Matt Thorton to the Yankees

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    In response to pinstripezac35's comment:

    In response to slasher9's comment:

    SAY GOODBYE TO STAYING UNDER THE $189mm THRESHHOLD!  HAHAHAHAHAAHA




    must B one of them nervous laughs

    why would a sox fan find that funny



    I can't speak fir the other poster, but I would like to see the yanks stay over the tax.  They are due a hardcore spendimg year.  With Sherzer on the market next year, I would want to make it as hard of a financial decision for the yanks as possible.  That and I want the price of tanaka to jack up as well.  If from small miracle the yanks get ARod suspended for the year, it will get them under the luxury tax.  If they do that, they will have the spare cash to trade him and eat contract and sign an ace or two on the market next year.  That's just my take... even though I wouldn't have the dr. Evil laugh after my post.

     
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    Report: Yankees sign Thornton for 2-yrs, $7MM

    The Yankees have agreed to a 2-year, $7 million deal with free agent lefty reliever Matt Thornton.

    Thorton, 37, is coming off a 3.74 ERA and 30/15 K/BB ratio over 47 1/3 innings this past season between the White Sox and Red Sox. He's a cost-effective replacement for Boone Logan, who suckered the Rockies into paying him $16.5 million over three years. Thornton, at this point in his career, is a decent middle-inning relief option.



    Good.

     
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    Not only are they not going to be under the 189 threshold , but they are going to be the oldest team in MLB! Ellsbury was their youngest key addition and he will be 31 this year!!! This 70 win team should keep the Yankees fans happy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




    oh yeah still playing the age card

    how many yrs is this in a row

    nothing changes even though 2 of the oldest

    mo & andy retired this yr

    speaking of which how much did their age hurt the yanks last yr

     

    how did being to old hurt these old timers last yr when they were injured

     


    Andrew Marchand 2m
    Michael Pineda only turns 25 next month. Manny Banuelos is just 22. Those two are probably more important than any signings this offseason



    On the defensive much these days, zac?  You're sounding like a Red Sox fan of a couple of seasons ago singing the praises of Ryan Kalish and Josh Reddick.  

    no idea what mean  by defensive sheriff

    of course I'm sticking up 4 my team

    I'm thinking you missed my point

    I was responding to the age thing

    why does RSN bring it up so often

    if it 's because of injuries my point was young studs get hurt all the time

     



    I realize that Yankee fans are not upset about going over the luxury tax limit, but how many are jumping for joy about the Matt Thornton signing? 

    who jumps for joy over middle relief ?

    the guy is replacing boone

    Andy McCullough 14m
    Matt Thornton against LHH from 2011 to 2013: .640 OPS, .282 wOBA.

      Boone Logan against LHH from 2011 to 2013: .704 OPS, 305 wOBA.

     
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    Re: Matt Thorton to the Yankees

    In response to pinstripezac35's comment:

    In response to slasher9's comment:

    In response to pinstripezac35's comment:

    In response to slasher9's comment:

    SAY GOODBYE TO STAYING UNDER THE $189mm THRESHHOLD!  HAHAHAHAHAAHA




    must B one of them nervous laughs

    why would a sox fan find that funny




    because it is funny. 

    ok I just find it strange that some thing that makes nyy fans very happy

    would make U happy 2

     

    your ownership tells you one thing and then does the complete opposite.

    that's not even close 2 true

    but that's what we all expect from a guy called N C Slash

     

     

      they spending obscene money but let the best position playerin recent history to wear pinstripes walk out the door. 

    U still playing that card

    we both know if nyy signed cano the parrots would be out in full force

     

    no luxury tax reset for you!!!The Yankees, who have fielded a payroll in excess of $195 million for nine consecutive years, would like to keep their payroll for next season below $189 million, which would keep them under the luxury tax and reset their tax rate to the lowest level so that they'd pay less in taxes if they exceed the threshold in future years. 


    LOL

    only in RSN do the fans get that warm tingling feeling down their leg

    when the owner saves money

    do U really think many in yankee universe R upset

    that the owners might go over the 189

    LMAO



    Pinstripezac still happy the Yanks didn't sign Cano because he says Red Sox fans would laugh about it. Gotta luv it. That's the most ridiculous reason to be happy about losing your best player I've ever heard. He's willing to say anything to defend his team.

    While he loves throwing out the "no cred" label to Sox fans, in reality he's NOCREDZAC.

     
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    speaking of which how much did their age hurt the yanks last yr

     

    how did being to old hurt these old timers last yr when they were injured

     


    Andrew Marchand 2m
    Michael Pineda only turns 25 next month. Manny Banuelos is just 22. Those two are probably more important than any signings this offseason



    ^LOLOLOL! See, the Yankees do have some young players......they just have been out for two years.



    Good one.

     
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    In response to RSF4Life234's comment:

    In response to pinstripezac35's comment:

    In response to slasher9's comment:

    SAY GOODBYE TO STAYING UNDER THE $189mm THRESHHOLD!  HAHAHAHAHAAHA




    must B one of them nervous laughs

    why would a sox fan find that funny



    The yankees were far better when they were developing their own players. Since they have been spending crazy they have won a single series. Which model works better?



    I think there should be an extra penalty for going over the luxury tax limit so many years. It shouldn't be a toss up every year for them. Especially considering they don't seem to be trying to make a solid limit you can't go over. This luxury tax is a luxury for a team that doesn't care about money, and is used just to get other teams to shut up about their spending.

     
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    Pinstripezac still happy the Yanks didn't sign Cano because he says Red Sox fans would laugh about it. Gotta luv it. That's the most ridiculous reason to be happy about losing your best player I've ever heard. He's willing to say anything to defend his team.

    While he loves throwing out the "no cred" label to Sox fans, in reality he's ZAC.

     


    NOCREDKST

    how bout U show us where I said I was happy about it

    I never did

    not signing him at that price needs no defense

    only the hypocrites that knock the yanks 4 not signing him do

     

     

     
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    Pinstripezac still happy the Yanks didn't sign Cano because he says Red Sox fans would laugh about it. Gotta luv it. That's the most ridiculous reason to be happy about losing your best player I've ever heard. He's willing to say anything to defend his team.

    While he loves throwing out the "no cred" label to Sox fans, in reality he's ZAC.

     


    NOCREDKST

    how bout U show us where I said I was happy about it

    I never did

    not signing him at that price needs no defense

    only the hypocrites that knock the yanks 4 not signing him do

     

     



    Your no cred label is a joke, NOCREDZAC. You are the one with no credibility. It just became more apparent this season. I always knew.

    You said if they signed Cano, Red Sox fans would be all over it. THAT's the reason you constantly give that you're happy it didn't happen. And you've given that reason on multiple threads, including this one. LOL

    Now you're saying that price matters to you? Why? You're all over this thread saying you LOVE when the Yankees go over the luxury tax. Is it when the money is used to sign their BEST PLAYER that you don't want it to happen, and when they schelp any throwaways from other teams that you do? LMAO

     
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    not signing him at that price needs no defense

     

     




    I agree zac.  but then they overpaid for mccann.  but then they overpaid for ellsbury.  but then they overpaid for beltran.  that is what makes it funny.  dont overpay for the homegrown, tried-n-true, best position player available....but then overpay for others.  the WAR's are almost a wash.  and you are spending ~ $50MM more.....

     
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    not signing him at that price needs no defense

     

     

     




    I agree zac.  but then they overpaid for mccann.  but then they overpaid for ellsbury.  but then they overpaid for beltran.  that is what makes it funny.  dont overpay for the homegrown, tried-n-true, best position player available....but then overpay for others.  the WAR's are almost a wash.  and you are spending ~ $50MM more.....

     



    That's the way NOCREDZAC feels about the situation. It makes perfect sense to him. Gotta laugh. lol

     
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    Re: Matt Thorton to the Yankees

    In response to pinstripezac35's comment:

    In response to Sheriff-Rojas' comment:

     

    In response to pinstripezac35's comment:

    In response to sportsbozo1's comment:

    Not only are they not going to be under the 189 threshold , but they are going to be the oldest team in MLB! Ellsbury was their youngest key addition and he will be 31 this year!!! This 70 win team should keep the Yankees fans happy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

     




    oh yeah still playing the age card

     

    how many yrs is this in a row

    nothing changes even though 2 of the oldest

    mo & andy retired this yr

    speaking of which how much did their age hurt the yanks last yr

     

    how did being to old hurt these old timers last yr when they were injured

     


    Andrew Marchand 2m
    Michael Pineda only turns 25 next month. Manny Banuelos is just 22. Those two are probably more important than any signings this offseason



    On the defensive much these days, zac?  You're sounding like a Red Sox fan of a couple of seasons ago singing the praises of Ryan Kalish and Josh Reddick.  

    no idea what mean  by defensive sheriff

    of course I'm sticking up 4 my team

    I'm thinking you missed my point

    I was responding to the age thing

    why does RSN bring it up so often

    if it 's because of injuries my point was young studs get hurt all the time

     



    I realize that Yankee fans are not upset about going over the luxury tax limit, but how many are jumping for joy about the Matt Thornton signing? 

    who jumps for joy over middle relief ?

    the guy is replacing boone

    Andy McCullough 14m
    Matt Thornton against LHH from 2011 to 2013: .640 OPS, .282 wOBA.

      Boone Logan against LHH from 2011 to 2013: .704 OPS, 305 wOBA.




    Boone Logan    2013 WHIP 1.179   SO/BB 3.85

    Matt Thorton    2013 WHIP  1.761   SO/BB 1.80

     

    Enjoy...

    I'm pretty sure I will.

                          

     
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    who jumps for joy over middle relief ?

    the guy is replacing boone

    Andy McCullough 14m
    Matt Thornton against LHH from 2011 to 2013: .640 OPS, .282 wOBA.

      Boone Logan against LHH from 2011 to 2013: .704 OPS, 305 wOBA.

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    Boone Logan    2013 WHIP 1.179   SO/BB 3.85

    Matt Thorton    2013 WHIP  1.761   SO/BB 1.80

     

    Enjoy...

    I'm pretty sure I will.

                          

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    can't argue with those stats 4B's

    but I can question the wisdon of judging a midle reliever by 1 yr

     

    after  Mike Axisa knocked the roberts signing he went on to say

    2. Thornton, on the other hand, is a real nice pickup as long as Joe Girardi uses him as a true lefty specialist and doesn’t force him out there against righties. He was one of the most dominant relievers in baseball once upon a time but that is no longer the case. Thornton has been better than Boone Logan against same-side hitters these last few years (doesn’t strike out as many but also gives up fewer extra-base hits) and the Yankees landed him for less than half the total cost. Heck, they got him for less than J.P. Howell (two years, $11.5M). Everyone wants a lefty reliever who can handle both lefties and righties, but there aren’t many of those guys around. As long as Girardi keeps him away from righties, Thornton should be very useful.

     
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    not signing him at that price needs no defense

     

     

     




    I agree zac.  but then they overpaid for mccann.  but then they overpaid for ellsbury.  but then they overpaid for beltran.  that is what makes it funny.  dont overpay for the homegrown, tried-n-true, best position player available....but then overpay for others.  the WAR's are almost a wash.  and you are spending ~ $50MM more.....

     




    I suppose one can call 99% of FA signings an over pay

    doesn't make it true

    it's just the cost of doing bussiness in the FA world

    comparing maccann dollars with canos has no merit

    and what do you think seatle offered ells

    I heard different things  1 being 9yrs

     
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    Re: Matt Thorton to the Yankees

    In response to LagunaJose's comment:

    Yankees will be paying a 50 percent penalty this year on everything over the $189 mi, level.




    that is going to hurt even them............Yanks need to go back to developing farm system.......pattern now is not going to work long term for them.......

     
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    Matt Thornton against LHH from 2011 to 2013: .640 OPS, .282 wOBA.

      Boone Logan against LHH from 2011 to 2013: .704 OPS, 305 wOBA.

    [/QUOTE]

    Matt Thornton 37 Years Old against RHH; 333 Avg, 423 OBP, 827 OPS

     Total:  285 Avg, 350 OBP, 738 OPS

    Day Games:  1.89 ERA

    Night Games:  5.04 ERA

     

    Boone Logan 29 Years Old against RHH; 254 Avg, 319 OBP, 780 OPS

      Total:  235 Avg, 295 OBP, 709 OPS

    Day Games:  4.86 ERA

    Night Games:  2.01 ERA

     

    Said it before and I will say it again, Boone Logan > Matt Thornton and this is a downgrade for them

     
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    Re: Matt Thorton to the Yankees

    In response to pinstripezac35's comment:

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    who jumps for joy over middle relief ?

    the guy is replacing boone

    Andy McCullough 14m
    Matt Thornton against LHH from 2011 to 2013: .640 OPS, .282 wOBA.

      Boone Logan against LHH from 2011 to 2013: .704 OPS, 305 wOBA.

    xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx


    Boone Logan    2013 WHIP 1.179   SO/BB 3.85

    Matt Thorton    2013 WHIP  1.761   SO/BB 1.80

     

    Enjoy...

    I'm pretty sure I will.

                          




    can't argue with those stats 4B's

    but I can question the wisdon of judging a midle reliever by 1 yr

     

    after  Mike Axisa knocked the roberts signing he went on to say

    2. Thornton, on the other hand, is a real nice pickup as long as Joe Girardi uses him as a true lefty specialist and doesn’t force him out there against righties. He was one of the most dominant relievers in baseball once upon a time but that is no longer the case. Thornton has been better than Boone Logan against same-side hitters these last few years (doesn’t strike out as many but also gives up fewer extra-base hits) and the Yankees landed him for less than half the total cost. Heck, they got him for less than J.P. Howell (two years, $11.5M). Everyone wants a lefty reliever who can handle both lefties and righties, but there aren’t many of those guys around. As long as Girardi keeps him away from righties, Thornton should be very useful.




    Well, if Mikey said it, it must true.

    Useful, maybe...

    As good as Logan? Nope.

 
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    Didn't want to overpay for Boone Logan, so they overpay for Matt Thornton? Brilliant.

     
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    This signing is 'only' 2 years, so I guess the Yanks used some restraint.

     

    However, I admit its been very enjoyable to watch the Yankees continue to shoot themselves in the foot for 2015 and beyond.  And for what in 2014 exactly?

     

    Even outside LT, the opportunity costs keep piling up.

     

    This is great news for every other team out there.  Knee-jerking is exactly what the Yankees need to keep on doing and in Yankee management world, this is what the fans want.

     

    Just don't tell them they're confusing just which 'fans' they are making happy!Wink

     
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    Yankees will be paying a 50 percent penalty this year on everything over the $189 mi, level.



    They better start changing those penalties from money to something that actually matters to them. I don't think they'd care if it was 100%.

     
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