Official Sizemore VS Ellsbury head-to-head thread for 162 games

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    Re: Official Sizemore VS Ellsbury head-to-head thread for 162 games

    In response to pumpsie-green's comment:

     

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    Game 1:

    Sizemore: at Baltimore (3/31), 2 for 4 with HR (1 R & 1 RBI) 0 BB 1 SO Team lost

    Ellsbury: at Houston (4/1), 0 for 4, 1 R 1 BB Team lost

     

    **Cumulative Score (Thru Game 7)

    Sizemore 1

    Ellsbury 5

     

    Rules:

    1. If the player is unable to play the next game for whatever reasons, it's an automatic loss since he is unable to help the team.  If both players are unable to play their next games, that game doesn't count.  

    2. If both players put up similar numbers but not identical, followings will be the factors to determine the winner.

    (Team's win, contribution to team's win, winning HR, hit, R etc.)

    3. If both players put up identicak numbers, Rule# 2 factors will be applied to determine the winner

    4. W will be given strictly to the player with better stats.  Team win contribution comes into play whenever it's difficult to determine the winner by their in-game stats.  

    ** Feel free to update whenever I skip or unable to update.   

     

     



    With all do respect this thread was a good idea but meaningless when you really think about it.  Ells is making 24mil more than Grady so we already have the best deal for the club if his health holds up.  You also have to factor in the rust on Grady compared to a player in Ells who has been playing each of the past three years. 

     

     

    Grady and the Sox win regardless of final Stats this season.  Even more so if JBJ and Grady both have good years.  Then we have two solid all round players making 23 plus less than one.

     



    I wouldn't say its "meaningless", but you make a good point about VALUE. At $24M more than Sizemore is getting paid, its going to be very difficult for Ellsbury to represent better VALUE than Sizemore if both guys stay on the field, unless Sizemore really flops. I think you build the bulk of your club on high value players and splurge on a couple of stars (Ortiz, Lackey, Lester, for example). Thats how you build a consistent winner IMO.

     



    No disrepect intended Pumpsie. maybe meaningless was a bit harsh sorry.  I just feel if Grady stays healthy and productive we already have a win.  If both Grady and JBJ have nice seasons without tying up an injury prone OF long term for 25mil it's a win win.

    When you measure Ells and Grady you should probably include JBJ in the equation because he was supposed to replace Ells, getting a healthy and productive Grady was just another huge bonus.  It just so happens Grady was chosen to replace Ells in CF at the moment.  We will know more in a year or two but regardless we still have plenty of talent and cash for further upgrades. 

    The Yankees don't have that luxury!

     

     
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    Re: Official Sizemore VS Ellsbury head-to-head thread for 162 games

    Let's wait till season end and have fun right now.  This thread is just for fun comparing two great CFers with great stories for themselves and Sox fans.  I've mentioned when I began this thread that this is strictly head to head stats match up.  We all know they play against different teams and pitchers in different ballparks and everything.  Let's just watch how they play game by game and judge after the season, or at least until one of them goes down.  

     
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    Re: Official Sizemore VS Ellsbury head-to-head thread for 162 games

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    Game 8:

    Sizemore

    Ellsbury: vs Orioles (4/8), 1 for 1, 1 R Game in progress

     

    **Cumulative Score (Thru Game 7)

    Sizemore 1

    Ellsbury 5

     

    Rules:

    1. If the player is unable to play the next game for whatever reasons, it's an automatic loss since he is unable to help the team.  If both players are unable to play their next games, that game doesn't count.  

    2. If both players put up similar numbers but not identical, followings will be the factors to determine the winner.

    (Team's win, contribution to team's win, winning HR, hit, R etc.)

    3. If both players put up identicak numbers, Rule# 2 factors will be applied to determine the winner

    4. W will be given strictly to the player with better stats.  Team win contribution comes into play whenever it's difficult to determine the winner by their in-game stats.  

    ** Feel free to update whenever I skip or unable to update.  

     

     This was over before it started. Ellsbury (batting 3rd) has 2 more hits this afternoon (game is on/y 1/2 over, hitting .390 with an OBP of nearly .500. He's in the prime of his career! I'm not sure what there is to compare

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    Re: Official Sizemore VS Ellsbury head-to-head thread for 162 games

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    A healthy Sizemore outperforms Elles every time. 

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    And what is trhat wonderful stuff you've been smoking?

     
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    Re: Official Sizemore VS Ellsbury head-to-head thread for 162 games

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    Game 8:

    Sizemore

    Ellsbury: vs Orioles (4/8), 2 for 2, 1 R Game in progress

     

    **Cumulative Score (Thru Game 7)

    Sizemore 1

    Ellsbury 5

     

    Rules:

    1. If the player is unable to play the next game for whatever reasons, it's an automatic loss since he is unable to help the team.  If both players are unable to play their next games, that game doesn't count.  

    2. If both players put up similar numbers but not identical, followings will be the factors to determine the winner.

    (Team's win, contribution to team's win, winning HR, hit, R etc.)

    3. If both players put up identicak numbers, Rule# 2 factors will be applied to determine the winner

    4. W will be given strictly to the player with better stats.  Team win contribution comes into play whenever it's difficult to determine the winner by their in-game stats.  

    ** Feel free to update whenever I skip or unable to update.  

     

     

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    Getting more one-sided by the minute. Going into the sith, in NY, Ellsburya has2 singles, a double, a steal of thired and scored from 1st on a double into the LF corner. This is like comparing Joe Cronin with Don Buddin,

     
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    Re: Official Sizemore VS Ellsbury head-to-head thread for 162 games

    In response to bosoxmal's comment:

     

    In response to seannybboi's comment:

     

    Game 8:

    Sizemore

    Ellsbury: vs Orioles (4/8), 2 for 2, 1 R Game in progress

     

    **Cumulative Score (Thru Game 7)

    Sizemore 1

    Ellsbury 5

     

    Rules:

    1. If the player is unable to play the next game for whatever reasons, it's an automatic loss since he is unable to help the team.  If both players are unable to play their next games, that game doesn't count.  

    2. If both players put up similar numbers but not identical, followings will be the factors to determine the winner.

    (Team's win, contribution to team's win, winning HR, hit, R etc.)

    3. If both players put up identicak numbers, Rule# 2 factors will be applied to determine the winner

    4. W will be given strictly to the player with better stats.  Team win contribution comes into play whenever it's difficult to determine the winner by their in-game stats.  

    ** Feel free to update whenever I skip or unable to update.  

     

     

     




    Getting more one-sided by the minute. Going into the sith, in NY, Ellsburya has2 singles, a double, a steal of thired and scored from 1st on a double into the LF corner. This is like comparing Joe Cronin with Don Buddin,

     

     



    Off of Chen,

     

    Baltimore Pitching

    Baltimore Pitching

    Pitchers IP H R ER BB SO HR ERA Chen, W 5.0 9 4 4 0 3 1 6.75
     
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    Re: Official Sizemore VS Ellsbury head-to-head thread for 162 games

    In response to J-BAY's comment:
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    In response to bosoxmal's comment:
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    In response to seannybboi's comment:
    [QUOTE]

    Game 8:

    Sizemore

    Ellsbury: vs Orioles (4/8), 2 for 2, 1 R Game in progress

     

    **Cumulative Score (Thru Game 7)

    Sizemore 1

    Ellsbury 5

     

    Rules:

    1. If the player is unable to play the next game for whatever reasons, it's an automatic loss since he is unable to help the team.  If both players are unable to play their next games, that game doesn't count.  

    2. If both players put up similar numbers but not identical, followings will be the factors to determine the winner.

    (Team's win, contribution to team's win, winning HR, hit, R etc.)

    3. If both players put up identicak numbers, Rule# 2 factors will be applied to determine the winner

    4. W will be given strictly to the player with better stats.  Team win contribution comes into play whenever it's difficult to determine the winner by their in-game stats.  

    ** Feel free to update whenever I skip or unable to update.  

     

     

    [/QUOTE]


    Getting more one-sided by the minute. Going into the sith, in NY, Ellsburya has 2 singles, a double, a steal of third and scored from 1st on a double into the LF corner. This is like comparing Joe Cronin with Don Buddin,

    [/QUOTE]

    off of Chen. Enough said

    [/QUOTE] well J, it's not like we picked their starter Tongue Out 

     
  8. You have chosen to ignore posts from jete02fan. Show jete02fan's posts

    Re: Official Sizemore VS Ellsbury head-to-head thread for 162 games

    In response to bosoxmal's comment:
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    In response to seannybboi's comment:
    [QUOTE]

    Game 8:

    Sizemore

    Ellsbury: vs Orioles (4/8), 2 for 2, 1 R Game in progress

     

    **Cumulative Score (Thru Game 7)

    Sizemore 1

    Ellsbury 5

     

    Rules:

    1. If the player is unable to play the next game for whatever reasons, it's an automatic loss since he is unable to help the team.  If both players are unable to play their next games, that game doesn't count.  

    2. If both players put up similar numbers but not identical, followings will be the factors to determine the winner.

    (Team's win, contribution to team's win, winning HR, hit, R etc.)

    3. If both players put up identicak numbers, Rule# 2 factors will be applied to determine the winner

    4. W will be given strictly to the player with better stats.  Team win contribution comes into play whenever it's difficult to determine the winner by their in-game stats.  

    ** Feel free to update whenever I skip or unable to update.  

     

     

    [/QUOTE]


    Getting more one-sided by the minute. Going into the sith, in NY, Ellsburya has2 singles, a double, a steal of thired and scored from 1st on a double into the LF corner. This is like comparing Joe Cronin with Don Buddin,

    [/QUOTE] i think Ells scored because Beltran's double kind of knocked around in the corner

     
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    Re: Official Sizemore VS Ellsbury head-to-head thread for 162 games

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    off of Chen. Enough said

    well J, it's not like we picked their starter Tongue Out 

    [/QUOTE]

    I wouldn't put it past you! Tongue OutWink

     
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    off of Chen. Enough said

     

    [/QUOTE] well J, it's not like we picked their starter Tongue Out 

     

    [/QUOTE]

    I wouldn't put it past you! Tongue OutWink

    [/QUOTE] if it were up to me the last guy in the pen would be starting all three games :-)


     
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    off of Chen. Enough said

     

    [/QUOTE] well J, it's not like we picked their starter Tongue Out 

     

    [/QUOTE]

    I wouldn't put it past you! Tongue OutWink

    [/QUOTE] if it were up to me the last guy in the pen would be starting all three games :-)


    [/QUOTE]


    LOL

     
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    Re: Official Sizemore VS Ellsbury head-to-head thread for 162 games

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    Come August and Sizemore will be a distant memory for Saux fans. He will be on a cruise spending some of that $600,000. 

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    Right, and there's no chance Ellsbury will hit the DL for a stretch this year.  None.  He'll be your new iron man. 

     

     
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    Re: Official Sizemore VS Ellsbury head-to-head thread for 162 games

    Who won the game today?  The O's 14-5.

    That's all that counts. Win Baby.

    If Ells bats .400 with an OBP of .500 and they miss the playoffs who cares

    about his stats. Who cares about his $23M+. They will probably trade for Pap

    to close and make a move for LaRoche as their new  1 B.

     

     

     
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    Re: Official Sizemore VS Ellsbury head-to-head thread for 162 games

    ouch!!..Yanks taken to the woodshed today..14-5 O's Embarassed

     
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    In response to MadMc44's comment:
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    Who won the game today?  The O's 14-5.

    That's all that counts. Win Baby.

    If Ells bats .400 with an OBP of .500 and they miss the playoffs who cares

    about his stats. Who cares about his $23M+. They will probably trade for Pap

    to close and make a move for LaRoche as their new  1 B.

     

     

    [/QUOTE] LOL..madmc44..i was with you up til Paps Tongue Out 


     
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    Re: Official Sizemore VS Ellsbury head-to-head thread for 162 games

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    Come August and Sizemore will be a distant memory for Saux fans. He will be on a cruise spending some of that $600,000. 

    [/QUOTE]

    Right, and there's no chance Ellsbury will hit the DL for a stretch this year.  None.  He'll be your new iron man. 

     

    [/QUOTE]

    I think its Pike HFX. Here just to flame and incite.

     
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    Who won the game today?  The O's 14-5.

    That's all that counts. Win Baby.

    If Ells bats .400 with an OBP of .500 and they miss the playoffs who cares

    about his stats. Who cares about his $23M+. They will probably trade for Pap

    to close and make a move for LaRoche as their new  1 B.

     

     

    [/QUOTE] LOL..madmc44..i was with you up til Paps Tongue Out 


    [/QUOTE]

    Jete I hope it doesn't happen--Pap loves the big stage--it doesn't get much bigger than the Stadium. The Phillies would probably take a PTBNL. Good luck on the season.

     
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    In response to MadMc44's comment:
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    In response to jete02fan's comment:
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    In response to MadMc44's comment:
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    Who won the game today?  The O's 14-5.

    That's all that counts. Win Baby.

    If Ells bats .400 with an OBP of .500 and they miss the playoffs who cares

    about his stats. Who cares about his $23M+. They will probably trade for Pap

    to close and make a move for LaRoche as their new  1 B.

     

     

    [/QUOTE] LOL..madmc44..i was with you up til Paps Tongue Out 


    [/QUOTE]

    Jete I hope it doesn't happen--Pap loves the big stage--it doesn't get much bigger than the Stadium. The Phillies would probably take a PTBNL. Good luck on the season.

    [/QUOTE]

    Good luck on the season?? Really?? You realize Jete is a Yankee fan. While I would have no problems wishing JETE good luck, there is no reason to wish the Yankees the same good fortune. Every game they play should be just like today...a woodshed job.

     
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    Re: Official Sizemore VS Ellsbury head-to-head thread for 162 games

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    Come August and Sizemore will be a distant memory for Saux fans. He will be on a cruise spending some of that $600,000. 

    [/QUOTE]

    Right, and there's no chance Ellsbury will hit the DL for a stretch this year.  None.  He'll be your new iron man. 

     

    [/QUOTE]

    I think its Pike HFX. Here just to flame and incite.

    [/QUOTE]

    I think it was Babe here to flame and incite.  And gone in a flash.

     

     
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    Re: Official Sizemore VS Ellsbury head-to-head thread for 162 games

    did you just seet the pop fly grady was frozen by and let drop for a run and loaded up the bases? 

    im not sure about this thread...just sayin

     
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    Re: Official Sizemore VS Ellsbury head-to-head thread for 162 games

    They both got terrible jumps on fly balls today.  I would have to say that size got the worse jump by actually going in the wrong direction for a few steps.

     
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    does ells win this right now? a run walked in due to bad grady fielding

     
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    does ells win this right now? a run walked in due to bad grady fielding

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    I'd say Ells is winning.

     
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    Re: Official Sizemore VS Ellsbury head-to-head thread for 162 games

    Game 8


    Grady 3-4 / 1xbh / 1RS

    Ells 3-4 / 1xbh / 1RS / 1SB (winner)

    cant get much closer than this but the SB pushes JE over the top.

    GS 1

    JE 6

    tie 1

     

     
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