Re: No Playoffs 4 out of the 5 Past Years
posted at 7/15/2014 8:52 AM EDT
In response to maxbialystock's comment:
In response to ma6dragon9's comment:
In response to Joebreidey's comment:
[QUOTE]1-On one hand, paying SPs until age 35 is pretty risky. OTOH, what else do you do with the money? Our payroll commitment is $78M next year, and $15M for 2016. Rookies are always underpaid, so even if Lester winds up overpaid, we can still afford it.
2-I'm a big fan of a good farm, but you still need veteran leadership.
3-And it is not like the old when you could bring up 6-8 kids and have a good team for 10-12 years. For a team like ours, you have to be looking at winning every year.
4-And your desire to go with the kids, and also wanting to sign Salty to a l/t contract, are contradictory.
1) Having money shouldn't equate NEEDING to spend it. That thinking led to Crawford. Being able to spend money is nice...I NEVER, as a fan, feel like they should just pile money until they hit some minimum payroll number. They did that coming into 2013 and I RIPPED them for it...and they got away with it because of outside circumstance.
2) Agreed. That good leadership could be Pedroia, Lackey and Ortiz. You just need a few solid ones, not a lot.
3) I agree with looking at winning every year. Expecting it, however, is a different story. Feeling ENTITLED to it, which I believe a lot of fans have gotten to that point, is disgusting. Sometimes you have to take a step back, and Sox have not been willing to do this since Theo tried in 2010, and the fans and media's heads all fking exploded when he said "bridge".
4) Don't agree. Satly's contract, as it sits, is easily movable. He was a clubhouse leader, community giver, and had earned the trust and respect of the pitching staff. Mia is currently very happy to have him if you read any articles. He could've held down the position all year and not necessitate a mid-season purge. It may seem contradictory on the surface, but the devil is in the details.
Your item 1) is a stunner and calls into question anything you say about 2014. Why? Because you admit you predicted a disastrous 2013 campaign--coming as it did after a losing season, 2012--and were completely wrong. Now you want us to believe that 2013 was entirely blind stupid luck and everyone should have seen it.
I have not problems with 2) or 3).
But 4) blows my mind because you can't convince me that benching Saltalamacchia wasn't the key to beating the Cardinals 4 games to 2 in the WS. Salty was outplayed by a 38 year old part-timer, but also one (Ross) who was a much better fit. Salty vs. Pierzynski, I agree, the edge goes to Salty, but the Salty bridge was burned in the 2013 postseason, especially with not one but two good catchers--Vazquez and Swihart--coming up through the minors.
One final thought. I have been a Sox fan since 1949 and believe now is the best time period to be a Sox fan, even when they miss the playoffs "4 out of the 5 Past Years." This is not only true because of the team's success during the John Henry era--way, way, way, way better than the Tom Yawkey racist era--but also true because I can get all the games on TV while living in another part of the country.
Hey, a real comment!
1) I don't think it was purely lucky...but the bombing gave the extra motivation teams are always looking for. EVERYTHING went right for them. We can agree to disagree, but my feeling truly is that, without the bombing, 2013 looks a lot more like 2012 and 2014. That's my opinion.
4) You can't convince me benching Salty and playing Ross WAS the difference. No single guy was the difference. Was the relationship destroyed at that point? Quite possibly, and if so, they did what they needed to do. Vazquez and Swihart have proven nothing. I have no problem running them out there, but there are no guarantees with prospects. JBJ looked unstoppable, then hopeless, now looks OK. Boegarts is in a horrificly long slump. Vazquez looks good now, but may look awful in June of 2015. We don't know. How's going t o be the backup? Can Ross even fill that role anymore? So, for 2015, the Sox will be running 2 new catchers out there. That's 3 years in a row they've basically done this and it is HORRIBLE for a pitching staff. Pitching staffs love continuity and the Sox have willingly gone the opposite route.
Signing Lester basically means you HAVE to bring Ross back, as we've seen how picky Lester can be with his batterymate. So you are now carrying a personal catcher on your 25 man roster who really doesn't deserve to me a major leaguer. Not a good way to do business in my estimation.