Re: Nice Try Jed Lowrie!
posted at 4/18/2011 6:09 PM EDT
In Response to Re: Nice Try Jed Lowrie!
You're grasping at straws. I don't think so. I think you are post hoc rationalizing at one snap shot date in time, ignoring the big picture. Have you not read the articles and reports showing that Jed was injured prior to even being called up in 2008? Are you aware that wrist injuries generally sap a hitters power for the better part of 2 years? I've seen articles that came out recently that are post hoc articles. I've seen old articles that say he didn't know when he aggravated it. Pure speculation on timing and extent of injury, which can be done to cut it out career stats in any player history. Long term isn't it better to see what Lowrie can do full time this year, so decisions can be made regarding the SS position for the 2012 season, or does long term not apply to anything beyond 2011? No, because decisions should already be made on the planning for 2012. Either they are going to go with a true defensive SS, which they can do for 2012, or they aren't. Most Red Sox fans are ignorant, so going with a defensive SS over Lowrie will set them off. Management should finally get a long term young defensive SS in place for 2012, and not having Lowrie start another 20 or 30 games should have no bearing whatsoever on that decision. A full season of AAA and a few MLB games during roster expansion should have Iglesias ready to go. A cheap veteran solid fielding weaker hitting lefty SS to go with Iglesias should be the plan. Lowrie is blocked at 2B, which is what he is defensively, and Youk's splits against RHP are too good to move Lowrie to 3rd. Theo has made a bunch of mistakes on SS, he'd better not vacillate now. 15 starts for Lowrie until you're argument about sample sizes is made even more irrelevant. His 2010-2011 sample will be the same number of games as his injured 2008 season. I'm going to put it to you straight. Lowrie is not going to be a strong enough hitter v. RHP to warrant making him an everyday career SS that makes up for his weak SS fielding with his hitting. We will agree to disagree on that, and if you think starting him at SS against RH and LH starting pitching is going to prove something that isn't known then you are a slow study. His numbers are not in an everday SS role in 2010 or this year. The role works, why on earth change it!
Posted by BaseballGM
My favorite part was when you regressed back to your softy formatting
Seriously though, I'm a big fan of Iglesias and assuming he shows he can get on base at an acceptable level (.310 OBP) I am all for him being the starting SS in 2012. You seem to be missing the bigger picture here though. Lowrie is under team control through 2014, either he's a part of the teams plans (potentially 3B or DH, with Youk sliding to DH) or he isn't (trade). If he's a part fo the plans going forward, you need to see him play every day, if he isn't a part of the plans going forward, you need him to play everyday to boost his trade value. It's fine if you want a defense first SS, but that isn't on the 25 man roster right now, so you go with the bigger bat with similar defense in Lowrie.
Lowrie (excluding agreed upon injured 2009, as well as today's stats):
vs RHP .242/.327/.392 - .719
vs LHP .348/.415/.585 - 1.000
vs RHP .270/.333/.380 - .713
vs LHP .256/.343/.394 - .736
We know that Lowrie's wrist injury was affecting him during his 8-51 slump in 2008, however I have included those AB's in Lowrie's career totals. Today's stats were excluded because fangraphs hasn't updated yet and I already had the site open.
Clearly Lowrie is the better option vs LHP's (a point which we have agreed upon) and the fact that Lowrie has a higher career OPS despite his injured 2008 being included in the data combined with his equal glove to Scutaro and his higher upside is reason enough to have him starting everyday in Boston. Add in that he has a role in Boston's future (be that through trade or contributing to the club directly) and this is an easy call.