Re: Ortiz throws a fit... destroys dugout phone with bat
posted at 7/29/2013 8:10 AM EDT
In response to mef429's comment:
In response to jackbu's comment:
In response to miscricket's comment:
We were talking about this at the breakfast table this morning. Both son and hubbie rightly suggested that this was Ortiz' annual meltdown. With that..I agree. It seems that Ortiz has these meltdowns once every season or so..and usually when he's feeling frustrated about his performance.
However that was as far as we agreed on the matter. While they both shrugged it off I felt that his reaction was over the top..even for him. I've seen many a player throw a temper tantrum in the dugout..but never have I seen one throw a temper tantrum in the dugout while swinging a bat. He was out of control. What if he had wacked Pedroia with that bat? What if a piece of that phone injured someone? We would certainly be having a different conversation. The bottom line is that he put at least one of his teammates in harms way..and that is not what a team player does.
I am not one to pile on and have advocated for Ortiz in the past..but his behavior last night should not be excused.
Added to that..I found Ortiz' comments after the fact to be almost as disturbing as his behavior last night. He talked a lot about respect. Well..he didn't respect his teammates, he didn't respect the official, he didn't respect his coach and he didn't respect Baltimore. In fact nothing he did last night seems worthy of respect.
The officiating last night was terrible. The call was terrible..but no one took his at bat away from him. He had two additional chances at that at bat after the bad call..but he let his temper get the best of him . Is anyone in this board seriously going to suggest that Ortiz' at bat was taken away because the opportunity to pick up a walk was lost? I would hope that our DH would aspire to greater things than a base on balls while at the plate!
I would rather have seen him do his talking with the bat as he did in today's game...at the plate.
" Above all..be the heroine in your life..not the victim" Nora Ephron
Well said Cricket:
What everyone is forgetting is Ortiz stepped out of the batter's box and on a 3 and O count, most of the time this is going to be a strike by many umpires.
No. That pitch should have either been called a no pitch or a ball. Regardless of where papi stepped it was nowhere close to the strike zone. The umpires job is to make the right calls to the best of their ability. not blatantly blow a call to antagonize a player.
No...I have to agree with Jack on that one. I don't know if anyone remembers..but back a couple of months ago there was a big article in the Globe about how MLB was getting a lot of criticism because of the length of the games. One of the things that was cited as a major cause of this was this notion of batters arbitrarily stepping out of the batters box. If you go back and look at the video..the pitcher had virtually released the ball when Ortiz stepped out of the box. The Ump was under no obligation to acknowledge Ortiz' decision to step out and call a no pitch. As far as calling a ball...since we are engaging in "what if" scenarios then what if Ortiz stepping out at the very last minute took the ump's focus off the ball. What's the fair call then? Yes..it was a ball but if the ump didn't see it then why would he punish the pitcher?
The bottom line is we can love or hate Ortiz all we want. However you feel about him..and I think he's generally a nice guy...what he did the other night was wrong.
Not to mention..the situation did not call for that reaction. Yes..the officiating was not great..yes the officials blew calls throughout the game...but the Sox were comfortably ahead. Ortiz blaming his bad actions on the Ump is poor sportsmanship . Blame the ump for the bad call..but don't use that to justify your own bad actions.
I think he should get something from MLB..a suspension or a fine at least. Otherwise the message from MBL is that it is okay to swing a bat in a rage in the dugout. That is not what the game of baseball is about..not even close. Any true fan knows that.