OMG! look at the DODGERS first 5 hitters, could that be amongst the BEST in the HISTORY of the game?

  1. This post has been removed.

     
  2. You have chosen to ignore posts from susan250. Show susan250's posts

    Re: OMG! look at the DODGERS first 5 hitters, could that be amongst the BEST in the HISTORY of the game?


    I am not surprised that the Dodgers seem to have turned things around.  With all of that talent you would expect them to be a good team. 

     
  3. You have chosen to ignore posts from Iceman4. Show Iceman4's posts

    Re: OMG! look at the DODGERS first 5 hitters, could that be amongst the BEST in the HISTORY of the game?


    unlimited $$$ helps

     
  4. You have chosen to ignore posts from Iceman4. Show Iceman4's posts

    Re: OMG! look at the DODGERS first 5 hitters, could that be amongst the BEST in the HISTORY of the game?


    don't forget CC will get hurt again..I predict a hammy

    Gonzo will disappear when the playoffs hit.......

    Puig is still a rook.....will he handle the pressure situations?

     
  5. You have chosen to ignore posts from dgalehouse. Show dgalehouse's posts

    Re: OMG! look at the DODGERS first 5 hitters, could that be amongst the BEST in the HISTORY of the game?

    Look for the Dodgers to stay hot and run away with the N.L West. They have an awful lot of talent. Money does indeed talk.

    Stabbed by Foulke.

     
  6. You have chosen to ignore posts from ZILLAGOD. Show ZILLAGOD's posts

    Re: OMG! look at the DODGERS first 5 hitters, could that be amongst the BEST in the HISTORY of the game?

    For one example - 1976 Cinncinati Reds - THE BIG RED MACHINE.

    1.3B PETE ROSE

    2.RF KEN GRIFFEY SR.

    3.2B JOE MORGAN

    4.LF GEORGE FOSTER

    5.C JOHNNY BENCH

    add to that #6 hitter at 1B TONY PEREZ.

    When you say "history of the game" , you have to include teams that played before 2008 or 2009 or whenever you first started watching the game.

    Example #2 :

    The 1953 Brooklyn Dodgers:

    1. 2B JIM GILLIAM

    2.SS PEE WEE REESE

    3.DUKE SNIDER

    4. LF JACKIE ROBINSON

    5.1B GIL HODGES

    add #6 batter C- ROY CAMPANELLA

    1999 CLEVELAND INDIANS

    1.CF KENNY LOFTON

    2.SS OMAR VIZQUEL

    3.2B ROBERTO ALOMAR

    4.RF MANNY RAMIREZ

    5.1B JIM THOME

    Add #6 and #7 DH RICHIE SEXSON AND LF DAVID JUSTICE ( 3B TRAVIS FRYMAN AT #8 WASN'T TOO SHABBY EITHER).

    "All the president is, is a glorified public relations man who spends his time flattering, kissing and kicking people to get them to do what they are supposed to do anyway." - Harry S. Truman

     
  7. You have chosen to ignore posts from craig2174. Show craig2174's posts

    Re: OMG! look at the DODGERS first 5 hitters, could that be amongst the BEST in the HISTORY of the game?

    In response to CommyContrarianOnTwitter's comment:
    [QUOTE]

    starts with carl the craw.. remember him? fuly healthy again and has been his usual spark plug irritant self as a first-rate leadoff man. of course there's the most dangerous rook in years in one puig at second. talkin .600 slugging and well over 1.000 OPS. gonzo (remember him?) has become his old padre clutch self and a solid rock as the prototypical #3 hitter. nothin against pedy but a-gon is who u want in that position. the real though, the guy who makes this entire lineup truly elite and sangerous come playoff time is one HANLEY RAMIREZ... (y cant we get playas like  that?).. perfect blend of left-right balance and skillset diversity. when u have Ethier batting 5th you have a powerful lineup. his bat is in resurgence (4 big hits yesterday).

    all this without their top 3 OF'rs all playin together at the same time. kemp was on fire before his latest ankle issue. no way u sit puig. i can see kemp in left going forward and hitting SIXTH. think about that, the rightful MVP of just 2 years ago batting sixth. would hate to b a pitcher facing those guys. not one jabro in the bunch, each can go deeeep on any pitch. talk about a perfect win-win trade. dodgers wouldnt take it back and nor would we.

    red sox west is kicking the angels all over their bloated  grill on and off the field. these guys have won like 25 of 28 games and are poised to win their DIVISION! plus look at that pitching staff led by kuroda. built to make loud noise in the playoffs as well!



     

    You do realize Kuroda has been a Yankee for a couple years now right?  Try Kershaw

     
  8. You have chosen to ignore posts from RedSoxDOrtiz. Show RedSoxDOrtiz's posts

    Re: OMG! look at the DODGERS first 5 hitters, could that be amongst the BEST in the HISTORY of the game?

    In response to CommyContrarianOnTwitter's comment:

     

    starts with carl the craw.. remember him? fuly healthy again and has been his usual spark plug irritant self as a first-rate leadoff man. of course there's the most dangerous rook in years in one puig at second. talkin .600 slugging and well over 1.000 OPS. gonzo (remember him?) has become his old padre clutch self and a solid rock as the prototypical #3 hitter. nothin against pedy but a-gon is who u want in that position. the real though, the guy who makes this entire lineup truly elite and sangerous come playoff time is one HANLEY RAMIREZ... (y cant we get playas like  that?).. perfect blend of left-right balance and skillset diversity. when u have Ethier batting 5th you have a powerful lineup. his bat is in resurgence (4 big hits yesterday).

    all this without their top 3 OF'rs all playin together at the same time. kemp was on fire before his latest ankle issue. no way u sit puig. i can see kemp in left going forward and hitting SIXTH. think about that, the rightful MVP of just 2 years ago batting sixth. would hate to b a pitcher facing those guys. not one jabro in the bunch, each can go deeeep on any pitch. talk about a perfect win-win trade. dodgers wouldnt take it back and nor would we.

    red sox west is kicking the angels all over their bloated  grill on and off the field. these guys have won like 25 of 28 games and are poised to win their DIVISION! plus look at that pitching staff led by kuroda. built to make loud noise in the playoffs as well!

     



    Dude, I can name multiple Red Sox line ups better in the past decade... let alone the whole league or history of the game.  Pick any five and they are better... including the number 7 hitter Mueller who won a batting title that year.

     

     

    03 Sox

    Damon  750 OPS, 345 OBP, 12 HR, 30 SB

    Nixon  975 OPS, 396 OBP, 28 HR

    Mueller  938 OPS, 398 OBP, 19 HR  (batting title)

    Nomar  870 OPS, 345 OBP, 28 HR, 19 SB

    Manny  1.014 OPS, 427 OBP, 37 HR

    Ortiz 961 OPS, 369 OBP, 31 HR

    Tek 863 OPS, 351 OBP, 25 HR

    Millar  820 OPS, 348 OBP, 25 HR

     

    Even Todd Walker at second wasn't bad that year with a 760 OPS, 333 OBP, 13 HR

     

     

     Crawford  759 OPS, 333 OBP, 5 HR, 10 SB and only 16 RBI... demoted to part time play and is a shell of his former self with no power anymore and never walks

     

    Puig has only 179 at bats in the bigs, ask Iglesias what a small sample size can do for your stats.  That said, so far he has an impressive line of 1.012 OPS (hardly well over a 1.00 OPS), 417 OBP, 9 HR

     

    Gonzo 838 OPS (119 point drop since he was with the sox last year), 356 OBP, 15 HR

     

    Hanley has only 155 at bats, refer to Puig and Iglesias comments.  He is red hot though.  1.126 OPS, 436 OBP, 10 HR

     

     Ethier, pedestrian 765 OPS, 354 OBP, only 7 HR

     

    *** edited to add the stats to compare apples to apples as requested

     
  9. This post has been removed.

     
  10. This post has been removed.

     
  11. This post has been removed.

     
  12. You have chosen to ignore posts from RedSoxDOrtiz. Show RedSoxDOrtiz's posts

    Re: OMG! look at the DODGERS first 5 hitters, could that be amongst the BEST in the HISTORY of the game?

    I edited my post to add the stats of the Dodgers players to show you apples to apples.

     

    The stats for the 03 Sox are from at least 500 at bats for each player, there are two players on the Dodgers that haven't even hit 180 at bats, so it would be impossible for them to get more than like 300-350 at bats in this season.

     

    Many people have a hot start or end to the season.  Doing this feat over 500 at bats is much more difficult than a month or two worth of at bats.  To put it in perspective, Iglesias has 200 at bats and is hitting 343 with a 394 OBP... and we know that is total bull and he will come back to earth.

     

    The Dodgers have a talented team, but not a historically productive team by any means.  

     
  13. You have chosen to ignore posts from BostonTrollSpanker. Show BostonTrollSpanker's posts

    Re: OMG! look at the DODGERS first 5 hitters, could that be amongst the BEST in the HISTORY of the game?


    For a lineup that's never won anything of significance, they are pretty good.

       
     
  14. You have chosen to ignore posts from slomag. Show slomag's posts

    Re: OMG! look at the DODGERS first 5 hitters, could that be amongst the BEST in the HISTORY of the game?

    In response to CommyContrarianOnTwitter's comment:

    In response to RedSoxDOrtiz's comment:

    [QUOTE]

     

    In response to CommyContrarianOnTwitter's comment:

     

    [QUOTE]

     

     

    starts with carl the craw.. remember him? fuly healthy again and has been his usual spark plug irritant self as a first-rate leadoff man. of course there's the most dangerous rook in years in one puig at second. talkin .600 slugging and well over 1.000 OPS. gonzo (remember him?) has become his old padre clutch self and a solid rock as the prototypical #3 hitter. nothin against pedy but a-gon is who u want in that position. the real though, the guy who makes this entire lineup truly elite and sangerous come playoff time is one HANLEY RAMIREZ... (y cant we get playas like  that?).. perfect blend of left-right balance and skillset diversity. when u have Ethier batting 5th you have a powerful lineup. his bat is in resurgence (4 big hits yesterday).

    all this without their top 3 OF'rs all playin together at the same time. kemp was on fire before his latest ankle issue. no way u sit puig. i can see kemp in left going forward and hitting SIXTH. think about that, the rightful MVP of just 2 years ago batting sixth. would hate to b a pitcher facing those guys. not one jabro in the bunch, each can go deeeep on any pitch. talk about a perfect win-win trade. dodgers wouldnt take it back and nor would we.

    red sox west is kicking the angels all over their bloated  grill on and off the field. these guys have won like 25 of 28 games and are poised to win their DIVISION! plus look at that pitching staff led by kuroda. built to make loud noise in the playoffs as well!

     

     



    Dude, I can name multiple Red Sox line ups better in the past decade... let alone the whole league or history of the game.  Pick any five and they are better... including the number 7 hitter Mueller who won a batting title that year.

     

     

     

    03 Sox

    Damon  750 OPS, 345 OBP, 12 HR, 30 SB

    Nixon  975 OPS, 396 OBP, 28 HR

    Mueller  938 OPS, 398 OBP, 19 HR  (batting title)

    Nomar  870 OPS, 345 OBP, 28 HR, 19 SB

    Manny  1.014 OPS, 427 OBP, 37 HR

    Ortiz 961 OPS, 369 OBP, 31 HR

    Tek 863 OPS, 351 OBP, 25 HR

    Millar  820 OPS, 348 OBP, 25 HR

     

    Even Todd Walker at second wasn't bad that year with a 760 OPS, 333 OBP, 13 HR

     

     

     

     

     

     

    [/QUOTE]


    only one guy with over .400 obp.. the dodgers have like 3! its not even close. compare the OPSs.. red sox west > red sox east on paper! of curse we won rings, so... talking PAPER!

     

    [/QUOTE]


    Only Ramirez and Puig have obps over .400, and neither has more than 200 PAs.  Gonzalez is next at .356.  

     
  15. You have chosen to ignore posts from RedSoxDOrtiz. Show RedSoxDOrtiz's posts

    Re: OMG! look at the DODGERS first 5 hitters, could that be amongst the BEST in the HISTORY of the game?

    More teams I can think of

     

    2011 Texas Rangers --  Napoli, Young, Beltre, Hamilton, Kinsler, Cruz

    2011 Sox -- Ells (2nd MVP), Gonzo, Ortiz, Pedroia, Youks

     

    if you want the HISTORY of the game... murderer's row... the first six batters on the Yanks 1927 team lineup: Earle CombsMark KoenigBabe RuthLou GehrigBob Meusel andTony Lazzeri.   That's historically good... the lineup you said is just good and had a good month.

     

     
  16. This post has been removed.

     
  17. You have chosen to ignore posts from RedSoxDOrtiz. Show RedSoxDOrtiz's posts

    Re: OMG! look at the DODGERS first 5 hitters, could that be amongst the BEST in the HISTORY of the game?

    reposting this so you can see all the OBPs... I count two with over a 400 OBP

     

    Crawford  759 OPS, 333 OBP, 5 HR, 10 SB and only 16 RBI... demoted to part time play and is a shell of his former self with no power anymore and never walks

     

    Puig has only 179 at bats in the bigs, ask Iglesias what a small sample size can do for your stats.  That said, so far he has an impressive line of 1.012 OPS (hardly well over a 1.00 OPS), 417 OBP, 9 HR

     

    Gonzo 838 OPS (119 point drop since he was with the sox last year), 356 OBP, 15 HR

     

    Hanley has only 155 at bats, refer to Puig and Iglesias comments.  He is red hot though.  1.126 OPS, 436 OBP, 10 HR

     

     Ethier, pedestrian 765 OPS, 354 OBP, only 7 HR

     
  18. This post has been removed.

     
  19. This post has been removed.

     
  20. You have chosen to ignore posts from RedSoxDOrtiz. Show RedSoxDOrtiz's posts

    Re: OMG! look at the DODGERS first 5 hitters, could that be amongst the BEST in the HISTORY of the game?

    In response to CommyContrarianOnTwitter's comment:

    ok jabros, ON SECOND THOUGHT.. going with the best in the game RIGHT NOW? esp as it pertains to the SOX top 5 guys!

    COMMY COMMY COMMY COMMY CONTRARIAN, HE COMES AND GOES, HE COMES AND GOES... @commyContrarian on Twitter!



    I will give you that they are the hottest hitting team in baseball in July as the 831 team OPS for the month signifies... they were however 23rd in Aprile with a team 691 OPS, 18th May with a team 707 OPS, 17th in June with a 699 team OPS.

     

    The sox had a team 827 OPS last month to lead June and have a 785 team OPS to lead the league for the year.  Don't diss the Sox too much since they have the best record in the game even with Tampa going white hot in the past month and a half.  

     

    The hitting for the Sox is down this month with the lowest month of the year at 750 OPS to rank 9th in baseball at that time.  They also had a slow month in May with a 759 OPS to rank 10th in baseball before getting back up to the 1 spot.  

     

    Overall what I see is consistency with the Sox even though they don't have big names.  They seem to be overachiving, but doing it consistently.

     
  21. This post has been removed.

     
  22. This post has been removed.

     
  23. You have chosen to ignore posts from RedSoxDOrtiz. Show RedSoxDOrtiz's posts

    Re: OMG! look at the DODGERS first 5 hitters, could that be amongst the BEST in the HISTORY of the game?

    In response to CommyContrarianOnTwitter's comment:

    In response to RedSoxDOrtiz's comment:

    [QUOTE]

     

    In response to CommyContrarianOnTwitter's comment:

     

    [QUOTE]

     

     

    ok jabros, ON SECOND THOUGHT.. going with the best in the game RIGHT NOW? esp as it pertains to the SOX top 5 guys!

    COMMY COMMY COMMY COMMY CONTRARIAN, HE COMES AND GOES, HE COMES AND GOES... @commyContrarian on Twitter!

     

     



    I will give you that they are the hottest hitting team in baseball in July as the 831 team OPS for the month signifies... they were however 23rd in Aprile with a team 691 OPS, 18th May with a team 707 OPS, 17th in June with a 699 team OPS.

     

     

     

    The sox had a team 827 OPS last month to lead June and have a 785 team OPS to lead the league for the year.  Don't diss the Sox too much since they have the best record in the game even with Tampa going white hot in the past month and a half.  

     

    The hitting for the Sox is down this month with the lowest month of the year at 750 OPS to rank 9th in baseball at that time.  They also had a slow month in May with a 759 OPS to rank 10th in baseball before getting back up to the 1 spot.  

     

    Overall what I see is consistency with the Sox even though they don't have big names.  They seem to be overachiving, but doing it consistently.

     

    [/QUOTE]


    in judging the dodgers, its PRE-PUIG and POST-PUIG!as the 2004 sox per example were pre nomar and post-nomar! ONCE HIS JONAH ACT WAS PUSHED OVERBOARD, THE ENTIRE TEAM WAS DIFFERENT IN ENERGY, APPROACH AND FOCUS!

     

    [/QUOTE]

    That kid looks like he is for real and has certainly energized the club over there.  Now it is time to have baseball test them by seeing if they can sustain the success.  Many players started out with the blaze of glory like Jacoby's first year in the league and Middlebrooks only to take a step back at some point.  I wonder if the team can still push if Puig goes into a sustained slump.

     
  24. This post has been removed.

     
  25. You have chosen to ignore posts from ZILLAGOD. Show ZILLAGOD's posts

    Re: OMG! look at the DODGERS first 5 hitters, could that be amongst the BEST in the HISTORY of the game?

    Tell me , exactly, what makes a player and L.A. guy?

    Possibly the biggest difference from playing in Boston and going to L.A. is that the fans and media don't attack players and have them for lunch at the first sign of failure, injury or disappointment ( see Clay Buchholz, Julio Lugo, John Lackey , Will Middlebrooks , etc.).

    But this can happen in backwoods markets like Minnesota, Kansas City and Tampa Bay where players can be fugitives from the law, or in witness protection ...and no one would ever find them! The media and fans in those areas treat MLB players like we would regard a lacrosse player.

    So, wouldn't an "L.A. GUY" also thrive in any small market team also, where media attention is sort of ho-hum instead of the intense scrutiny and heat a Boston player comes under the minute he steps onto Fenway Park and is expected to put up All Star numbers?

    "All the president is, is a glorified public relations man who spends his time flattering, kissing and kicking people to get them to do what they are supposed to do anyway." - Harry S. Truman

     
Sections
Shortcuts

Share