MLB to begin testing for HGH this season

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    .  It just amazes me how players in their twilight years resurrect their careers when they come to New York, like Raul Ibanez, Andrew Jones, Bartolo Colon. 

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    interesting

    it amazes him that colon had a special operation

    that everyone, including mlb, knows about

    and that ibanez hit more HR the yr B4 he was on the yanks

    in a LH power haven

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    Yes he had an operation all right and just got better after it. Oh yeah and AROD was clean as well.

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    Everybody knows AROD wasn't clean; not sure what this means beyond lame & juvenile smack.

     
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    Did Jones really "resurrect his career" in NY? If anything, he was juicing his last several seasons in Atlanta, and it ruined him.

     
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    Did Jones really "resurrect his career" in NY? If anything, he was juicing his last several seasons in Atlanta, and it ruined him.

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    He did really well with them last year. Boy no one wants to ever hear about the Golden Boy Jeter possibly using HGH. Can anyone say beyond a reasonable doubt that he does not use PEDs? Brian Naulty named him him then rescinded the comment. The Yankees will never let anything damaging about Jeter get out and he is very well insulated. If his stats drop drastically this year people will smell a rat and he is in the final year of a contract as well.

     
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    Did Jones really "resurrect his career" in NY? If anything, he was juicing his last several seasons in Atlanta, and it ruined him.

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    He did really well with them last year. Boy no one wants to ever hear about the Golden Boy Jeter possibly using HGH. Can anyone say beyond a reasonable doubt that he does not use PEDs? Brian Naulty named him him then rescinded the comment. The Yankees will never let anything damaging about Jeter get out and he is very well insulated. If his stats drop drastically this year people will smell a rat and he is in the final year of a contract as well.

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    Link please.

     
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    Did Jones really "resurrect his career" in NY? If anything, he was juicing his last several seasons in Atlanta, and it ruined him.

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    He did really well with them last year. Boy no one wants to ever hear about the Golden Boy Jeter possibly using HGH. Can anyone say beyond a reasonable doubt that he does not use PEDs? Brian Naulty named him him then rescinded the comment. The Yankees will never let anything damaging about Jeter get out and he is very well insulated. If his stats drop drastically this year people will smell a rat and he is in the final year of a contract as well.

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    I guess you think hitting .190-ish is well; the likely problem is those 2 bombs he hit vs the RS last yr is tatooed in your memory.

    As far as Jeter is concerned, he's a yr older, and had a serious injury in the PS. So maybe if he declines from that terrific season, it could be due to that.

    Having said that, nobody is beyond reproach; but your obssession with these Yankee legends who are most likely clean is comical. BTW, what about Nomar, Lowell & Ortiz? 

     
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    Did Jones really "resurrect his career" in NY? If anything, he was juicing his last several seasons in Atlanta, and it ruined him.

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    He did really well with them last year. Boy no one wants to ever hear about the Golden Boy Jeter possibly using HGH. Can anyone say beyond a reasonable doubt that he does not use PEDs? Brian Naulty named him him then rescinded the comment. The Yankees will never let anything damaging about Jeter get out and he is very well insulated. If his stats drop drastically this year people will smell a rat and he is in the final year of a contract as well.

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    I guess you think hitting .190-ish is well; the likely problem is those 2 bombs he hit vs the RS last yr is tatooed in your memory.

    As far as Jeter is concerned, he's a yr older, and had a serious injury in the PS. So maybe if he declines from that terrific season, it could be due to that.

    Having said that, nobody is beyond reproach; but your obssession with these Yankee legends who are most likely clean is comical. BTW, what about Nomar, Lowell & Ortiz? 

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    What about them??

     
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    JBay a while back WFAN said no one is beyond reproach anymore, No one and that includes those famous Yankees as well.

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    Did Jones really "resurrect his career" in NY? If anything, he was juicing his last several seasons in Atlanta, and it ruined him.

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    He did really well with them last year. Boy no one wants to ever hear about the Golden Boy Jeter possibly using HGH. Can anyone say beyond a reasonable doubt that he does not use PEDs? Brian Naulty named him him then rescinded the comment. The Yankees will never let anything damaging about Jeter get out and he is very well insulated. If his stats drop drastically this year people will smell a rat and he is in the final year of a contract as well.

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    I guess you think hitting .190-ish is well; the likely problem is those 2 bombs he hit vs the RS last yr is tatooed in your memory.

    As far as Jeter is concerned, he's a yr older, and had a serious injury in the PS. So maybe if he declines from that terrific season, it could be due to that.

    Having said that, nobody is beyond reproach; but your obssession with these Yankee legends who are most likely clean is comical. BTW, what about Nomar, Lowell & Ortiz? 

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    What about them??

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    JBay a while back WFAN said no one is beyond reproach anymore, No one and that includes those famous Yankees as well. Can anyone say with 100 percent certainty that Jeter and Rivera never took PEDs ? Nothing shocks me anymore, about anyone and if his name was on a list it would not surprise me. Sorry people but you do not get better with age. I was in top physical condition with the army and the Army knew that on the Physical Fitness Tests that it is extremely difficult to get better with age.

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    Did Jones really "resurrect his career" in NY? If anything, he was juicing his last several seasons in Atlanta, and it ruined him.

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    He did really well with them last year. Boy no one wants to ever hear about the Golden Boy Jeter possibly using HGH. Can anyone say beyond a reasonable doubt that he does not use PEDs? Brian Naulty named him him then rescinded the comment. The Yankees will never let anything damaging about Jeter get out and he is very well insulated. If his stats drop drastically this year people will smell a rat and he is in the final year of a contract as well.

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    I guess you think hitting .190-ish is well; the likely problem is those 2 bombs he hit vs the RS last yr is tatooed in your memory.

    As far as Jeter is concerned, he's a yr older, and had a serious injury in the PS. So maybe if he declines from that terrific season, it could be due to that.

    Having said that, nobody is beyond reproach; but your obssession with these Yankee legends who are most likely clean is comical. BTW, what about Nomar, Lowell & Ortiz? 

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    What about them??

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    Wow. Al's the man. Taking on all the Yankee fans, as usual, defending their beloved team. No keeping it real here for them. I saw a thread about bad long contracts of Sox players that someone made the mistake of including ARod in. Zac turned that into 80 more posts defending his beloved ARod -- the contract that probably started all the ridiculous contracts. lol 

    FTR talking negatively about Yankee players on a Sox board is completely different from talking negatively about Sox players on a Sox board. Yankee fans still refuse to understand that because in their mind, this is a dual board where you can say negative things about the Sox, in fact, it's encouraged, but you can't say anything negative about the Yankees. A Sox poster was even banned from his own board for doing it. Hilarious.

     
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    Oh, and Mariano doesn't need PEDs. He'll always get every outside pitch he needs.

     
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    o o, lookin for papi to shrink a little and decline more rapidly that he has been!

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    You told them "Sox" fan!

     
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    JBay a while back WFAN said no one is beyond reproach anymore, No one and that includes those famous Yankees as well.

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    Did Jones really "resurrect his career" in NY? If anything, he was juicing his last several seasons in Atlanta, and it ruined him.

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    He did really well with them last year. Boy no one wants to ever hear about the Golden Boy Jeter possibly using HGH. Can anyone say beyond a reasonable doubt that he does not use PEDs? Brian Naulty named him him then rescinded the comment. The Yankees will never let anything damaging about Jeter get out and he is very well insulated. If his stats drop drastically this year people will smell a rat and he is in the final year of a contract as well.

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    I guess you think hitting .190-ish is well; the likely problem is those 2 bombs he hit vs the RS last yr is tatooed in your memory.

    As far as Jeter is concerned, he's a yr older, and had a serious injury in the PS. So maybe if he declines from that terrific season, it could be due to that.

    Having said that, nobody is beyond reproach; but your obssession with these Yankee legends who are most likely clean is comical. BTW, what about Nomar, Lowell & Ortiz? 

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    What about them??

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    Regarding reproach, I said the same exact thing a couple of posts up. As far as Lowell is concerned, he was a slugger  in a pitcher's park (Fla), then his build was much smaller on the RS, and actually hit 8 HRs a couple of yrs after that; then he developed a severe hip problem, which ended his career. My DAD back in the '80s had to take a powerful steroid long term for a muscle disease he had, which caused necrosis of the hip, a terribly painful & debilitating condition. Also, see ARod.

    AS far as Nomar is concerned, he was the first suspect named on the "unconfirmed" 2003  list of PED users; see below

     

    http://www.yardbarker.com/mlb/articles/Unconfirmed_list_of_2003_PED_users/758032

     

    And Kim, you talking about keeping it real is like a pedophile priest lecturing morals To Pope John Paul II.

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    "Keeping it real" is a Yankee phrase created by Zac as his rule for Sox boards. It means nothing to me. I don't take orders from Zac. Hopefully, one day this board will lose all the rules set up by Yankee fans here including, if you say negative things about the Sox, it's cool. If you say anything negative about the Yankees you could be banned from Red Sox: On The Front Burner. They do seem to be the rules here.

     
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    JBay a while back WFAN said no one is beyond reproach anymore, No one and that includes those famous Yankees as well.

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    Did Jones really "resurrect his career" in NY? If anything, he was juicing his last several seasons in Atlanta, and it ruined him.

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    He did really well with them last year. Boy no one wants to ever hear about the Golden Boy Jeter possibly using HGH. Can anyone say beyond a reasonable doubt that he does not use PEDs? Brian Naulty named him him then rescinded the comment. The Yankees will never let anything damaging about Jeter get out and he is very well insulated. If his stats drop drastically this year people will smell a rat and he is in the final year of a contract as well.

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    I guess you think hitting .190-ish is well; the likely problem is those 2 bombs he hit vs the RS last yr is tatooed in your memory.

    As far as Jeter is concerned, he's a yr older, and had a serious injury in the PS. So maybe if he declines from that terrific season, it could be due to that.

    Having said that, nobody is beyond reproach; but your obssession with these Yankee legends who are most likely clean is comical. BTW, what about Nomar, Lowell & Ortiz? 

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    What about them??

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    Regarding reproach, I said the same exact thing a couple of posts up. As far as Lowell is concerned, he was a slugger  in a pitcher's park (Fla), then his build was much smaller on the RS, and actually hit 8 HRs a couple of yrs after that; then he developed a severe hip problem, which ended his career. My DAD back in the '80s had to take a powerful steroid long term for a muscle disease he had, which caused necrosis of the hip, a terribly painful & debilitating condition. Also, see ARod.

    AS far as Nomar is concerned, he was the first suspect named on the "unconfirmed" 2003  list of PED users; see below

     

    http://www.yardbarker.com/mlb/articles/Unconfirmed_list_of_2003_PED_users/758032

     

    And Kim, you talking about keeping it real is like a pedophile priest lecturing morals To Pope John Paul II.

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    "Keeping it real" is a Yankee phrase created by Zac as his rule for Sox boards. It means nothing to me. I don't take orders from Zac. Hopefully, one day this board will lose all the rules set up by Yankee fans here including, if you say negative things about the Sox, it's cool. If you say anything negative about the Yankees you could be banned from Red Sox: On The Front Burner. They do seem to be the rules here.

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    What about Babe?

     
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    JBay a while back WFAN said no one is beyond reproach anymore, No one and that includes those famous Yankees as well.

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    Did Jones really "resurrect his career" in NY? If anything, he was juicing his last several seasons in Atlanta, and it ruined him.

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    He did really well with them last year. Boy no one wants to ever hear about the Golden Boy Jeter possibly using HGH. Can anyone say beyond a reasonable doubt that he does not use PEDs? Brian Naulty named him him then rescinded the comment. The Yankees will never let anything damaging about Jeter get out and he is very well insulated. If his stats drop drastically this year people will smell a rat and he is in the final year of a contract as well.

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    I guess you think hitting .190-ish is well; the likely problem is those 2 bombs he hit vs the RS last yr is tatooed in your memory.

    As far as Jeter is concerned, he's a yr older, and had a serious injury in the PS. So maybe if he declines from that terrific season, it could be due to that.

    Having said that, nobody is beyond reproach; but your obssession with these Yankee legends who are most likely clean is comical. BTW, what about Nomar, Lowell & Ortiz? 

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    What about them??

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    Regarding reproach, I said the same exact thing a couple of posts up. As far as Lowell is concerned, he was a slugger  in a pitcher's park (Fla), then his build was much smaller on the RS, and actually hit 8 HRs a couple of yrs after that; then he developed a severe hip problem, which ended his career. My DAD back in the '80s had to take a powerful steroid long term for a muscle disease he had, which caused necrosis of the hip, a terribly painful & debilitating condition. Also, see ARod.

    AS far as Nomar is concerned, he was the first suspect named on the "unconfirmed" 2003  list of PED users; see below

     

    http://www.yardbarker.com/mlb/articles/Unconfirmed_list_of_2003_PED_users/758032

     

    And Kim, you talking about keeping it real is like a pedophile priest lecturing morals To Pope John Paul II.

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    "Keeping it real" is a Yankee phrase created by Zac as his rule for Sox boards. It means nothing to me. I don't take orders from Zac. Hopefully, one day this board will lose all the rules set up by Yankee fans here including, if you say negative things about the Sox, it's cool. If you say anything negative about the Yankees you could be banned from Red Sox: On The Front Burner. They do seem to be the rules here.

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    What about Babe?

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    If you're comparing Babe to Beni, Beni never insulted anyone and never said a negative word about a Yankee fan. When Yankee fans/trolls insulted him, he ignored them. He simply made fun of the Yankees. Babe goes after Sox fans, and continually insults them on their own board no less. And he says he does it because they invade his town during spring training so it's payback for that. IOW someone who's not wrapped too tight.

    You sent Harness the message about Beni, including his immitators that were blamed on Beni, but weren't and were actually Mikey. Harness felt Beni's threads were dividing the board, a board you would have to believe was dual in order to make that assumption, so Beni was removed. That's what happened. I know this because I was a friend of Harness', and he told me that.

    Still this board continues to have negative Sox threads all the time, but Beni's threads that were just making fun of the Yankees are gone. And let's face it, there aren't any other negative Yankee threads that have taken their place. Complete nonsense.

     
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    I agree with you that Beni never made it personal.

     
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    Did Jones really "resurrect his career" in NY? If anything, he was juicing his last several seasons in Atlanta, and it ruined him.

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    He did really well with them last year. Boy no one wants to ever hear about the Golden Boy Jeter possibly using HGH. Can anyone say beyond a reasonable doubt that he does not use PEDs? Brian Naulty named him him then rescinded the comment. The Yankees will never let anything damaging about Jeter get out and he is very well insulated. If his stats drop drastically this year people will smell a rat and he is in the final year of a contract as well.

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    I guess you think hitting .190-ish is well; the likely problem is those 2 bombs he hit vs the RS last yr is tatooed in your memory.

    As far as Jeter is concerned, he's a yr older, and had a serious injury in the PS. So maybe if he declines from that terrific season, it could be due to that.

    Having said that, nobody is beyond reproach; but your obssession with these Yankee legends who are most likely clean is comical. BTW, what about Nomar, Lowell & Ortiz? 

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    Hey NH,

    Fact of the matter is that most of the players by the end of the last century dabbled in, used or abused steriods to differing level and continued to into the new millinium. I've always been of the mind that the actual percentage of players that fell into the above catergory was close to 90%. If we look back at the timeline for the implementation of the new, more stringent testing, it was not until they changed the program in 2007 that any real in-roads were made in curbing the use of steriods. They also placed a greater emphisis on elimanting the drug of choice that was prevelent in the game since the early 40's; greenies.

    My guess is that once the new policy was implemented that many of the abusers simpy turned to HGH as their primary tonic. Some like Manny simply kept on using what worked before and got busted. While most of the others, awaited a new stain of steriods and masking agents that were specifically designed to help them to pass the urine tests and the cycle begins anew. So regardless of the team one roots for and the players they see as icons or they're favorites. No team or player is above repproach and that's perhaps the saddest part of this entire ordeal.

    Lets look at a couple of players who's numbers took a sharp turn downward after 2007 and then miraculously have spiked again a few years later (Ortiz?)...While some have fallen off the map entirely (Beckett). Circumstancial perhaps, but it is curious that in 2007 Beckett's top end velocity was 95 to 96 and by the end of 2008 he was throwing in the low 90's and has never regained the abiltiy to consistently exceed 92 MPH since. It's not like he was an old man and injury's are part of the explanation. I am sure that if we look back at the average fastball velocity of all ML pitchers and graphed them by year from 1980 to the present. My guess is that we'd see a rise throughout what today is considered the steriod era and downward arc since the new testing and again an increase once the new tonics had the chance to take affect...

     
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    JBay a while back WFAN said no one is beyond reproach anymore, No one and that includes those famous Yankees as well.

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    Did Jones really "resurrect his career" in NY? If anything, he was juicing his last several seasons in Atlanta, and it ruined him.

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    He did really well with them last year. Boy no one wants to ever hear about the Golden Boy Jeter possibly using HGH. Can anyone say beyond a reasonable doubt that he does not use PEDs? Brian Naulty named him him then rescinded the comment. The Yankees will never let anything damaging about Jeter get out and he is very well insulated. If his stats drop drastically this year people will smell a rat and he is in the final year of a contract as well.

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    I guess you think hitting .190-ish is well; the likely problem is those 2 bombs he hit vs the RS last yr is tatooed in your memory.

    As far as Jeter is concerned, he's a yr older, and had a serious injury in the PS. So maybe if he declines from that terrific season, it could be due to that.

    Having said that, nobody is beyond reproach; but your obssession with these Yankee legends who are most likely clean is comical. BTW, what about Nomar, Lowell & Ortiz? 

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    What about them??

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    Regarding reproach, I said the same exact thing a couple of posts up. As far as Lowell is concerned, he was a slugger  in a pitcher's park (Fla), then his build was much smaller on the RS, and actually hit 8 HRs a couple of yrs after that; then he developed a severe hip problem, which ended his career. My DAD back in the '80s had to take a powerful steroid long term for a muscle disease he had, which caused necrosis of the hip, a terribly painful & debilitating condition. Also, see ARod.

    AS far as Nomar is concerned, he was the first suspect named on the "unconfirmed" 2003  list of PED users; see below

     

    http://www.yardbarker.com/mlb/articles/Unconfirmed_list_of_2003_PED_users/758032

     

    And Kim, you talking about keeping it real is like a pedophile priest lecturing morals To Pope John Paul II.

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    Which is my point, Steven. Everyone is suspect nor beyond reproach, list or not. Unless or until a player is a proven user, these PED accusations between Sox and Yankee fans, are no more than playground tactics, kicking sand in the other's face. 

     
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    Did Jones really "resurrect his career" in NY? If anything, he was juicing his last several seasons in Atlanta, and it ruined him.

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    He did really well with them last year. Boy no one wants to ever hear about the Golden Boy Jeter possibly using HGH. Can anyone say beyond a reasonable doubt that he does not use PEDs? Brian Naulty named him him then rescinded the comment. The Yankees will never let anything damaging about Jeter get out and he is very well insulated. If his stats drop drastically this year people will smell a rat and he is in the final year of a contract as well.

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    Thanks for the link/s to back up your nutty fanatical baseless charges.

    Brian McNamee NEVER mentioned/linked Jeter in any of his PED related comments.

     
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    JBay a while back WFAN said no one is beyond reproach anymore, No one and that includes those famous Yankees as well.

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    Did Jones really "resurrect his career" in NY? If anything, he was juicing his last several seasons in Atlanta, and it ruined him.

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    He did really well with them last year. Boy no one wants to ever hear about the Golden Boy Jeter possibly using HGH. Can anyone say beyond a reasonable doubt that he does not use PEDs? Brian Naulty named him him then rescinded the comment. The Yankees will never let anything damaging about Jeter get out and he is very well insulated. If his stats drop drastically this year people will smell a rat and he is in the final year of a contract as well.

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    I guess you think hitting .190-ish is well; the likely problem is those 2 bombs he hit vs the RS last yr is tatooed in your memory.

    As far as Jeter is concerned, he's a yr older, and had a serious injury in the PS. So maybe if he declines from that terrific season, it could be due to that.

    Having said that, nobody is beyond reproach; but your obssession with these Yankee legends who are most likely clean is comical. BTW, what about Nomar, Lowell & Ortiz? 

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    What about them??

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    Regarding reproach, I said the same exact thing a couple of posts up. As far as Lowell is concerned, he was a slugger  in a pitcher's park (Fla), then his build was much smaller on the RS, and actually hit 8 HRs a couple of yrs after that; then he developed a severe hip problem, which ended his career. My DAD back in the '80s had to take a powerful steroid long term for a muscle disease he had, which caused necrosis of the hip, a terribly painful & debilitating condition. Also, see ARod.

    AS far as Nomar is concerned, he was the first suspect named on the "unconfirmed" 2003  list of PED users; see below

     

    http://www.yardbarker.com/mlb/articles/Unconfirmed_list_of_2003_PED_users/758032

     

    And Kim, you talking about keeping it real is like a pedophile priest lecturing morals To Pope John Paul II.

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    You can add Youkilis to that list too (hip?)...While I get that it's fun to make accusations and throw players from the opposing teams into the fire...Manny and Ortiz both were outed and the list of Yankees is too long to list. So neither fan base can or should try to paint one or the others as any better or worse than the club they call thier own.

    The use of Perfromance Enhancing Drug(S), better know by it's alias "sports medicine" has been at play in every sport since before WWII...Steriods, blood doping, HGH and gentic altering drugs all have gained traction since the East Germans and the Soviet Union used them to create the perfect body types, fining tuning the training and perforomace levels specific to each disipline, while dominating the Olympics in almost every catergory well into the the 1980's to use as propaganda in an attempt to show to the people and the the world at large that marksicism and the displines of that society, trumped socialisism or democracy.

    Thus my advice to all is get over it and leave the clean-up to the league and just enjoy watching the game. Today the game appears to be headed towards cleaning itself up...the reality is that until they fix the pervasive culture that drives athletes and trainers to look for an edge. Heckle will always be one step in front of Jeckle...

     
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    Re: MLB to begin testing for HGH this season

    It was in a sports illustrated last July.

     

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    Did Jones really "resurrect his career" in NY? If anything, he was juicing his last several seasons in Atlanta, and it ruined him.

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    He did really well with them last year. Boy no one wants to ever hear about the Golden Boy Jeter possibly using HGH. Can anyone say beyond a reasonable doubt that he does not use PEDs? Brian Naulty named him him then rescinded the comment. The Yankees will never let anything damaging about Jeter get out and he is very well insulated. If his stats drop drastically this year people will smell a rat and he is in the final year of a contract as well.

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    Link please.

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