Re: MLB to begin testing for HGH this season
posted at 1/20/2013 7:30 AM EST
In response to jete02fan's comment:
In response to Beantowne's comment:
In response to jete02fan's comment:
not that it's a big deal, i guess the culture we now live in(sportswise) dictates that everyone should be suspect, imo..a sad commentary on American sports
Respectfully Jete, but cycling is hardly an American sport...Peds "AKA" Sports medicine knows no boundaries...It pervasive in all sport and in fact it's origins are in fact rooted in Eastern Europe and China...
Derek Jeter is just as responsible as Bud Selig and every player that wore a unifrom in the last 20 years for hiding behind a collective bargining aggrement and allowing the use to get to the point that it literally took an act of congress to get the players association to finally relent to the pressures of congress and agree to testing. I know that you know the he knew of the use in the Yankee clubhouse and he looked the other way. Instead of standing on a chair in the middle of the clubhouse and calling out those that he knew were using...
i hear you Beans....i guess "American sports" was too broad a term...i just meant the sports where we hear most of these stories...i'm totally NOT against testing, i realize it inhererently makes all the athletes in that sport responsible
Don't you find it a bit curious that the NFL suspends a dozen players a year for use of and for the most part fly under the radar. While in MLB Baseball it's viewed and reported like a scandal...Part of that I think stems from our need to hold on to what has made baseball the game that it is. In a statistic driven sport, the timeless quality that allowed us to compare Babe Ruth's 714 with Hank Aaron's 755 and Barry Bonds, was lost during this ERA and replaced with an asterisk *. I also feel as though the manner in which Fehr and the player association fought the implementation of testing and the all to public nature of the congressional hearings. Where many of the players purgered themselves and the susequent trials helped to fuel what is now a three ring circus.
In the end MLB has only themselves to blame in totale, none of those that participated in allowing this to get to this point are without some level of responsibility. I too support more stringent testing and have since learning of the pervasive use by the players. I will add that testing alone won't rid the game of and until the penalty for use is such that it's prohibitive. Those looking for an edge will continue to seek out the next best scientists who have developed the means to mask the use of and the cycle will continue.
Manny Ramirez signed a 25M dollar extension with the Dodgers based on numbers he emassed while on steriods, got busted, suspended without pay for 50 games. Returned and netted 17M...
So I'll asked a simple question..Would you take an illegal substance that in so doing gave you the ability to based on your production seek compensation in your present employment. That would set you and your familiy up for life, a wage that was comensuarate with the best in your field, that you otherwise wouldn't be able to command if you were clean. One that carried a penalty if caught you'd be suspended for a month, then allowed to return thereafter, at the same wage and the only thing you'd have to sacrifice is the moneys docked while on suspension. I think most of us if honest with ourselves would indeed "drink the tonic".
It is from this prisism that MLB and every other professional or ametuer sports organization needs to view this issue. Melky Cabrera was suspended for 50 games last year, then this past offseason signed a free agent contract with the Blue Jays...So in the end, he lost a couple of million, still made a couple of million and will this year make a couple of million more. So getting busted in my mind is hardly a deterent...If they truly want to make inroads and stiffle the use of, they have to take away the very thing that motives the players to use...the game itself and the riches bestowed upon them becasue they can hit a round ball with a round bat, squarely.
I would have to think that a two year suspension without pay and the team has the option of voiding the player contract. Would serve as a far greater deterent than the current slap on the wrist of 50 games without pay. It won't elimante the cheaters from continuing to look for an edge...but will give many others pause...Locks are meant to keep honest people honest. If the penalty for murder in our society was a night in jail, the bodies would line the streets...