In response to southpaw777's comment:

wouldnt that make him the ace of this rotation?

In response to softlaw2's comment:

He was a good pitcher on a bad team that has never happened before? I thought you said pitching doesn't matter? Also what othe. Than two starts in Texas make you think he is a bad pitcher?

Blame others for the bad team? I blame Dumpster, since he was a high paid veteran who is supposed to lead. I never said "pitching doesn't matter". I said it's the game logs and the overall staff per game performance and the construction of the roster for home park and division is more important than blowing a bunch of money on 2nd and 3rd rate bums like Dumpster.

In response to softlaw2's comment:

Dumpster (if you came up with that name, I did it too, independently) is mediocre to poor. He is also apparently not a great leader. Hard to blame a zebra for having stripes.

In response to softlaw2's comment:

He did lead he had an ERA under 4 4 of the last 5 years. What should have done played LF on days he wasn't pitching?

He did lead he had an ERA under 4 4 of the last 5 years

In the NL, that's hardly a past worth boasting about. As for leading, veterans lead by their own performance and demanding individual player accountability for performance and effort. It's obvious why mercenary dumpster is a big "whoozer". Team success should be a critical factor before unloading a ton of money on old veterans like Dumpster.

In response to softlaw2's comment:

No it shouldn't. You can't make up things like he is not a leader to convince yourself you are not wrong. He is a great teammate. He is a bit of the class clown type. What more could he done with the Cubs, he had an ERA in the 2's. It was a team dumping everyone they could. Should the Red Sox not have trade for Beckett and Lowell because the lowly Marlins traded them? You are foundamental lacking any logic or reason here.

He is a great teammate. He is a bit of the class clown type. What more could he done with the Cubs, he had an ERA in the 2's. It was a team dumping everyone they could. Should the Red Sox not have trade for Beckett and Lowell because the lowly Marlins traded them

You made my point. It's about team performance, for veterans.  Dumpster had plenty of time to be an important part of a winning baseball team. That never happened. "Class clown" is just a personality. It's about winning, serious or pranksters aside.

Beckett and Lowell came as proven winners on the biggest stage. And they weren't as old as Dumpster. Beckett was poisoned by big contracts and entitlement union personality disorder. They had their chance to get rid of him when the signs were clear. He should have been out the door long before they threw him in with AGon to get rid of Crawbust and Beckett.

If the Red Sox had a GM with basic common sense, the results would be exponentially better. Labor isn't hard to evaluate, from year to year.

In response to softlaw2's comment:

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He is a great teammate. He is a bit of the class clown type. What more could he done with the Cubs, he had an ERA in the 2's. It was a team dumping everyone they could. Should the Red Sox not have trade for Beckett and Lowell because the lowly Marlins traded them

You made my point. It's about team performance, for veterans.  Dumpster had plenty of time to be an important part of a winning baseball team. That never happened. "Class clown" is just a personality. It's about winning, serious or pranksters aside.

Beckett and Lowell came as proven winners on the biggest stage. And they weren't as old as Dumpster. Beckett was poisoned by big contracts and entitlement union personality disorder. They had their chance to get rid of him when the signs were clear. He should have been out the door long before they threw him in with AGon to get rid of Crawbust and Beckett.

If the Red Sox had a GM with basic common sense, the results would be exponentially better. Labor isn't hard to evaluate, from year to year.

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Veteran can't be held responsible for the performance of the front office. He can't make bad players good. 

 

As for your last comment, you are so jealous of players salaries, you can never be happy. Even if they win they are winning with player making more than you.

Veteran can't be held responsible for the performance of the front office. He can't make bad players good. 

 In fact, a veteran is reponsible for the performance of the labor that is being paid to perform. The GM is accoutable for acquiring or extending bums like Dumpster with loser resumes.

As for your last comment, you are so jealous of players salaries, you can never be happy. Even if they win they are winning with player making more than you

Hard to be jealous when I make more money than "players salaries". I'm happy, sports and entertainment is a business that is hobby of mine. What makes me happy is winning teams and teams who return equal or better value.

What makes you happy? Teams that spend 150 million plus a year and don''t win a single playoff game in a half a decade?

I think the key for Dempster is to keep his pitch counts low.  If he gives us 5-6 solid innings every outing, he'll be very valuable at the back of the rotation.  If we ask too much from him, we're setting everybody up for failure.

In a nutshell, he can be what Freddy Garcia was to the 2011 Yankees, and better.

My hope for Dumpster is an ERA around 4.5 and a full season of starter innings for the 13.25 million. That's not very good for 13.25 million, but it would be a huge improvement from Crawford and Ellsbury and nearly 30 million for 2012. Baby steps.

In response to softlaw2's comment:

Your first two sentences did not make sense. Are having a stroke? You said you are a lawyer that means you have some money but I highly doubt that you make make that much. A good lawyer in a state with a low COL like NC is what about 100000 and the average ML is 3.5 mil. So you would have to making 3500 times more than most in your position. So let's stop playing pretend here, it just doesn't make sense.

What makes mean happy is a team trying to do better. A team that is going to compete for a playoff stop. A team that could have pocketed the cash until the kids are ready like the Mets but decided to make a team competitive. I can't blame Cherington for the action of Epstien trying to please an ownership wanting sexy players.

My money is mostly private property inherited from many years of my angry old white male ancestors making "filthy profits" outside of federal "social justice". It makes more than "the salaries of these players", combined. I consider myself as a good a citizen as the poor minority who will save the taxpayers money if the body politic offers State daycare, I mean pre-school to his children. I differ from Buffet in that I believe in private property and federalism as set forth in the text of the Constitution. What I find laughable about Buffet's political nonsense is that he hasn't simply gone to the Burueau of the Public Debt and clicked on that donation to pay the debt bar and paid all those taxes that he says he should be paying  so that he doesn't pay a lower tax rate. (Buffet likes to say "lower taxes" than my Secretary because he's a politically affected liar) Buffet's claim that "the rich need to pay more taxes to improve the morale of the lower economic federally undefined strata classes" is about making Buffet feel better about himself. In reality, he's already paying a fortune in taxes but isn't going to pay any effective higher rates because his money will grow inside pass through entities. Buffet feels guilty about he and his ancestors past during segragation and the world wide instituion of slavery, so he's allowing himself to be a prop for the Leftist puppet Obama. Kind of like that female police officer who was wounded during "workplace violence" at Fort Hood, standing as one of Obama's Statist props at a past State of Union speech. She nows says she's unemployed and Obama lied to her about the victims being taken care of. Maybe Warren Buffet will move swiftly into action after he finishes closing on that food company acquisition that includes a commercial branded tomato paste. You know, to improve her morale.

Every team "competes for a playoff spot every year", except that nearly every team isn't spending in the 150 million or plus range a year on labor costs. I'm for no limit on what the Red Sox can spend, but I'm not happy when labor returns an embarrassing value in the professional team sport of winning playoff games and being an authentic conteder for championships. Labor hiring value success or failure rests with middle management, until such time as upper management proves it is incomptent to hire competent middle management. I believe it's now at the point where patience for middle management should be a vote of zero confidence and upper management is rapidly approaching a vote of questionable confidence. I still have confidence in ownership, as I did when they took over ownership in what seems like a long time ago.    

They had their chance to get rid of him when the signs were clear. He should have been out the door long before they threw him in with AGon to get rid of Crawbust and Beckett.

Yes, they threw Beckett in the trade to dump Beckett.

Do you ever bother to read your own jibberish?