Ortiz, bases loaded, GIDP on 1st pitch: Surprised?

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    Ortiz, bases loaded, GIDP on 1st pitch: Surprised?

    Why do you have to swing at the first pitch in that situation?


    You could at least attempt a squeeze to score a run.


    Crowd the plate a little like Vic and get nicked for a run?


    Fowl away pitches and try to draw a walk?


    The one losing move is trying to pull the ball and having no chance to beat the double play.


    Ouch.

     
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    Re: Ortiz, bases loaded, GIDP on 1st pitch: Surprised?

    Ha ha, this is funny after all the talk here about how the Sox should be more aggressive and swing at the first pitch more.

     
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    Ha ha, this is funny after all the talk here about how the Sox should be more aggressive and swing at the first pitch more.

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    I did not even notice he swung at the first pitch.  It must have been a good pitch, no one is better than Ortiz in seeing the ball. Nice chance though to drive in the game winning run.

     
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    Re: Ortiz, bases loaded, GIDP on 1st pitch: Surprised?

    I agree with OP. Ortiz hit the first pitch on his last at-bat for a home run. I'm guessing he was trying to do the same again.

    Funny, I had a feeling he'd ground into a double play.

     

     
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    Re: Ortiz, bases loaded, GIDP on 1st pitch: Surprised?

    Other outcome: Let the pitcher throw enough and he might send one to the backstop.

    In the bases loaded, one out situation, it is simply crucial that we be able to produce a run somehow. It's the difference between winning and losing. Swing at a pitch that you can lift for a sac fly! Nothing lets the air out of a rally like a GIDP in that situation.

     
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    Re: Ortiz, bases loaded, GIDP on 1st pitch: Surprised?

    Yeah Ortiz isn't very good and doesn't understand the game.  We have so many better hitters on the club.

     
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    Re: Ortiz, bases loaded, GIDP on 1st pitch: Surprised?

    You could at least attempt a squeeze to score a run.

    I assume you are kidding, but there are some in here that will take you seriously.  When these guys get laughed out of the local pub, it will be your fault.

     
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    Re: Ortiz, bases loaded, GIDP on 1st pitch: Surprised?

    In response to lasitter's comment:
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    Why do you have to swing at the first pitch in that situation?

     

    You could at least attempt a squeeze to score a run.

     

    Crowd the plate a little like Vic and get nicked for a run?

     

    Fowl away pitches and try to draw a walk?

     

    The one losing move is trying to pull the ball and having no chance to beat the double play.

     

    Ouch.

    [/QUOTE]

    They should trade the bum.

    We don't need him, he does nothing for the team.

    Is that what you really want?

     

    Gimme a break.....

     
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    In response to Hfxsoxnut's comment:
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    Ha ha, this is funny after all the talk here about how the Sox should be more aggressive and swing at the first pitch more.

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    He lost me at 'fowl.'

     
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    In response to Hfxsoxnut's comment:
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    Ha ha, this is funny after all the talk here about how the Sox should be more aggressive and swing at the first pitch more.

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    Yeah...but ONLY if they're going to get a hit. Otherwise they shouldn't swing at all.  Someone needs to fire someone.

     
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    Re: Ortiz, bases loaded, GIDP on 1st pitch: Surprised?

    What does David Ortiz know about hitting anyway.  The guy's only got 451 HR and 1491 RBI.

     
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    Re: Ortiz, bases loaded, GIDP on 1st pitch: Surprised?

    In response to lasitter's comment:
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    Why do you have to swing at the first pitch in that situation?

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    Well, I usually prefer the batter to take a couple of pitches in that situation also, and make the pitcher throw strikes. I was not happy when AJ did this exact same thing several games ago. Then again, AJ is no Papi.

    There is a train of thought that suggests that the pitcher is likely to groove a fastball right down the pipe in that situation. There's a good chance that the batter is going to get a pretty good pitch to hit.

     

     
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    Re: Ortiz, bases loaded, GIDP on 1st pitch: Surprised?

    In response to Ergoetal's comment:
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    I agree with OP. Ortiz hit the first pitch on his last at-bat for a home run. I'm guessing he was trying to do the same again.

    Funny, I had a feeling he'd ground into a double play.

     

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    My son said the same thing right before it happened...lol

     
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    Re: Ortiz, bases loaded, GIDP on 1st pitch: Surprised?

    In response to lasitter's comment:
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    Why do you have to swing at the first pitch in that situation?

     

    You could at least attempt a squeeze to score a run.

     

    Crowd the plate a little like Vic and get nicked for a run?

     

    Fowl away pitches and try to draw a walk?

     

    The one losing move is trying to pull the ball and having no chance to beat the double play.

     

    Ouch.

    [/QUOTE]Nothing to see here, MOVEON.ORG   !!!


     
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    Re: Ortiz, bases loaded, GIDP on 1st pitch: Surprised?

    Ortiz is our best offensive player. Not every decision he makes is going to be a good one...but we pay him to hit home runs..or at least to hit for power. So, we can't complain if he gets overly aggressive at the plate. Obviously that strategy is not going to work 100 percent of the time...but I'll take the 25% that it does work.

    "It is not down in any map...trueplaces never are...." ( Melville)

     
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    Re: Ortiz, bases loaded, GIDP on 1st pitch: Surprised?

    In response to lasitter's comment:
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    Why do you have to swing at the first pitch in that situation?

     

    You could at least attempt a squeeze to score a run.

     

    Crowd the plate a little like Vic and get nicked for a run?

     

    Fowl away pitches and try to draw a walk?

     

    The one losing move is trying to pull the ball and having no chance to beat the double play.

     

    Ouch.

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    Actually, he crowds the plate most of the time, not sure if he was at this at bat. I think it is obvious as steve lyons pointed out that the more pitches Ortiz takes the more the pitcher is at a disadvantage. But as I said, no one sees the ball better. I will point out some things he does wrong, but I would never question his pitch selection. 

     
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    Re: Ortiz, bases loaded, GIDP on 1st pitch: Surprised?

    Nothing wrong with trying to score runners in.  If your first pitch is a strike with bases loaded, you swing, especially the guy at the plate is Papi.  

     
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    Re: Ortiz, bases loaded, GIDP on 1st pitch: Surprised?

    we really need a special needs forum.


     


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    Re: Ortiz, bases loaded, GIDP on 1st pitch: Surprised?

    In response to slasher9's comment:
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    we really need a special needs forum.

     

     

     

    other names i have posted under:  none

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    Suggestion of the month.

     
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    In response to slasher9's comment:
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    we really need a special needs forum.

    +1

     

     

    other names i have posted under:  none

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    Re: Ortiz, bases loaded, GIDP on 1st pitch: Surprised?

    i take it the OP's issue is more 1st pitch swinging, than the DP itself??...either way, in Ortiz's defense you can't ignore shifts employed against him/hits the ball hard/not the most flleet afoot...

     
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    Re: Ortiz, bases loaded, GIDP on 1st pitch: Surprised?

    Have some of you ever played this game?  It's called "situational hitting". When a batter is up with nobody on base the goal is to get on base by whatever means.  A hit, a walk, whatever, and there's a good reason for not swinging at the first pitch.  And there's also the tried-and-true Red Sox philosophy of running up the count. 

    However, when a hitter - and especially one with Papi's power - is up later in the game with RISP he's looking for the first good pitch he thinks he can handle, whether it's the first pitch or later on in the count.  

    Since we're talking about a cylindrical bat striking a round ball the difference between a GIDP and a HR is measured in portions of a millimeter as the bat contacts the ball.  Sometimes the bat makes that contact and sometimes it doesn't but Papi seems to have the knack of making that solid contact more than most.  

    I'm not going to second-guess Papi for swinging at the first pitch he thinks he can handle in that situation, whether it works out or not. 

    Having the right to do something doesn't make it the right thing to do.

    And I have never posted here under any other names.

     
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