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Marlins sign 33 year old Buehrle for 4 years and 14.5 million a year
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Marlins sign 33 year old Buehrle for 4 years and 14.5 million a year
posted at 12/7/2011 8:15 PM EST
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Re: Marlins sign 33 year old Buehrle for 4 years and 14.5 million a year
posted at 12/7/2011 8:25 PM EST
With Beckett's and Lackey's Contracts, the Red Sox do not need another exhorbitant Contract for a pitcher who might not be around at the end. From the Contracts the Marlins have been signing with Reyes, Bell and Buerhle and the offer the team made to Albert Pujols, the State of Florida should investigate the building of the new Ballpark and MLB all the Revenue Sharing the Marlins have been salting away?l -
Re: Marlins sign 33 year old Buehrle for 4 years and 14.5 million a year
posted at 12/7/2011 8:28 PM EST
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Re: Marlins sign 33 year old Buehrle for 4 years and 14.5 million a year
posted at 12/7/2011 8:32 PM EST
So much for him wanting to stay "close to home".These pitcher contracts are way overboard. Looks like we will have to trade or go without and/or pray that Taz/Doub/Weil/Mill... come through. -
Re: Marlins sign 33 year old Buehrle for 4 years and 14.5 million a year
posted at 12/7/2011 8:44 PM EST
Well he probably is worth closer to 13 million based on the million per win rule of thumb but he is going to give 200+ innings and keep them in ball games. -
Re: Marlins sign 33 year old Buehrle for 4 years and 14.5 million a year
posted at 12/7/2011 8:59 PM EST
Ok -
Re: Marlins sign 33 year old Buehrle for 4 years and 14.5 million a year
posted at 12/7/2011 9:04 PM EST
Buerle seems like a better deal than Lackluster, I am jealous of the Marlins now. -
Re: Marlins sign 33 year old Buehrle for 4 years and 14.5 million a year
posted at 12/7/2011 9:07 PM EST
He got more than a reasonable deal. No wonder he took it right away. They overpaid. That last year is going to feel mighty painful. -
Re: Marlins sign 33 year old Buehrle for 4 years and 14.5 million a year
posted at 12/7/2011 9:10 PM EST
He may be okay in the NL.. it cetainly be his last real contract in the majors. -
Re: Marlins sign 33 year old Buehrle for 4 years and 14.5 million a year
posted at 12/7/2011 9:12 PM EST
Valentine said the pitching coach was most important hire and they would take their time to get it right.
Much more important hire than a 2nd tier MLB FA. -
Re: Marlins sign 33 year old Buehrle for 4 years and 14.5 million a year
posted at 12/7/2011 10:07 PM EST
In Response to Re: Marlins sign 33 year old Buehrle for 4 years and 14.5 million a year:Buerle seems like a better deal than Lackluster, I am jealous of the Marlins now.
Posted by BurritoT
Yes he does. -
Re: Marlins sign 33 year old Buehrle for 4 years and 14.5 million a year
posted at 12/7/2011 10:26 PM EST
In Response to Re: Marlins sign 33 year old Buehrle for 4 years and 14.5 million a year:With Beckett's and Lackey's Contracts, the Red Sox do not need another exhorbitant Contract for a pitcher who might not be around at the end. From the Contracts the Marlins have been signing with Reyes, Bell and Buerhle and the offer the team made to Albert Pujols, the State of Florida should investigate the building of the new Ballpark and MLB all the Revenue Sharing the Marlins have been salting away?l
Posted by rgmfick
Drug lords, cocaine. These 'aint the days of Don Johnson and Philip Michael Thomas you know..... -
Re: Marlins sign 33 year old Buehrle for 4 years and 14.5 million a year
posted at 12/7/2011 11:09 PM EST
In Response to Re: Marlins sign 33 year old Buehrle for 4 years and 14.5 million a year:With Beckett's and Lackey's Contracts, the Red Sox do not need another exhorbitant Contract for a pitcher who might not be around at the end. From the Contracts the Marlins have been signing with Reyes, Bell and Buerhle and the offer the team made to Albert Pujols, the State of Florida should investigate the building of the new Ballpark and MLB all the Revenue Sharing the Marlins have been salting away?l
Posted by rgmfick
A. the new ballpark was paid with a hotel bed tax, aka...tourist money that was already previously set aside for the purpose of bringing in entertainment type revenues which a baseball stadium and all that comes with one would include
B. the SEC is investigating the city of miami in the case that they gave out a sweet deal when when you really look at the numbers, the marlins are actually paying much more than most teams pay in their stadium deals
C. many of the city managers who have been since recalled realize, as do i that a world class baseball team along with a world class team is a huge strength to a city(as i would expect many bostonians to be able to respect) and what the city of miami and jeff loria is trying to accomplish should be commended if anything
D. no, im not david samson or jeff conine
E. my cousin made the pirates! -
Re: Marlins sign 33 year old Buehrle for 4 years and 14.5 million a year
posted at 12/7/2011 11:11 PM EST
This shows that Sox fans really have no idea of the market value of starting pitchers...1-3 mil for a year won't get anything but Wake. The 1st tier pitching is basically out of reach for the Sox except via a trade and the receiving team won't take Sox castoffs...they will want top level prospects for starting pitching. -
Re: Marlins sign 33 year old Buehrle for 4 years and 14.5 million a year
posted at 12/7/2011 11:12 PM EST
Florida will remain a lousy baseball market, and a terrible rip-off for taxpayers. The new stadium buzz will have a life like a bottle rocket. -
Re: Marlins sign 33 year old Buehrle for 4 years and 14.5 million a year
posted at 12/7/2011 11:19 PM EST
Have a look at what starting pitchers have signed for thus far...Sabathia $122M/5Buehrle $58M/4Wainwright $21M/2Dempster $14M/1Harang $12M/2Capuano $10M/2B.Chen $9M/2Bedard $4.5M/1C. Wang $4M/1F.Garcia $4M/1Some of these guys never truly hit the "open market", but of the ones who did, are there any here worth more to the Sox than what they signed for?Here's the RPs who have signed:Papelbon $50M/4H. Bell $27M/3Valverde $9M/1Nathan $14.75M/2F.Franc $12M/2Affeldt $5M/1M. Capps $4.75M/1JLopez $8.5M/2Frasor $3.75M/1Rauch $3.5M/1Farnswrth $3.3M/1Tatevama $1M/1Minor deals:A. Russell & B. Sanchez -
Re: Marlins sign 33 year old Buehrle for 4 years and 14.5 million a year
posted at 12/7/2011 11:23 PM EST
In Response to Re: Marlins sign 33 year old Buehrle for 4 years and 14.5 million a year:Florida will remain a lousy baseball market, and a terrible rip-off for taxpayers. The new stadium buzz will have a life like a bottle rocket.
Posted by hankwilliams
its amazing what winning will do....philly is older and howard is out for the 1st half of the year and the braves still lack hitting and heyward still isnt healthy and chipper aint getting younger....unless you think the mets or nats have enough to compete?
winning sells...ask ted williams and a half empty fenway -
Re: Marlins sign 33 year old Buehrle for 4 years and 14.5 million a year
posted at 12/7/2011 11:26 PM EST
You obviously forgot the winning 1997 and 2003 Marlins and a lot of empty seats. Winning doesn't matter in a lousy market that creates a lousy fish brand. I expect no sellouts if this soon to be fire sold latest crop of players makes the post season. -
Re: Marlins sign 33 year old Buehrle for 4 years and 14.5 million a year
posted at 12/7/2011 11:33 PM EST
In Response to Re: Marlins sign 33 year old Buehrle for 4 years and 14.5 million a year:You obviously forgot the winning 1997 and 2003 Marlins and a lot of empty seats. Winning doesn't matter in a lousy market that creates a lousy fish brand. I expect no sellouts if this soon to be fire sold latest crop of players makes the post season.
Posted by hankwilliams
the marlins drew close to 3 million their first year and a lot of those empty seats were do to the fact they played in a 70,000 seat football stadium!
ok..well lets look at the oklahoma city thunder...not a great market but have a great following and make the city a lot of money...and thats NBA basketball and we arent talking about nearly the potential revenue streams that the marlins have at the finger tips...everyone said they were cheap...they were just waiting for the right time to spend their money -
Re: Marlins sign 33 year old Buehrle for 4 years and 14.5 million a year
posted at 12/7/2011 11:39 PM EST
The Marlins seem like they want to win.
Wish we had signed Harang. -
Re: Marlins sign 33 year old Buehrle for 4 years and 14.5 million a year
posted at 12/7/2011 11:45 PM EST
Harang in the NL in a cavern of a ballpark is a smokescreen.
He gets pummelled in the AL East. -
Re: Marlins sign 33 year old Buehrle for 4 years and 14.5 million a year
posted at 12/7/2011 11:46 PM EST
They will sell tickets if they have a stadium and a team to give there money to. The Sox would have issues selling out if they played in Foxboro Stadium every night. -
Re: Marlins sign 33 year old Buehrle for 4 years and 14.5 million a year
posted at 12/8/2011 12:32 AM EST
they were just waiting for the right time to spend their money
No, they will be looking for the usual time to sell the debts. -
Re: Marlins sign 33 year old Buehrle for 4 years and 14.5 million a year
posted at 12/8/2011 12:55 AM EST
Wasn't this the team you said was the "model for small markets" in your argument with me over me saying the same thing about the Rays?