Memo to Tito and Theo: How about teaching these millioniares how to run the bases better than a little league level

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    Memo to Tito and Theo: How about teaching these millioniares how to run the bases better than a little league level

    This team is embarrassing running the bases. It has nothing to do with speed and everything to do with a butchery of the fundamentals of baserunning. Cameron with the blunder tonight, and sending Scutaro with one out was complete idiocy. The odds are way higher that he scores from third with one out than he beats a realy throw off the short monster, trying to score from 1st on a cold wet night. Stupid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Henry needs to light into his management!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    Re: Memo to Tito and Theo: How about teaching these millioniares how to run the bases better than a little league level

    Bogar held up 2 hands for Scutaro to stop..Scutaro ran through the stop sign.
     
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    Re: Memo to Tito and Theo: How about teaching these millioniares how to run the bases better than a little league level

    when it comes to theo and tito, henry needs to put them in the unemployment line.
     
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    when it comes to beating a dead horse, you and your "buddy" GM are the KINGS of the BOARD...
     
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    In Response to Re: Memo to Tito and Theo: How about teaching these millioniares how to run the bases better than a little league level:
    [QUOTE]Bogar held up 2 hands for Scutaro to stop..Scutaro ran through the stop sign.
    Posted by southpaw777[/QUOTE]

    Don't confuse them with facts.
     
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    In Response to Memo to Tito and Theo: How about teaching these millioniares how to run the bases better than a little league level:
    [QUOTE]This team is embarrassing running the bases. It has nothing to do with speed and everything to do with a butchery of the fundamentals of baserunning. Cameron with the blunder tonight, and sending Scutaro with one out was complete idiocy. The odds are way higher that he scores from third with one out than he beats a realy throw off the short monster, trying to score from 1st on a cold wet night. Stupid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Henry needs to light into his management!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Posted by BaseballGM[/QUOTE]

    So you think a general managers job is teaching players how to run the bases?  

     
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    dead horse=tito
    dead horse=theo.
     
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    it all goes back to spring training.thats where your supposed to focus on the fundamentals like base running,sacrificing,fielding bunts,holding runnerson,throwing runners out.we know the consensus is that the team totally wasted spring trainig in almost every area.
     
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    In Response to Memo to Tito and Theo: How about teaching these millioniares how to run the bases better than a little league level:
    [QUOTE]This team is embarrassing running the bases. It has nothing to do with speed and everything to do with a butchery of the fundamentals of baserunning. Cameron with the blunder tonight, and sending Scutaro with one out was complete idiocy. The odds are way higher that he scores from third with one out than he beats a realy throw off the short monster, trying to score from 1st on a cold wet night. Stupid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Henry needs to light into his management!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Posted by BaseballGM[/QUOTE]

    As usual, you miss the boat.  No one "sent" Scutaro.  He ran though the stop sign.  Maybe if you stayed up and actually watched the game, you would know that. And Cameron's play was the right one but the ball hit the ump and rolled to the fielder instead into no mans land where it was headed.  It was not a blunder.
     
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    In Response to Re: Memo to Tito and Theo: How about teaching these millioniares how to run the bases better than a little league level:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Memo to Tito and Theo: How about teaching these millioniares how to run the bases better than a little league level :    BILL-806 & DAD, CONCUR !!!!
    Posted by Bill-806[/QUOTE]

    Bill, don't get their stink on your boot.
     
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    In Response to Re: Memo to Tito and Theo: How about teaching these millioniares how to run the bases better than a little league level:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Memo to Tito and Theo: How about teaching these millioniares how to run the bases better than a little league level : As usual, you miss the boat.  No one "sent" Scutaro.  He ran though the stop sign.  Maybe if you stayed up and actually watched the game, you would know that. And Cameron's play was the right one but the ball hit the ump and rolled to the fielder instead into no mans land where it was headed.  It was not a blunder.
    Posted by jimdavis[/QUOTE]

    The play was right in front of him. He was already in scoring position with no outs and he violated the cardinal sin of baseball; never make the first or third out at 3B. Of course he blew it!
     
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    Re: Memo to Tito and Theo: How about teaching these millioniares how to run the bases better than a little league level

    Actually, the Angels have runs the bases worse than the Sox, in this series anyway.

    I thought Cameron gambled when he should have.  The ball was loose, but then it hit the umpire and the Angel infielder made a great play to get the ball to 3B.  If he gets there, it's a man on 3B with just 1 out. 
     
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    Clearly, Bogar should have tackled Scutaro and dragged him back to third base.

     
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    OK - so despicable blunders, little league base running, inept 3rd base coaching, a lack of focus on the fundamentels in spring training cost them an extra inning game on a cold, rainy night, giving them 6-1 recond against the Angles for the season.

    Fire the GM, the manager, and the 3rd base coach, the pitching coach and put the utility infielder, the backup outfielder, and Dice_k on waivers.

    I blame the uniform makers.  In this day and age, they should be able to have uniforms that enable them to play in the rain.  No, check that.  I blame the umpire for calling the rain delay.  These guys are grown men - they can handle a little rain.  It's not like there was thunder and lightning.

     
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    BaseballGM has a double standard because he never cites baserunning mistakes by the opposing teams.  The Angels have been pretty lousy on the basepaths in this series.

    My real heartburn is that we have some slow guys like Ortiz and especially Gonzalez (really slow--maybe Mike Lowell slow) who require pinch runners, but we don't really have good pinch runners. 

    I did not see the Scutaro play, but am told the hold up sign was too late.  If Scutaro did this on his own, he was taking a big chance because a shot off the wall sometimes is just a single, which makes scoring from first problematical.  He was out by a mile and either he or the 3B coach screwed up.

    I thought Cameron was being opportunistic and that's good. 
     
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    Re: Memo to Tito and Theo: How about teaching these millioniares how to run the bases better than a little league level

    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Wednesday Night Baseball:Angels at Red Sox : doesnt matter. It will be franconas fault 2morrow. Take it to the bank
    Posted by redsoxlaxer12[/QUOTE]

    Hate to pull an SPC but.......Sooooooooooooo called this.
     
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    In Response to Re: Memo to Tito and Theo: How about teaching these millioniares how to run the bases better than a little league level:
    [QUOTE]Clearly, Bogar should have tackled Scutaro and dragged him back to third base.
    Posted by LloydDobler[/QUOTE]

    They need to exhume Woody Hayes and hire him as thrid base coach.
     
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    Re: Memo to Tito and Theo: How about teaching these millioniares how to run the bases better than a little league level

    You know that BaseballGM will never say anything positive about this team--unless, of course, JD Drew does it.  Good luck on that (although he does have the only two outfield assists this season).

    So of course BaseballGM would never cite Jacoby Ellsbury's absolutely clutch line drive single in the bottom of the 9th, with two outs, to tie the game.  No way. 

    Ellsbury is now tied for 4th in the AL in runs scored and tied for 3d in the AL in steals.  He has scored 5 more runs than any other Sox player and is 4th on the team in--drumroll, please--rbi's.  That's why last night's clutch hit was no big surprise.  Now, if Drew had done it, I would have been astonished.  His very last priority when he goes to the batter's box is being productive.  For all I know, he uses some of the $70M to bribe opposing pitchers into giving him walks, which are his best stat. 
     
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    I stayed up to watch this marathon and here is my take.  First of all, Scutaro is not fast, but he, like everyone in the stands thought that the ball was gone so he did not break hard from 1st.  He knew it wasn't going to be caught, so he should have been off on contact.  If it is out of here, he can slow down then.  He wasn't running full speed until he got to or past 2nd base.

    Now, Bogar was late in getting the sign up, but knowing that it would be close, but it had to go through the cutoff man, Scutaro should have stopped.  He may have slipped and fallen, but he wouldn't have been out by 10 feet and likely would have made it back to third!

    I agree that baserunning is something that a lot of pros take for granted, but had he just run from the start, he would likely have made it.  I was taught that you run hard until someone stops you.  In this case, he made an assumption that the ball was gone so he did not run hard from contact.  That cost us the game!

    The rule is you don't take the next bag if the fielder has the ball before you get to the bag you are approaching. Wells had the ball, he has a great arm, it's a very short throw and he had no cause to try to head home!

    Regarding Cameron, he looks as if he is trying to justify his being there and it's causing him to do stupid things.  I know it was wet, but he played right like he was on skates!  That made him miss the grounder and allowed the 5th run to score.  I know that the Sox didn't score any runs, but looking at a 1 run deficit is still way better than seeing that you need 2 runs to tie.

    On his attempting to take third on the misplay by Conger, well, I am 50/50 on that.  Had it not hit the ump, he may have been able to score, but it did and it was in front of him, so he knew the risks and took off anyway.  It wasn't really that close. The ump delayed the call to be sure that the ball wasn't dropped, not to see if he beat the throw.  IMO, he should have stayed at 2nd because it was a risk and we had the top of the order coming up.

    It would have been a great win, but instead it turned into a bad loss.

    Just my thoughts!
     
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    Re: Memo to Tito and Theo: How about teaching these millioniares how to run the bases better than a little league level

    I actually don't have a problem with either play.  I thought Cameron's play was a good play; Aybar had to make a perfect play to barely get him.  Scutaro's was a bit questionable, but I blame Scut for that one on multiple counts... he should have run hard from 1B, and he should have stopped at 3B once Bogar put up the sign.  Regardless, it did take a good throw from Aybar to get him out... if the throw is a couple feet up the line Scutaro beats it....
     
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    Re: Memo to Tito and Theo: How about teaching these millioniares how to run the bases better than a little league level

    It's called Making Something Happen.
     
    For years now we've been complaining about the Sox lack of speed and playing station-to-station baseball when on base.  Now they've got a little more speed and everyone is running a little more.  When that happens sometimes you get burned. 
    As billsrul said above, if that throw is two feet to either side Scutaro is a hero.  It took a perfect throw to get him and they executed the perfect throw.  Sometimes that happens.  That's the chance you take when you decide to take chances.

     
     
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    Re: Memo to Tito and Theo: How about teaching these millioniares how to run the bases better than a little league level

    These type of things should be worked out in ST. It is becoming more clear each day this team was totally un prepared for the season. It is easy to blame it all on the players but it is up to the coaching staff to have the bugs worked out. This is just one of the reasons I have said francona is a terrible manager. He should have been let go after the way he ran the team last season. Even with the injuries they were in a PS run until he made horrible decisions with the pitching staff cost the sox enough games to eliminate them from the PS.

    Even with all this people are backing this managers decisions, but what they are finding is they don't really have a base for their arguements. Some of them seeing the foolishness of trying to defend these lame moves they are saying we are leaving. Why they are leaving is there base to defend francona is made out of straw. So instead of facing the people who are right they coward out and leave.  Glad you are on board about francoma leaving more of us each day are taking a stand.



    In Response to Memo to Tito and Theo: How about teaching these millioniares how to run the bases better than a little league level:
    [QUOTE]This team is embarrassing running the bases. It has nothing to do with speed and everything to do with a butchery of the fundamentals of baserunning. Cameron with the blunder tonight, and sending Scutaro with one out was complete idiocy. The odds are way higher that he scores from third with one out than he beats a realy throw off the short monster, trying to score from 1st on a cold wet night. Stupid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Henry needs to light into his management!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Posted by BaseballGM[/QUOTE]
     
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