Re: Ortiz just never stops complaining...ever
posted at 3/20/2014 7:05 PM EDT
In response to ma6dragon9's comment:
I just want to add something to this discussion...
saying Ortiz struggles with the english language at all is the pinnacle of excuse making. Never once on camera have I ever seen him pause, stutter, ask for clarification due to language barrier, or need a translator.
I have seen things printed, and then where then OTHER people make that excuse for him, but never have I seen him struggle with the language. He knows what he's saying, and he's saying what he means.
Also, his legacy will partly be written with how he ends his career, and where. If he ends up taking a spiteful end-of-career trip to the NYY, as he has twice threatened, that will surely have an effect.
Also, someone like Curt Schilling came here, played here, fell in love, and moved here...that should be taken into consideration too. I love guys who truly love Boston. Does Ortiz? In my opinion, no. I think, and I've said this before, once his playing career is done, you won't be seeing him in Boston except on special Sox days. It's not high on the list (becoming a transplanted local)...but it's on my list, and it matters to me. That part is yet-to-be-determined, and I don't judge him based on what I THINK will happen, but I am curious to find out.
It bothered me when about half-a-dozen Sox took the time to film little personal videos that got used in a video "I like beer" in 2011, and in 2014 this kind of bothers me too:
I don't know...I know it shouldn't, but it does. I know I hold athletes to a high standard...but I refuse to lower it. These guys make truck-fulls of money, and are often worshipped like Gods in the cities they play. If they wnt to go back to the days of being regular guys with off-season jobs...well, my expectations will certainly change. They want, even EXPECT, all that money, love and attention, I'm going to hold them up to a high standard.
People like Tom Brady so obviously 'get it'. It's not really that hard.
The problem with your critism of Ortiz is simply. You posted a list of Ortiz's flaws under the guise of painting a complete picture. But it was a pathetic attempt because it's hardly a complete picture of Ortiz.
Ortiz has his flaws. We all do. And expecting an athlete not to have flaws because you want to hold them to a ridiculously higher standard is nothing more than creating a situation where you can mindlessly rip any athlete at any time on the flimsiest of reasons.
And it's even more absurd to rip Ortiz on your opinion about how much he loves Boston. You make a negative answer to that simply so you can rip him some more. That's lame.
If you want to be honest with everyone, then in addition to listing all his supposed flaws in the 11-plus years he's been in Boston, why don't you add all good things he's done on the field -- key player in three W.S. titles -- and off the field -- involvement with Jimmy Fund, how he interacts with fans, his presence in the locker room, etc.
You don't mention any of the positives because they simply overwhelm the negatives, which are exagerated to begin with. Not to mention how you seem to go out of your way to be offended by the stupidest things.
Like I said, Ortiz isn't perfect. He's done or said things that makes you want to roll your eyes. However, I don't need my "heroes" (for lack of a better term) to be perfect nor do I want them to. That's hardly interesting. That a human being with actual flaws and human weaknesses can achieve great things is much more interesting.
My favorite president is George Washington, not the marble figure you read about in bad history, but the human being with flaws and weakness who still achieved greatness.
You paint Ortiz like some kind of Carl Everett-like villain, which says more about you than it does about him, setting the bar at ridiculous levels.