Moon Think Again - Guys with .250 BA and .400 OBA Don't Exist

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    Re: Moon Think Again - Guys with .250 BA and .400 OBA Don't Exist

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    Who's a better batter this season?

    Player A .324 BA

    Player B .293 BA (5 more XBHs)

     

    Now, add these other numbers:

    Player A   .379 OBP / .531 SLG

    Player B  .398 OBP / .537 SLG

     

    Player A is Adrian Beltre and B is Goldschmidt

    Sox4ever

     




    Saying who was better between Beltre and Goldschmidt is purely that person's opinion. I don't think a 'better' argument can be made between the two of them.

     

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    Golschmidt has clearly been a better offensive player than Beltre. Beltre is having a great season, but Goldschmidt has done better. 

     
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    Re: Moon Think Again - Guys with .250 BA and .400 OBA Don't Exist

    In response to moonslav59's comment:

    In response to ADG's comment:

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    In response to moonslav59's comment:

     

    [QUOTE]

     

     

    Who's a better batter this season?

    Player A .324 BA

    Player B .293 BA (5 more XBHs)

     

    Now, add these other numbers:

    Player A   .379 OBP / .531 SLG

    Player B  .398 OBP / .537 SLG

     

    Player A is Adrian Beltre and B is Goldschmidt

    Sox4ever

     

     




    Saying who was better between Beltre and Goldschmidt is purely that person's opinion. I don't think a 'better' argument can be made between the two of them.

     

     

     

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    Golschmidt has clearly been a better offensive player than Beltre. Beltre is having a great season, but Goldschmidt has done better. 

     

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    ....of course he has, it's fairly close but obvious that it's Goldschmidt....unless one drives an Edsel and gets their stats off the back of a baseball card.

     
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    Re: Moon Think Again - Guys with .250 BA and .400 OBA Don't Exist

    Beltre is pretty much a free swinger. Doesn't get a lot of walks.  And , a good hitter on a weaker team like Arizona may get pitched around more than a good hitter on a better team like Texas. Goldschmidt is a very good hitter. I wanted to go see him play when Arizona was at Fenway , but my lousy Edsel was in the shop again.

    Stabbed by Foulke

     
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    Re: Moon Think Again - Guys with .250 BA and .400 OBA Don't Exist

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    Beltre is pretty much a free swinger. Doesn't get a lot of walks.  And , a good hitter on a weaker team like Arizona may get pitched around more than a good hitter on a better team like Texas. Goldschmidt is a very good hitter. I wanted to go see him play when Arizona was at Fenway , but my lousy Edsel was in the shop again.

    Stabbed by Foulke



    Thanks for not giving me a deserved slap for my p-taking Edsel comment....it may have been a bit over the top.  :-)

    I (51) grew up believing "baseball card stats" were the foundation of performance, but have long since been convinced that while some retain significant value - especially re individual performance - many have been superceded by more advanced analysis.  Simple examples: W-L record, RBI, Runs, BA, SB, sacrifices.

    BABIP is a great example....an imperfect identifier of "luck", but a pretty good start....for both pitchers and batters.

     
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    Re: Moon Think Again - Guys with .250 BA and .400 OBA Don't Exist

    They exist. Many close to them exist. The theory is sound.

    Sox4ever

     
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    Re: Moon Think Again - Guys with .250 BA and .400 OBA Don't Exist

    Here is stats from 2009. Many players approached a 150 point differential between the two.

    http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/2338
    I have used this handle since 2005.

     
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