Re: Moon Think Again - Guys with .250 BA and .400 OBA Don't Exist
posted at 9/4/2013 11:30 AM EDT
In response to dgalehouse's comment:
There is also the possibility that many of those walks were either intentional or strategic pitching around a guy in certain situations, and did not necessarily benefit the team. There are a lot of variables in trying to evaluate all of these stats.
Stabbed by Foulke.
Yes and usually when a player is IBB (not all the time but often) it is because he is a dangerous hitter. A guy who hits a lot of HR's and hits a lot of doubles. Theres a difference between facing a player who is hitting .318 but can't slug and a guy who is batting .310 and can't slug.
Those are the respected batting average for Jose Iglesias and David Ortiz. Walks are not as valuables as hits, but they do hold value. But batting average only averages the amount OF hits and not the quality of the hit. Now SLG doesn't take into account hitting with runners in scoring position but it does weight singles, doubles, triples, and HR's.
a guy who hits .300 hit 60 XBH is worth more than a guy who hits .300 with 30 XBH. It's not that I don't find AVG indicative, I just think it's better to look at SLG% and par it up with OBP%. Which AVG is a function of OBP%
We can argue all day how looking at one stat alone can be very misleading and this is true for ALL of the stats. The basic premise that has been laid out by the anti BA people isn't that BA isn't a very good stat to look at only that people tend to put more weight into it.
Do some people weight OBP to heavily? or perhaps over estimate how much a high OBP can make up for a lower AVG? yes, but it seems me that it is much much more common that AVG is the overhyped stat.
People who tend to look at and value OBP, very commonly weight it with SLG% which combined is a much better measure of the offensive contributions a player brings to the plate than AVG alone. There is an old school of thought (not everyone) where people tend to look at a very small window of numbers, and AVG tends to be the prime suspect of those people....along with WINS.