Lucchino and the low ball

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    Lucchino and the low ball

    He admitted they went to low and now Lester won't talk to them. He is a goner, Larry good call on the offer.

     
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    He admitted they went to low and now Lester won't talk to them. He is a goner, Larry good call on the offer.

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    Maybe Lester just can't take a joke. 

     
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    He admitted they went to low and now Lester won't talk to them. He is a goner, Larry good call on the offer.

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    I don't get the low ball offer they made him. It was disrespectful and insulting..especially considering the caliber of pitching Lester game them last season into the WS.

    Actually..Lester hasn't said that he won't talk to them. He has said that he won't engage in negotiations during the season unless he is assured they will be short. In other words...I guess he's not going to talk unless they make him a serious offer.

    The low ball offer is only going to either cost them more or make them lose Lester altogether.

     
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    He admitted they went to low and now Lester won't talk to them. He is a goner, Larry good call on the offer.




    Where does it say that? Boston comcast sport reported yesterday contract talks between Lester and the FO have resumed


    Shaughnessy: Lucchino admits Sox started low with Lester
     



    Will Jon Lester be a member of the Red Sox after this season? 


    The contract negotiations between the team and their ace have been a hot topic throughout the season. 


    Many eyebrows were raised when the team offered Lester what many considered to be a low-ball offer, and the discussions haven't gone very far since. 


    Red Sox President Larry Lucchino spoke to Dan Shaughnessy of the Boston Globe about the Lester negotiations.


    "What we did was throw a number out to get the negotiations started," said Lucchino. "We're certainly well aware that there would have to be significant improvement in that, but we expected a more concentrated and ongoing period of negotiations, which hasn't yet happened.


    On Sports Tonight, Dan Shaughnessy described how Lucchino "didn't back off" the low-ball narrative, and explained how the low offer may have doomed the team. 


    "Right now, it puts the onus on the team," said Shaughnessy. "They really almost have to get this done during the season, which is going to be a tough sell. Lester's only got like 12 starts left, why would he sign anything at this point?


    With the Red Sox ace staring free agency in the face, Bob Neumeier expects the Yankees to extend a monster offer to the left-hander.


    "Think of where their pitching stands right now," suggested Neumeier. "C.C. [Sabathia] could be done for the year, Tanaka's got a bad elbow, may have Tommy John, may not. Pineda's out, Nova's out, no farm system pitchers.


    "They already gave Tanaka 7 [years] for $155 [million] having never thrown a ball in big league baseball. The New York Yankees will come at Jon Lester and come at him hard."


     

     
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    He admitted they went to low and now Lester won't talk to them. He is a goner, Larry good call on the offer.

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    where does it say that?


     


    Will Jon Lester be a member of the Red Sox after this season? 

    The contract negotiations between the team and their ace have been a hot topic throughout the season. 

    Many eyebrows were raised when the team offered Lester what many considered to be a low-ball offer, and the discussions haven't gone very far since. 

    Red Sox President Larry Lucchino spoke to Dan Shaughnessy of the Boston Globe about the Lester negotiations.

    "What we did was throw a number out to get the negotiations started," said Lucchino. "We're certainly well aware that there would have to be significant improvement in that, but we expected a more concentrated and ongoing period of negotiations, which hasn't yet happened.

    On Sports Tonight, Dan Shaughnessy described how Lucchino "didn't back off" the low-ball narrative, and explained how the low offer may have doomed the team. 

    "Right now, it puts the onus on the team," said Shaughnessy. "They really almost have to get this done during the season, which is going to be a tough sell. Lester's only got like 12 starts left, why would he sign anything at this point?

    With the Red Sox ace staring free agency in the face, Bob Neumeier expects the Yankees to extend a monster offer to the left-hander.

    "Think of where their pitching stands right now," suggested Neumeier. "C.C. [Sabathia] could be done for the year, Tanaka's got a bad elbow, may have Tommy John, may not. Pineda's out, Nova's out, no farm system pitchers.

    "They already gave Tanaka 7 [years] for $155 [million] having never thrown a ball in big league baseball. The New York Yankees will come at Jon Lester and come at him hard."

     

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    I will go out on a limb and say if the Sox don't sign Lester before he actually hits free agency he will be gone.

     

     
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    He admitted they went to low and now Lester won't talk to them. He is a goner, Larry good call on the offer.

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    where does it say that?


     


    Will Jon Lester be a member of the Red Sox after this season? 

    The contract negotiations between the team and their ace have been a hot topic throughout the season. 

    Many eyebrows were raised when the team offered Lester what many considered to be a low-ball offer, and the discussions haven't gone very far since. 

    Red Sox President Larry Lucchino spoke to Dan Shaughnessy of the Boston Globe about the Lester negotiations.

    "What we did was throw a number out to get the negotiations started," said Lucchino. "We're certainly well aware that there would have to be significant improvement in that, but we expected a more concentrated and ongoing period of negotiations, which hasn't yet happened.

    On Sports Tonight, Dan Shaughnessy described how Lucchino "didn't back off" the low-ball narrative, and explained how the low offer may have doomed the team. 

    "Right now, it puts the onus on the team," said Shaughnessy. "They really almost have to get this done during the season, which is going to be a tough sell. Lester's only got like 12 starts left, why would he sign anything at this point?

    With the Red Sox ace staring free agency in the face, Bob Neumeier expects the Yankees to extend a monster offer to the left-hander.

    "Think of where their pitching stands right now," suggested Neumeier. "C.C. [Sabathia] could be done for the year, Tanaka's got a bad elbow, may have Tommy John, may not. Pineda's out, Nova's out, no farm system pitchers.

    "They already gave Tanaka 7 [years] for $155 [million] having never thrown a ball in big league baseball. The New York Yankees will come at Jon Lester and come at him hard."

     

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    I will go out on a limb and say if the Sox don't sign Lester before he actually hits free agency he will be gone.

     

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    Very strong possibility, missy. Boston Comcast sports reported yesterday "Lesters Representives  and the FO have resumed contract talks" so here's hoping.

     
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    He admitted they went to low and now Lester won't talk to them. He is a goner, Larry good call on the offer.

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    where does it say that?


     


    Will Jon Lester be a member of the Red Sox after this season? 

    The contract negotiations between the team and their ace have been a hot topic throughout the season. 

    Many eyebrows were raised when the team offered Lester what many considered to be a low-ball offer, and the discussions haven't gone very far since. 

    Red Sox President Larry Lucchino spoke to Dan Shaughnessy of the Boston Globe about the Lester negotiations.

    "What we did was throw a number out to get the negotiations started," said Lucchino. "We're certainly well aware that there would have to be significant improvement in that, but we expected a more concentrated and ongoing period of negotiations, which hasn't yet happened.

    On Sports Tonight, Dan Shaughnessy described how Lucchino "didn't back off" the low-ball narrative, and explained how the low offer may have doomed the team. 

    "Right now, it puts the onus on the team," said Shaughnessy. "They really almost have to get this done during the season, which is going to be a tough sell. Lester's only got like 12 starts left, why would he sign anything at this point?

    With the Red Sox ace staring free agency in the face, Bob Neumeier expects the Yankees to extend a monster offer to the left-hander.

    "Think of where their pitching stands right now," suggested Neumeier. "C.C. [Sabathia] could be done for the year, Tanaka's got a bad elbow, may have Tommy John, may not. Pineda's out, Nova's out, no farm system pitchers.

    "They already gave Tanaka 7 [years] for $155 [million] having never thrown a ball in big league baseball. The New York Yankees will come at Jon Lester and come at him hard."

     

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    I will go out on a limb and say if the Sox don't sign Lester before he actually hits free agency he will be gone.

     

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    Very strong possibility, missy. Boston Comcast sports reported yesterday "Lesters Representives  and the FO have resumed contract talks" so here's hoping.

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    I heard that as well... I hope they work it out. I would hate to see Lester in another uniform!!

     
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    Told everyone Larry Luchinno is the real GM on this team. Larry threw out a number to get the negotiations going. He is also the one who alienated Mark Teixeira in December 2008 on those negotiations becoming arrogant when there was another bidder.  Remember in 2012 he said the Sox were going to pick up a starter. Then at the trade deadline Larry said, "Ben was empowered to do something big". I guess Greg Breslowwas big in Larry's mind. Larry speak with forked tongue !


    What did you expect on that Larry for him to take your first offer. How about when your contract is up we offer you 13,000 a year to "throw out a number to get the negotiations going". You basically insulted the guy and now he is not going to give you any break. If he leaves not only does it hurt the Red Sox but it makes the FO look bad.

     
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    He admitted they went to low and now Lester won't talk to them. He is a goner, Larry good call on the offer.

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    Money talks. And that sum will depend on how much Lester likes (or dislikes) the atmosphere. That aura is a lot different today than it was just a week or two ago. At that time, I would have siad, "who wants to play here, period?". Now, obviously, that has changed. The Cardiac Kids are on the field with him!

     
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    phillies had to do this with Cole Hammels.  ended up paying alot more than the original offer because of it.
    not so good when you are mentioned in the same breath as rubin ammaro.....

     

    other names i have posted under:  none

     
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    You don't throw a number like that out the way Starters, were getting extended, and the signing of Tanaka, in the Off-Season.

     
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    Should have extended Koji 1 year too, just for the fact it is easier to Trade a Player with at least 1 year team control.

     
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     Can't put a dollar amount on that, Jon 


     


    Retweeted by Pete Abraham Jon Lester @JLester31  ·  22m
    Appreciate all the love y'all, means a lot! Great team win yesterday, Carpy came up big, and walking off at Fenway never gets old


     


     


     

     
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    So between this and the Bobby Valentine hire, why does Lucchino still have a job?

     

     
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    Haven't any of you ever bought a house?  You have a price in mind, but you don't offer that immediately, you go below that, the other party counters, and you meet in the middle somewhere (or you don't).  Is there any indication the the Lester camp has ever countered?

     

    Lucchino is a scum bucket, but the low-ball is negotiation 101.

     
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    LET HIM GO....SO-BE-IT  !!!  LONG TERM CONTRACTS & BIG $$$$$$$$ FOR THE BACK 9 IS JUST SOOOO STUPID.....   THE SAME PEOPLE THAT SAY GIVE HIM THE $$$ WILL COMPLAIN ABOUT THE COST TO GO TO FENWAY.............. COGGLINS LAW,  "THERE COES A TIME WHEN TOO MUCH FOR TOO LONG DOES NOT COMPUTE"  !!!

     
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    So between this and the Bobby Valentine hire, why does Lucchino still have a job? 

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    The 3 rings?

     

     
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     Can't put a dollar amount on that, Jon 

     

     

     

    Retweeted by Pete Abraham Jon Lester @JLester31  ·  22m
    Appreciate all the love y'all, means a lot! Great team win yesterday, Carpy came up big, and walking off at Fenway never gets old

     

     

     

     

     

     

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    J-Bay does that 31-22m, mean 22 million will get it done.

     
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    Haven't any of you ever bought a house?  You have a price in mind, but you don't offer that immediately, you go below that, the other party counters, and you meet in the middle somewhere (or you don't).  Is there any indication the the Lester camp has ever countered?


     


    Lucchino is a scum bucket, but the low-ball is negotiation 101.




    That's why their is Free Agency. Lester had the leverage, because last Off Seasons signings. Sox did not do their homework.

     
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     Can't put a dollar amount on that, Jon 


    Retweeted by Pete Abraham Jon Lester @JLester31  ·  22m
    Appreciate all the love y'all, means a lot! Great team win yesterday, Carpy came up big, and walking off at Fenway never gets old



    J-Bay does that 31-22m, mean 22 million will get it done.



    Bobby, that twitter talk....JLester31 is his twitter handle, and 22m is 22 minutes, how long ago it was tweeted.

     
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     Can't put a dollar amount on that, Jon 

     

    Retweeted by Pete Abraham Jon Lester @JLester31  ·  22m
    Appreciate all the love y'all, means a lot! Great team win yesterday, Carpy came up big, and walking off at Fenway never gets old

     


    J-Bay does that 31-22m, mean 22 million will get it done.

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    Bobby, that twitter talk....JLester31 is his twitter handle, and 22m is 22 minutes, how long ago it was tweeted.

     

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    I know, was just having fun. hahahaha

     
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    Jon made a mistake by mentioning the home town discount right up front. No doubt that caused management to try the low ball offer. I am pretty sure Jon would like to stay in Boston. I am also pretty sure he regrets talking about the discount. A deal can still get done if both sides want to do it. Will Lester's performance decline in the contract years? We don't know the answer to that. Those are the risks you take. One thing is certain. If the Sox don't give him what he wants, someone else will.   

    Stabbed by Foulke.

     
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    I listen to Rob Dibble going into work and he said the Sox blew it. He said another interesting point, not many Free Agent Pitchers will want to go to the Sox because of weak line-up, Pitchers will look at teams before they sign, what kind of Offense they have. Lester wanted to stay.

     
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    I listen to Rob Dibble going into work and he said the Sox blew it. He said another interesting point, not many Free Agent Pitchers will want to go to the Sox because of weak line-up, Pitchers will look at teams before they sign, what kind of Offense they have. Lester wanted to stay.

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    If they blew it, bobby I doubt the two sides would still be talkng. Time will tell. I'm hoping it's did and done, over the all star break.

     
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    After he said hometown discount this Contract should have been done in a week. Its costs them more everyday. With Tanaka's injury he really has the leverage. You cant predict injuries even other teams injuries.

     

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