One View of 2013 and Beyond

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    In response to moonslav59's comment:
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    ....didn't the silly clown, Stiffy, also call the haul from the Dodgers "farm scraps"?  Now it's "and one of the two next best pitching prospects in either Webster or De La Rosa".

    He's flipped & flopped more than Mitt on every issue known to politics.

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    Obviously hes not taken seriously here...

     
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    In response to TrotterNixon's comment:

    The Mariners continue to be an embarrassment to MLB, so they certainly need to do less pipe dreaming and find value on offense.

     

    That "embarassment" finished six games ahead of the Red Sox with one of baseball's youngest rosters* despite the disappointing development of former top prospects.

    Sometimes it's more fun to exceed modest expectations than to fall far, far short of high expectations.

    Peace be with you and every Red Sox fan.

    * with more young talent on the way:

    http://www.minorleagueball.com/2012/10/8/3474586/preliminary-top-50-pitching-prospects-list-for-2013

    http://www.minorleagueball.com/2012/10/8/3474442/preliminary-top-50-hitting-prospects-for-2013

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    That's a weak defense of a sad franchise.

     
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    Obviously hes not taken seriously here...

    ...sadly, he is by a few.

     
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    Bump

     
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    Bump

     
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    In response to vtfanofcs' comment:
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    In response to hill55's comment:
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    In response to TrotterNixon's comment:

    The Mariners continue to be an embarrassment to MLB, so they certainly need to do less pipe dreaming and find value on offense.

     

    That "embarassment" finished six games ahead of the Red Sox with one of baseball's youngest rosters* despite the disappointing development of former top prospects.

    Sometimes it's more fun to exceed modest expectations than to fall far, far short of high expectations.

    Peace be with you and every Red Sox fan.

    * with more young talent on the way:

    http://www.minorleagueball.com/2012/10/8/3474586/preliminary-top-50-pitching-prospects-list-for-2013

    http://www.minorleagueball.com/2012/10/8/3474442/preliminary-top-50-hitting-prospects-for-2013

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    That's a weak defense of a sad franchise.

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    When one of their "highly touted" prospects actually exceed mediocrity, Ill be impressed. They have a couple pitchers that are being talked about, but the overall success rate for the Mariners prospects hasnt been all that great IMO...

     
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    When one of their "highly touted" prospects actually exceed mediocrity, Ill be impressed. They have a couple pitchers that are being talked about, but the overall success rate for the Mariners prospects hasnt been all that great IMO...


    The Mariners -- and most teams -- have their share of Lars Andersons, but the Seattle farm system has produced some top players:

    http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/homegrown

    http://eye-on-baseball.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/view/22297882/1?mcctag=Homegrown

    Felix Hernandez, Adam Jones, Michael Pineda and Asdrubal Cabrera have made recent All Star appearances while Shin-Soo Choo and Brandon Morrow are top contributors. All are under 30 years of age with the exception of Choo, who turned 30 in July. The jury is still out on the current core of Kyle Seager, Michael Saunders, Jesus Montero, Dustin Ackley and Justin Smoak, who are all under 26 years of age.

     
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    And yet none of them play for the Mariners, which was part of my point...I should have been more clear with my post. My apologies...Smoak and Montero were not drafted by them.

     

     
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    I'm wondering if there are any Sox prospects Hill would like the Mariners to obtain.

     
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    I'm wondering if there are any Sox prospects Hill would like the Mariners to obtain.

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    Im sure Bogaerts, Barnes and JBJ would get his attention...

     
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    Im sure Bogaerts, Barnes and JBJ would get his attention...



    Xander Bogaerts, Matt Barnes and Jackie Bradley are promising prospects, but the Mariners should stockpile only so many top prospects at certain positions.

     

    John Sickels' preliminary list of hitting prospects has Bogaerts at No. 4 with Seattle shortstop prospects Nick Franklin at No. 16 and Brad Miller at No. 25. What they all share are doubts about whether they'll stick at shortstop.

    Sickels' list of pitching prospects has Barnes at No. 18 with Seattle prospects Taijuan Walker at No. 7, Danny Hultzen at No. 17, James Paxton at No. 25 and 17-year-old Victor Sanchez at No. 44.

    I suspect Seattle would have an interest in Jackie Bradley (No. 24 on Sickels' list), but I'm not sure what the Mariners would be willing to sacrifice for Bradley.

    I would guess Boston would be interested in Seattle's top hitting prospect, catcher Mike Zunino at No. 7, but Zunino is a Mariner keeper.

    http://www.minorleagueball.com/2012/10/8/3474442/preliminary-top-50-hitting-prospects-for-2013

    http://www.minorleagueball.com/2012/10/8/3474586/preliminary-top-50-pitching-prospects-list-for-2013

     
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    In response to hill55's comment:
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    In response to southpaw777's comment:

    Im sure Bogaerts, Barnes and JBJ would get his attention...



    Xander Bogaerts, Matt Barnes and Jackie Bradley are promising prospects, but the Mariners should stockpile only so many top prospects at certain positions.

     

    John Sickels' preliminary list of hitting prospects has Bogaerts at No. 4 with Seattle shortstop prospects Nick Franklin at No. 16 and Brad Miller at No. 25. What they all share are doubts about whether they'll stick at shortstop.

    Sickels' list of pitching prospects has Barnes at No. 18 with Seattle prospects Taijuan Walker at No. 7, Danny Hultzen at No. 17, James Paxton at No. 25 and 17-year-old Victor Sanchez at No. 44.

    I suspect Seattle would have an interest in Jackie Bradley (No. 24 on Sickels' list), but I'm not sure what the Mariners would be willing to sacrifice for Bradley.

    I would guess Boston would be interested in Seattle's top hitting prospect, catcher Mike Zunino at No. 7, but Zunino is a Mariner keeper.

    http://www.minorleagueball.com/2012/10/8/3474442/preliminary-top-50-hitting-prospects-for-2013

    http://www.minorleagueball.com/2012/10/8/3474586/preliminary-top-50-pitching-prospects-list-for-2013

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    Zunino looks like the real deal. Moved up 3 levels last year. Unbelieveable offensive stats for a 21 yr old catcher. Hes a solid defender with a great arm...These kind of catchers are rare. If he keeps this pace up I would give JBJ for this kid without even thinking about it.

     
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    The best and worst free agent values, according to FanGraphs columnist Dave Cameron:

    http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/the-25-best-and-five-worst-free-agent-values/

     

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