Re: Paterno Family Don't Get It, and Just Won't Stop Either
posted at 6/4/2013 10:49 AM EDT
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This article from the new york post proves my point.
Paul has not been downgraded lol. Where do you get your information.
www.newadvent.org is a great place to get good solid catholic info.
Of course those with ssad can get to heaven as long as they die in a state of grace which is being free from mortal sin.
In the beginning God made man and woman and told them to multiply. Where is the paragraph in scripture that says God made man and man or woman and woman and told them to become intimate and not multiply.
In the bible marriage has never been between a man and man or woman and woman.
No it doesn't. This is a highly reactionary article.This class doesn't not teach anything that is not that actually deals with "homosexual acts". It seems like to me these are all heterosexual acts. Everything describe in this article can happen in a heterosexual relationships. The Go Ask Alice website is a pretty solid educational resource. Like many resources it has answers on things not apporate for all audiences. On top of this the class still preaches abstience. I find your reaction a reach. A fair reaction would be this should be tought by the parents but to say the are teaching homosexual acts is just a leap that is almost impossible to make. Teaching kids about sex doesn't make them gay. Not talking about sex doesn't stop kids from having sex. Gay people can disappear tomorrow and this class wouldn't change.
Yes it does and it is reactionary to you because you don't like what it says.
No one downgraded Paul. He is consider fallible on top of the he didn't have much to say on homosexuality. Do you follow Paul's preaching on women and slaves? My larger point, is that New Testament doesn't codemn gays.
Paul is not considered fallible by the catholic church, where do you get your information.
The Catholic Church doesn't require it you to believe in creation. As a matter of fact the Church has stated you can believe in evolution and not contraction any teachings of the Catholic Church.
The catholic still teaches that God created the heavens and the earth. It also teaches that God uses evolution in his creation. You can't throw creationism out the window and adopt evolution and say this is what the church teaches.
It has been like this from the 50's. You are not require to hold the Old Testament as anything more than a morality play. I went to Catholic school and they taught us that sex is some special that should be shared between two people who love each other enough to marry each other. They said you should only have sex if you are ready baby, but they never taught it was for just for procreation.
Where do you get your information, this is absolutly false. The old and new testament make up the bible that catholics use and is considered inspired by the holy spirit. The catholic church has neve condoned homosexual unions.
The Catholic Church sent a generation of African's to their deaths by telling them dying from AIDS was better than using a condom. This policy changed last year do to all the deaths it caused. New Advent post random articles found online about the Catholic Church. Where are the critical articles? Why not go to a Traditionalist web site and read about how the Vatican II was a mistake?
Please prove that the church sent a generation of africans to their deaths. The condom policy has not changed. New advent is a solid catholic traditional site where you can learn about what the church really teaches. Vatican ll has been misinterpreted by progressive catholics but not by those who follow the teaches of the pope and magisterium in rome.
Please stop using SSAD it makes you sound like bigot and detracts from everything else you post regardless of how accurate.
Sadd is the correct term and I will continue to use it. I use the correct medical term and I'm called a bigot, really.
There is no need for you to support gay marriage, but you shouldn't require the government to enforce your world view.
In most if not all states that were given a vote in choosing to allow homosexual marriage the people have voted no so you see this isn't just my world view.
If you don't believe in sex ed don't send your kids to public schools, but let others who would rather have their kids not get pregnet and not get AIDS have sex ed.
I tried public schools but chose to send my kids to private school for a number of reasons. When my younger child was in 4th grade in public school I opted him out of sex ed and the kids teased him terribly. When I called to complain I was told in a very nasty manner that I was the only one who was opting my child out. When I opted my older child out of public middle school he and another kid were made to write for an hour in the school library. I complained and it stopped.
I taught my sons right from wrong. Don't treat women like meat on a plate, they are persons who should be respected and wait till marriage. My married son waited till the wedding night. He said he wanted to do everything right because she was worth it. Parents should take a greater role in the education of their children so we don't have to have strangers instill values and morals that we may not agree with.
The same with marriage, if you don't need to go to a church that supports gay marriage but let two adults sign a contract.
Please read through my prior posts to see why you are wrong.
Christ is about love, to hold hateful views in your heart is working against Christ. Regardless of view you should love gay people like straight people.
Christ did eat with sinners because they were in need of a doctor, those who were healthy didn't. He also told them that their sins were forgiven but to sin no more. Love the sinner, hate the sin. I don't hate and since you can't read hearts you should not say that I'm working agianst Jesus. As catholics we are taught not to hate so I don't. I hope all people get to heaven so I love them as I do others but I can't love their sin because God finds it an abomination.
The article doesn't say anything about NYC teaching kids to be gay.
Paul is falliable because the Catholic Church doesn't promote slavery.
The Old Testament doesn't have to be taken litterally. You don't have to believe in the flood or Eden to be a Catholic it has been like this for awhile. The Catholic Church doesn't follow Leviticus yet some people still know two chapters.
Read this article for an unbias view about the Catholic Church and AIDS:
Also the traditionalist lost with the selection of Francis.
SSAD is not a correct medical term is still in use because of the pray the gay away crowd.
If people voted on it we would never overturned Jim Crow. This called tyranny and why we have separation of power. All the Dems have endorse gay marriage and GOP will in the next 5 years popular support has moved.
List I believe you are good person, I just feel you have views that are dated. You have convictions but I feel like you have deeply though about why you have them.