Maybe, we are just not as good as we think we are ??????

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    Maybe, we are just not as good as we think we are ??????

    This is why you just do not give "TWILIGHT PLAYERS" long term, extensions, & big $$$$$$.......  Will come back to "bite" everytime !!!

     
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    This is why you just do not give "TWILIGHT PLAYERS" long term, extensions, & big $$$$$$.......  Will come back to "bite" everytime !!!

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    Bill, I have no idea how your post relates remotely to the topic of your thread.

     
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    This is why you just do not give "TWILIGHT PLAYERS" long term, extensions, & big $$$$$$.......  Will come back to "bite" everytime !!!

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    Bill, I have no idea how your post relates remotely to the topic of your thread.

    [/QUOTE]Sorry Pumpsie, perhaps I was not CLEAR.......   13mil Victorino ?? 15mil+extension PAPI ?? Gomes 9+mil ???  Talk of Lester 20MIL+ ????  We are playing like bar room softball on a Sunday morning !!!   I know it's early.  But as DAD would say.............  "SON, it's later than you think" !!!


     
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    This is why you just do not give "TWILIGHT PLAYERS" long term, extensions, & big $$$$$$.......  Will come back to "bite" everytime !!!

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    Maybe it's just 10 games into the season.

     
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    This is why you just do not give "TWILIGHT PLAYERS" long term, extensions, & big $$$$$$.......  Will come back to "bite" everytime !!!

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    Maybe it's just 10 games into the season.

    [/QUOTE]I think, 12 ???


     
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    This is why you just do not give "TWILIGHT PLAYERS" long term, extensions, & big $$$$$$.......  Will come back to "bite" everytime !!!

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    Maybe it's just 10 games into the season.

    [/QUOTE]I think, 12 ???


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    I said maybe.

    Then again, maybe not.

     

     

     
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    This is why you just do not give "TWILIGHT PLAYERS" long term, extensions, & big $$$$$$.......  Will come back to "bite" everytime !!!

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    Bill, I have no idea how your post relates remotely to the topic of your thread.

    [/QUOTE]Sorry Pumpsie, perhaps I was not CLEAR.......   13mil Victorino ?? 15mil+extension PAPI ?? Gomes 9+mil ???  Talk of Lester 20MIL+ ????  We are playing like bar room softball on a Sunday morning !!!   I know it's early.  But as DAD would say.............  "SON, it's later than you think" !!!


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    So in your view "long term" means three years with two remaining? Thats how long Vic's contract is. Did he not contribute enough to the team last year? Papi was extended for what-one more year? And Gomes' contract expires at the end of this year. So where exactly is the long term part of your statement? Lester's extension is just talk right now. So which "twilight players" have been given "long term extensions and big $$"? Be specific, and use only currently players signed under those conditions. Or admit that your opening statement was in error.

     
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    This is why you just do not give "TWILIGHT PLAYERS" long term, extensions, & big $$$$$$.......  Will come back to "bite" everytime !!!

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    Bill, I have no idea how your post relates remotely to the topic of your thread.

    [/QUOTE]Sorry Pumpsie, perhaps I was not CLEAR.......   13mil Victorino ?? 15mil+extension PAPI ?? Gomes 9+mil ???  Talk of Lester 20MIL+ ????  We are playing like bar room softball on a Sunday morning !!!   I know it's early.  But as DAD would say.............  "SON, it's later than you think" !!!


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    So in your view "long term" means three years with two remaining? Thats how long Vic's contract is. Did he not contribute enough to the team last year? Papi was extended for what-one more year? And Gomes' contract expires at the end of this year. So where exactly is the long term part of your statement? Lester's extension is just talk right now. So which "twilight players" have been given "long term extensions and big $$"? Be specific, and use only currently players signed under those conditions. Or admit that your opening statement was in error.

    [/QUOTE]Im just saying that so far we look like a "far cry" of what we were from September-October 2013 !!!


     
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    This is why you just do not give "TWILIGHT PLAYERS" long term, extensions, & big $$$$$$.......  Will come back to "bite" everytime !!!

     



    As I have been saying since losing both Drew and Ellsbury while keeping Middy and our original LF in place "WE ARE NOT AND WON'T BE" as good as last season.  Sizemore could easily make up for the loss of Jacoby if he stays healthy but he needs to eventually play every day or close to it as does Shane.  If not our OF is pretty horrible which is why JBJ needs to mature quickly if possible.

    Those who knock AJ?  Don't because Salty will end up hitting less with a lot more mental/throwing issues so get over the guy.  Put the blame where the blame belongs, along with top players like Pede and David who are also struggling.  Once we finally decide who plays LF, SS and 3B long term while we wait for Vasquez and Swihart to take over the catching duties we are what we are.  Weak defensively with very little power and as I said in ST the run production will be less than last season.  Same goes for our young pitching, we can talk all we want about how good someone may be but that does very little for us today so we probably shouldn't trade a starter until things change.

     
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    This is why you just do not give "TWILIGHT PLAYERS" long term, extensions, & big $$$$$$.......  Will come back to "bite" everytime !!!

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    Bill, I have no idea how your post relates remotely to the topic of your thread.

    [/QUOTE]Sorry Pumpsie, perhaps I was not CLEAR.......   13mil Victorino ?? 15mil+extension PAPI ?? Gomes 9+mil ???  Talk of Lester 20MIL+ ????  We are playing like bar room softball on a Sunday morning !!!   I know it's early.  But as DAD would say.............  "SON, it's later than you think" !!!


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    So in your view "long term" means three years with two remaining? Thats how long Vic's contract is. Did he not contribute enough to the team last year? Papi was extended for what-one more year? And Gomes' contract expires at the end of this year. So where exactly is the long term part of your statement? Lester's extension is just talk right now. So which "twilight players" have been given "long term extensions and big $$"? Be specific, and use only currently players signed under those conditions. Or admit that your opening statement was in error.

    [/QUOTE]Im just saying that so far we look like a "far cry" of what we were from September-October 2013 !!!


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    I am not debating that. The team is not playing well, no doubt. But your thread title was about signing guys in their twilight years to LONG TERM contracts for big bucks. Who has a LONG TERM contract for big bucks? Answer: no one.

     
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    "This is why you just do not give "TWILIGHT PLAYERS" long term, extensions, & big $$$$$$.......  Will come back to "bite" everytime !!!"

    If we didn't win a single game this year it would be worth it for last season. 

    got it?

    By the way, we didn't sign guys to long term deals, 2 to 3 year deals max. 

    A couple days ago you're advising people to calm down now you're jumping off a bridge.

     

     
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    Actually the author of the OP is so short-sighted he deems two year extensions as long-term... and apparently believes that $16 million per season is "big $$$$" in baseball.

     
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    One more cry for attention by Bill.

     
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    This is why you just do not give "TWILIGHT PLAYERS" long term, extensions, & big $$$$$$.......  Will come back to "bite" everytime !!!

     



    As I have been saying since losing both Drew and Ellsbury while keeping Middy and our original LF in place "WE ARE NOT AND WON'T BE" as good as last season.  Sizemore could easily make up for the loss of Jacoby if he stays healthy but he needs to eventually play every day or close to it as does Shane.  If not our OF is pretty horrible which is why JBJ needs to mature quickly if possible.

    Those who knock AJ?  Don't because Salty will end up hitting less with a lot more mental/throwing issues so get over the guy.  Put the blame where the blame belongs, along with top players like Pede and David who are also struggling.  Once we finally decide who plays LF, SS and 3B long term while we wait for Vasquez and Swihart to take over the catching duties we are what we are.  Weak defensively with very little power and as I said in ST the run production will be less than last season.  Same goes for our young pitching, we can talk all we want about how good someone may be but that does very little for us today so we probably shouldn't trade a starter until things change.

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    We lost Drew, Ells and Salty from last year's lineup and they hit maybe thirty five homers between them. I'm pretty certain that Sizemore, Bogey and AJ will surpass that number. Don't get me wrong, I'm not happy with the start. But it is only a dozen games and to assume that we will have very little power makes no sense to me.

     
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    Once again Pumpsie is being baited by a troll and swallowing it hook, line and sinker. BTW, Victorino is in the second year of a three year contract.  Bill is either senile or trolling, take your pick. Pumpsie is a retired pediatrician who is scuba diving in retirement and likes to call Sox players with grade school nicknames. My God, seven years of college and he acts like a grade school kid?  Pumpsie also has an email address called DickRadatz @ -------- and Radatz has been dead for five years.  Is this who Dottie assigned as a moderator?

    Is anyone credible here at all here? Yet BDC Dottie has assigned stupid Pumpsie as a forum moderator. Unbelievable, apparently Dottie doesn't give a damn. One could shoot at a dartboard and get a better moderator.

    Obviously the forum is dying. Dottie is a professional and she assigns stupid Pumpsie as a moderator? Unbelievabe. Unreal.

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    Totally uncalled for.

    While Pumpsie and I certainly had our issues last year with his nicknames at the same time he's come into 2014 with a new attitude.  He has implied that the WS victory last year was a cartharsis for him and he's now on board with this team, warts and all.  I have yet to hear him speak derogotorially (is that a word?) of any player on the team beyond the usual small gripes we all have from time to time.

    I fail to see what he does/did professionally and what he does recreationally or what he has for email addresses has anything to do with his posts here.

    The forum is not dying.  In fact it's a better form than it was a month ago before Dottie appointed the local mods, regardless of who they are.  It appears that the biggest problem we have now is PIKE and his reincarnations.

    Ok, PG.  You're on your own now.  Laughing

     

     
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    This is why you just do not give "TWILIGHT PLAYERS" long term, extensions, & big $$$$$$.......  Will come back to "bite" everytime !!!

     



    As I have been saying since losing both Drew and Ellsbury while keeping Middy and our original LF in place "WE ARE NOT AND WON'T BE" as good as last season.  Sizemore could easily make up for the loss of Jacoby if he stays healthy but he needs to eventually play every day or close to it as does Shane.  If not our OF is pretty horrible which is why JBJ needs to mature quickly if possible.

    Those who knock AJ?  Don't because Salty will end up hitting less with a lot more mental/throwing issues so get over the guy.  Put the blame where the blame belongs, along with top players like Pede and David who are also struggling.  Once we finally decide who plays LF, SS and 3B long term while we wait for Vasquez and Swihart to take over the catching duties we are what we are.  Weak defensively with very little power and as I said in ST the run production will be less than last season.  Same goes for our young pitching, we can talk all we want about how good someone may be but that does very little for us today so we probably shouldn't trade a starter until things change.

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    We lost Drew, Ells and Salty from last year's lineup and they hit maybe thirty five homers between them. I'm pretty certain that Sizemore, Bogey and AJ will surpass that number. Don't get me wrong, I'm not happy with the start. But it is only a dozen games and to assume that we will have very little power makes no sense to me.

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    Time will tell but I still say we will lose more games and have less run production.  Our defense was already weak, now we have even less at SS and 3B.

     
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    I never did think this team would be that great this year anyway, so I'm not surprised at all this. I've been dreading the start of the season all winter for this very reason. Sad but true tale. I went into the NY series expecting to lose 3 of 4, so winning tonight would just be a bonus---and I HATE that it's a nationally televised game at NY, because the entire country will be focused on it if we get our heads handed to us. It will be "Yankee signings" and "Yanknee improvements" and "Jacoby Elsbury is a difference maker" all night. 

     
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    Actually the author of the OP is so short-sighted he deems two year extensions as long-term... and apparently believes that $16 million per season is "big $$$$" in baseball.

    [/QUOTE]Short-sighted ???  Not hardly......  Where is Victorino with his 2 years left ??? What is PAPI doing with his 15MIL+ Extension ???  Oh yes, how many people on this board thinks Jon Lester should get LONG TERM big $$$$$$$'s ?????


     
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    Two years is not long-term dim-bulb.

     
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    Two years is not long-term dim-bulb.

    [/QUOTE]Hey BAT-BOY, it certainly is when the player is not on the field or not producing !!!    As DAD would say........  "SMARTEN UP, PLEASE" !!


     
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    Actually the author of the OP is so short-sighted he deems two year extensions as long-term... and apparently believes that $16 million per season is "big $$$$" in baseball.

    [/QUOTE]Short-sighted ???  Not hardly......  Where is Victorino with his 2 years left ??? What is PAPI doing with his 15MIL+ Extension ???  Oh yes, how many people on this board thinks Jon Lester should get LONG TERM big $$$$$$$'s ?????


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    Actually the author of the OP is so short-sighted he deems two year extensions as long-term... and apparently believes that $16 million per season is "big $$$$" in baseball.

    [/QUOTE]Short-sighted ???  Not hardly......  Where is Victorino with his 2 years left ??? What is PAPI doing with his 15MIL+ Extension ???  Oh yes, how many people on this board thinks Jon Lester should get LONG TERM big $$$$$$$'s ?????


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    [/QUOTE]More childish remarks.......   & I thought that this was a baseball forum ???


     
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    Actually the author of the OP is so short-sighted he deems two year extensions as long-term... and apparently believes that $16 million per season is "big $$$$" in baseball.

    [/QUOTE]Short-sighted ???  Not hardly......  Where is Victorino with his 2 years left ??? What is PAPI doing with his 15MIL+ Extension ???  Oh yes, how many people on this board thinks Jon Lester should get LONG TERM big $$$$$$$'s ?????


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    [/QUOTE]More childish remarks.......   & I thought that this was a baseball forum ???


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    I call it as I see it. Im sure you understand that....You make no sense and continually post garbage threads like this that make no sense To trash the team. Very trollish.

    besides Pedey, nobody on this team has a long term deal. lester is Not in his twilight and Papi earned an extra year after his performance. Try making sense SOME sense please. 

     
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    Re: Maybe, we are just not as good as we think we are ??????

    Bill's threads are the Red Sox forum equivalent of Popeye the Sailor Man cartoons. 

     

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