NOW is the time to strike for Bailey
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Re: NOW is the time to strike for Bailey
posted at 12/22/2011 10:05 PM EST
- redsoxpride34
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a's expected to move bailey soon, sox making a push, angels lurking, rays involved, lets hope ben doesnt let us down this time. -
Re: NOW is the time to strike for Bailey
posted at 12/22/2011 10:10 PM EST
- NegativeTrollsAbound
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Cafardo just made it seem not likely for Bailey. What will they do? -
Re: NOW is the time to strike for Bailey
posted at 12/22/2011 10:17 PM EST
- jasko2248
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In response to "Re: NOW is the time to strike for Bailey":Cafardo just made it seem not likely for Bailey. What will they do? Posted by NegativeTrollsAboundI say that if we don't allow Billy Beane to rape our farm system for a relief pitcher, as fans, we should not watch a game next summer... -
Re: NOW is the time to strike for Bailey
posted at 12/22/2011 10:33 PM EST
- redsoxpride34
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where did u guy see anything about cafardo not liking our chances? last i heard sox are makin a push for bailey -
Re: NOW is the time to strike for Bailey
posted at 12/22/2011 10:42 PM EST
- ctredsoxfanhugh
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I like Bailey....but it appears the A's are getting some BIG returns for their arms which is making me think their asking prices are really high and/or they are great at negotiating......kinda making me want Bailey less. -
Re: NOW is the time to strike for Bailey
posted at 12/22/2011 10:52 PM EST
- NegativeTrollsAbound
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Cafardo was on NESN for an interview and said that. Not to be a naysayer, he said they will wait until prices to come down etc. -
Re: NOW is the time to strike for Bailey
posted at 12/22/2011 10:57 PM EST
- DaBlade
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I would not give up Middlebrooks, Lavarnway, Brentz and Ranaudo. I would sign a player like Francisco Cordero because I want to keep my young guns to bolster our team in the comming years. I wouldn't trade for Bailey especially. Closers even good ones are not as valuable trade wise as a decent starter. -
Re: NOW is the time to strike for Bailey
posted at 12/22/2011 11:15 PM EST
- ctredsoxfanhugh
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Madson is still out there right???? the market for teams looking for a closer is actually not that huge if I'm not mistaken. So the Sox may be willing to pay some extra Tax if they get a good deal on him. I'd still take Bailey for the right price, I'm just not confident we will get it....of course Billy Bean may be on HIGH from massive amounts of talent right now that he will be willing to make a deal (or he will think he can get 4 prospects for anyone)....so I guess that can go either way.
Sox need to do something. I'm confident that there are some internal answers from within, guys who have not contributed yet that can play a big part in the pen (doubront/Wilson/Bowden) But I still think we need one good arm that can close.....if not then we at least need more depth at the starter position because Bard is stayin in the bullpen. -
Re: NOW is the time to strike for Bailey
posted at 12/28/2011 1:53 PM EST
- hill55
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ESPN's Buster Olney tweets that the A's will likely trade Andrew Bailey to the Red Sox or the Rangers:
http://twitter.com/#!/Buster_ESPN/status/152096686733393920 -
Re: NOW is the time to strike for Bailey
posted at 12/28/2011 2:01 PM EST
- seannybboi
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I doubt Sox losing out on Bailey by Rangers. I just hope Sox don't send A's Middlebrooks or Lavarnway.. -
Re: NOW is the time to strike for Bailey
posted at 12/28/2011 2:03 PM EST
- georom4
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one more piece of the pitching puzzle to move Beckett! -
Re: NOW is the time to strike for Bailey
posted at 12/28/2011 2:13 PM EST
- Alibiike
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We have a closer.......Melancholy. Ben knows what he's doing so quit playing GM. -
Re: NOW is the time to strike for Bailey
posted at 12/28/2011 2:22 PM EST
- moonslav59
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Let's give 'em 4 A's and a B for Bailey:Anderson, Albers, Atchison, and Bowden
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Re: NOW is the time to strike for Bailey
posted at 12/28/2011 2:26 PM EST
- georom4
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four bums...yea Im sure the A's are dying to get Bodwen and Albers in the same deal...lololol
maybe we can give them darnell, jd, and wake too! -
Re: NOW is the time to strike for Bailey
posted at 12/28/2011 3:04 PM EST
- UticaClub
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In Response to Re: NOW is the time to strike for Bailey:When was the last time Oakland traded a pitcher, and he got better after the trade? If 25 saves a year or so is the best Bailey can manage, and with his injury history, I'd much rather the Sox use up all their money on Madson and figure out RF in the spring.
Posted by parhunter1
I agree. -
Re: NOW is the time to strike for Bailey
posted at 12/28/2011 3:28 PM EST
- westcoastsox9
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In Response to Re: NOW is the time to strike for Bailey:Let's give 'em 4 A's and a B for Bailey: Anderson, Albers, Atchison, and Bowden
Posted by moonslav59
Moon, who is the 4th "A" ??? Alibiike?? -
Re: NOW is the time to strike for Bailey
posted at 12/28/2011 3:47 PM EST
- ma6dragon9
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In Response to Re: NOW is the time to strike for Bailey:When was the last time Oakland traded a pitcher, and he got better after the trade? If 25 saves a year or so is the best Bailey can manage, and with his injury history, I'd much rather the Sox use up all their money on Madson and figure out RF in the spring.
Posted by parhunter1
You prefer Madson's lack of a closing history over Bailey's questionable health? Seems comparable to me.
If Bailey didn't have injury questions, he'd have close to 100 saves in that same 3 year span, and command a MUCH higher price.
Sometimes you take a chance on a player. Given his age, ability, and proven success, he's the type of guy I'd take a chance on. Kind of like taking a TE who had serious back injury concerns in the 2nd round. -
Re: NOW is the time to strike for Bailey
posted at 12/28/2011 3:53 PM EST
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If there is going to be a trade for Bailey it will incclude Melancon, because of his ability and time under team control, in addition Reddick or Kalish and a pitching prospect.I think they are keeping Ranaudo and Wilson to be part of the Garza proposal. -
Re: NOW is the time to strike for Bailey
posted at 12/28/2011 4:52 PM EST
- jasko2248
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In response to "Re: NOW is the time to strike for Bailey":If there is going to be a trade for Bailey it will incclude Melancon, because of his ability and time under team control, in addition Reddick or Kalish and a pitching prospect. I think they are keeping Ranaudo and Wilson to be part of the Garza proposal. Posted by MadMc44Why would they ever include Melancon in a trade for Bailey?! Plus you want to include one of their young outfielders AND a pitching prospect? How does that help them? Is Bailey that much better than Melancon? By the way, there is no way they are getting both Bailey AND Garza. -
Re: NOW is the time to strike for Bailey
posted at 12/28/2011 5:01 PM EST
- 86redsox
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Q: Does anybody want madson????? Fielder to the Rangers would crank up that angels/rangers thing. -
Re: NOW is the time to strike for Bailey
posted at 12/28/2011 5:01 PM EST
- michaelsjr
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Re: NOW is the time to strike for Bailey
posted at 12/28/2011 5:35 PM EST
- AL34
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They trade for a guy with an arm injury and another left handed hitting outfielder. Please explain, Ryan Madson would have been a better signing.In Response to NOW is the time to strike for Bailey:Beane has now dealt Cahill AND Gonzalez, Bailey seemingly being the last piece he will likely move. He's 27, isn't a free agent until 2015, has three seasons under his belt, all as the closer, and has poster 75 save sin those 3 years for a mediocre team. His WHIP over that span is 0.954 after posting a career worst of 1.10 last year. He is arbitration eligible for the first time after this coming season, and everyone knows the As don't pay. The numbers are all their, the age is right, the contract is good, I just don't know how much Beane is looking for. He could certainly hold back until the All Star break and see who NEEDS a closer, but I would make a strong push, right now, for a guy I believe to be among the elite closers in baseball. It's worth giving up something knowing they'll control him for at least 3 seasons, at which point he'll be the same age as Pap is now. I wouldn't overpay in prospects, but I would crtainly be interested to find out what may get it done. If it's close to the deals teams have been getting for starters, however, count me out. Also, maybe Beane's guard is a little down! He just got a good return for Gio, and already got a nice haul for Cahill, maybe he'll mess up! Hahaha, ok, maybe not, but I like Bailey. Simply as a player, I like him FAR better than anything on the market right now, and I'd rather have him than some of the guys already signed (Bell, Nathan).
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Re: NOW is the time to strike for Bailey
posted at 12/28/2011 5:44 PM EST
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In Response to Re: NOW is the time to strike for Bailey:They trade for a guy with an arm injury and another left handed hitting outfielder. Please explain, Ryan Madson would have been a better signing. In Response to NOW is the time to strike for Bailey :
Posted by AL34
Happy New Year, AL . Bailey's a solid closer, Sweeney will probably take over for Kalish in Pawtucket. The fact Bailey was acquired in a trade,as opposed to a FA, ie Madson, leaves more money to sign a starter. Good trade IMO -
Re: NOW is the time to strike for Bailey
posted at 12/28/2011 6:16 PM EST
- ma6dragon9
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AWESOME deal!
An OFer who wasn't in the long term plans, and two loooooow level prospects for a solid bullpen arm (when healthy you nay-sayers).
Who knows why Sweeney came back as well, part of another potential deal? A betyter 4th OFer than McDonald? I don't know, he wasn't a main par,t and I don't mind if they cut him and are left with Only Bailey.
Awesome trade. If he stays healthy, this will be a HUGE pickup and steal. A back end of Melancon/Bailey is about as good as it comes, mark my words.
Now Bard and Aceves can compete for a spot in the rotation without crippling the Pen.
This is the most exciting move the Sox have made in a few years to me. Yes, more exciting to me than overpaying for Crawford. Ok, not as exciting as Gonzalez, but people were waiting for that for 2 years, so it stole some of the thunder.
I'm THRILLED!
I'll eat my words if he gets hurt, but if healthy, they just got a 27 year old QUALITY closer for pennies on the dollar.
WIN! -
Re: NOW is the time to strike for Bailey
posted at 12/28/2011 6:17 PM EST
- ma6dragon9
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This was FAR LESS than people were predicting to give up. What a score!