Re: Not Frugal Enough
posted at 12/15/2012 4:17 PM EST
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The only way i see us being better then last year is if some of our old players pick it up a notch.
that was the only way we would get better in 2013 regardless of who we signed/traded for.
a return to form from our existing stars and good health will get us the biggest jump in the standings... not signing hamilton and grienke.
Exactly. The talent is there. If the regulars (Pedey, Papi, Ells, Middlebrooks) can stay healthy to go along with the new additions, are offense should be top 5 again.
Lester, Buch, lackey are all capable of 15 wins. Doubie finished strong this year and should be expected to improve more. Dempster started out rough with Texas, but then got things back on track. If he gives us 12 wins and a 4.50 era or lower Im good.
Now I know all this probably wont happen, but With the new additions, including manager/coaching staff, I think the talent is there to make the playoffs. I dont expect it, but wont be surprised either if they do get there.
The ALE is up for grabs right now. theres no clear leader this year.
I agree that this team should be competitive next year if they have an "average injury" type season. One guy who has covered all four major sports for last 20 years told me he's never seen a clubhouse so "dysfunctional" in any sport, and he said it started in Spring Training. Clubhouse chemistry is more important nowadays because guys are making way too much money. 40 years ago, most guys were playing for their next contract so there was no "I don't care, I'm still getting paid" attitudes. Some of the stories were pretty enlightening about what went on, and there will be a book or two about this past season down the road.
Cant wait to hear some of those stories.
Clubhouse chemistry is very important and part of a teams success. Its no wonder the team moral was in the toilet last year. I expect a lot better this year. can they win 90 games? I dont see why not. Will they? We'll find that out soon enough.
Agreed...It sounded to me like plan A was flip Ellsbury in a deal for Cliff Lee and sign Hamilton to a high $, 3 year deal with some options, which is why they went after Victorino. If they were able to move Ellsbury, they could move Victorino to center. If not, Victorino gives them the kind of right field defense they haven't had since Drew was here. Also, of all the free agents they signed, none of them cost a draft pick, and all of them would have value at the deadline if they are out of it. Considering what was available, it's seems to be a sound plan. If they are competitive, which some people in baseball expect them to be, then great, but if not, they should get a decent return on some of these guys.
Few other things:
It seems a lot of people are high on Steven Wright, the knuckleballer they got for Lars Anderson.
The Sox had no interest in McCarthy, just didn't think he was worth the risk, his medicals aren't great and the line drive to the head was a concern. They wanted a guy who they could count on for innings.
One writer called Josh Beckett a "despicable human being."
Adrian Gonzalez wanted out of here badly and claimed he was "pressured" into signing a long term deal. They were going to grant his wish this off season even if the Dodgers didn't take that deal in August.
A few people think Lackey will have a very good year, now that he is healthy and seems determined to resurrect his career.
A lot of people in the Sox Front Office think Ellsbury is too soft (not the phrase that was used) and they don't have a lot of interest in bringing him back at all. He was "very available" in Nashville, but they'll gladly let him play for a contract and take the pick. If they're out of it at the deadline, he'll obviously be a strong trade candidate. A lot can obviously change, though.
Youk was "definitely" not coming back. Too much water under the bridge there.