2. Crawford, LF
3. Pedroia, 2B
4. Ortiz, DH
5. Gonzalez, 1B
6. Ross, RF
7. Middlebrooks, 3B
8. Salty/Shoppach, C
9. Aviles/Ciriaco, SS
This has the looks of a devastating lineup...your thoughts and ideas?
Lineup when Ortiz returns
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Lineup when Ortiz returns
posted at 8/7/2012 4:55 PM EDT
- redsox0426
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Re: Lineup when Ortiz returns
posted at 8/8/2012 12:22 AM EDT
- dannycater
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not that this matters, but we've been waiting for this guy's return for 20 games now. It's too late. -
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Re: Lineup when Ortiz returns
posted at 8/8/2012 8:06 AM EDT
- andrewmitch
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In Response to Re: Lineup when Ortiz returns:not that this matters, but we've been waiting for this guy's return for 20 games now. It's too late.
Posted by dannycater
Andrew Bailey, David Ortiz, Rich Hill, Dice K, John Lackey, Ryan Sweeney, and Daniel Bard are all due back in 4 to 6 weeks so I don't know what you're complaining about. We are only 4.5 GB of the 5th playoff spot and there is plenty of time. No need to panic. Wouldn't you rather have the Varisty Team back 100% healthy instead of risking an injury? Just relax!!!!!!!!! -
Re: Lineup when Ortiz returns
posted at 8/8/2012 8:36 AM EDT
- maxbialystock
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Could be awhile before he returns
Bobby V has used a lot of lineups, so don't count on a set lineup.
CC right now is especially hard to figure/place. This definitely ain't last year's model. He is hitting and usually hitting the ball hard, better than Ells or Pedey. But maybe he will regress, plus the elbow might act up. -
Re: Lineup when Ortiz returns
posted at 8/8/2012 9:21 AM EDT
- ADG
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What will it matter? -
Re: Lineup when Ortiz returns
posted at 8/8/2012 9:38 AM EDT
- ThefourBs
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In Response to Re: Lineup when Ortiz returns:What will it matter?
Posted by ADG
What does Lesters outing last night matter?
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Re: Lineup when Ortiz returns
posted at 8/8/2012 9:39 AM EDT
- moonslav59
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In Response to Re: Lineup when Ortiz returns:Sox runs scored when LH'er starts: 5.21 I've tracked every game log and have yet to see a fraction of a run scored. When you get past fangraphs, you will be in baseball junior high.
Posted by TrotterNixonSince you have said yo every you don't "bother to watch the games or need to ..." maybe you should just go back and "track our game logs" back to the last lefty we faced:8/3 5 runs in 6 IP vs Duensing (5 for whole game)The one before that...7/28 6 runs in 6 IP vs Sabathia (9 for whole game)Yes, I'd love to have a powerful RH'd clean-up hitter who can hit righties better than Ross, and field his position decently (RF? CF?), but our weakness vs LHPs is a myth.Go ahead and don't "pro-rate" Ross, look at his numbers this year: he's got an .855 OPS7 HRs and 30 RBIs in 200 ABs vs RHPs9 Hrs and 24 RBIs in 86 ABs vs LHPs5th out of our top 13 batters in road OPS.3rd out of top 13 batters in 2nd half OPS.1st out of top 13 batters in Late & Close OPS. (Clutch)He has a .977 OPS batting cleanup.I know you were against signing Ross for even $3M, but get over yourself, admit you were wrong, and give this guy his due.I know he's "the wrong color" for you, but he didn't go to college, so you should at least like this guy. -
Re: Lineup when Ortiz returns
posted at 8/8/2012 9:40 AM EDT
- Bill-806
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Your working to hard here !!! Big Papi will not be back this year.... Maybe, never !!! -
Re: Lineup when Ortiz returns
posted at 8/8/2012 9:44 AM EDT
- ThefourBs
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In Response to Re: Lineup when Ortiz returns:Your working to hard here !!! Big Papi will not be back this year.... Maybe, never !!!
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Re: Lineup when Ortiz returns
posted at 8/8/2012 9:45 AM EDT
- Bill-806
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In Response to Re: Lineup when Ortiz returns:In Response to Re: Lineup when Ortiz returns : Keep dreaming, Bill.Dreaming ???? Not really, just seeing things as they are, and embracing the truth/facts !!!!
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Re: Lineup when Ortiz returns
posted at 8/8/2012 9:57 AM EDT
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In Response to Re: Lineup when Ortiz returns:In Response to Re: Lineup when Ortiz returns : Dreaming ???? Not really, just seeing things as they are, and embracing the truth/facts !!!!
Posted by Bill-806
Ortiz puts on a show in BP
August, 7, 2012
Aug 7
5:33
PM ET
By Joe McDonald | ESPNBoston.com
BOSTON -- David Ortiz, on the disabled list since July 16 with a right Achilles strain, took batting practice on Tuesday at Fenway Park and crushed the ball, showing no ill effects from the injury.
Ortiz received an injection of Marcaine on Tuesday to help numb the area and reduce the swelling. He is scheduled for a full workout of all baseball activities on Wednesday.
“He says he feels as good now as he did before he got hurt," Red Sox manager Bobby Valentine said. "He’s taking it slow today and will have full activity tomorrow.”
Valentine said it would be Ortiz’s decision if he feels he would need a minor league rehab stint, but Ortiz said he’s hoping to be back in the lineup for the Red Sox's series against the Indians in Cleveland that begins Thursday
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Re: Lineup when Ortiz returns
posted at 8/8/2012 10:19 AM EDT
- dannycater
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If Ortiz returns, I go this way:RHP1. Ellsbury2. Crawford3. Ortiz4. AGON5. Pedroia6. Middlebrooks7. Saltalamachia8. Ross9. Ciriacov LHP1. Ellsbury2. Pedroia3. Middlebrooks4. Ortiz5. Ross6. AGON7. Shoppach8. CC9. Ciriaco -
Re: Lineup when Ortiz returns
posted at 8/8/2012 10:20 AM EDT
- dannycater
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Re: Lineup when Ortiz returns
posted at 8/8/2012 10:43 AM EDT
- ThefourBs
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In Response to Re: Lineup when Ortiz returns:If Ortiz returns, I go this way: RHP 1. Ellsbury 2. Crawford 3. Ortiz 4. AGON 5. Pedroia 6. Middlebrooks 7. Saltalamachia 8. Ross 9. Ciriaco v LHP 1. Ellsbury 2. Pedroia 3. Middlebrooks 4. Ortiz 5. Ross 6. AGON 7. Shoppach 8. CC 9. Ciriaco
Posted by dannycater
I like those lineups.
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Re: Lineup when Ortiz returns
posted at 8/8/2012 2:44 PM EDT
- pcmIV
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In Response to Re: Lineup when Ortiz returns:The Red Sox could have acquired Kemp and extended him. They could have acquired J. Upton.
Posted by TrotterNixon
They are both still on their respective teams and you haven't specified when the Red Sox could have gotten either of these guys and what they could have given up. This isn't fantasy baseball. -
Re: Lineup when Ortiz returns
posted at 8/8/2012 6:56 PM EDT
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Re: Lineup when Ortiz returns
posted at 8/9/2012 7:46 AM EDT
- pri360
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In Response to Re: Lineup when Ortiz returns:I've reported the stooge for calling me a criminal and a fascist. That said, federal policy is the very essence of fascism, which is very popular with those who use it as hate speech against people who don't support federal fascist policies.
Posted by TrotterNixonNo one cares. -
Re: Lineup when Ortiz returns
posted at 8/9/2012 7:51 AM EDT
- BosoxJoe5
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I love when Softy is clearly wrong he gets all annoyed and says something crazy. No doubt about the line up is going to get much better when Ortiz gets back. I really think when every is healthy this is the best line up in baseball. Ross and Shoppach really help out against lefties. It is just just a shame that the pitching is just that poor. -
Re: Lineup when Ortiz returns
posted at 8/9/2012 11:56 AM EDT
- moonslav59
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In Response to Re: Lineup when Ortiz returns:I've reported the stooge for calling me a criminal and a fascist. That said, federal policy is the very essence of fascism, which is very popular with those who use it as hate speech against people who don't support federal fascist policies.
Posted by TrotterNixonThis is too funny on so many levels, I don't know where to start.1) Once again, your lack of reading comprehension shines through. Nowhere did I call you a "criminal". I meerly said this:"Criminals, idiots and facists can and sometimes are famous, but maybe infamous would be a better term. "It's telling that you assumed I meant you were a criminal. As for being an idiot and a fascist, I think we all know the truth here.2) You speak of others turning you in to be censored, but now you are playing their game over much less of an egregious offense than several of your blatant personal attacks.3) And who signed "The Patriot Act"- fascism run amok? -
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