Paterno Family Still Doesn't Get It

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    first of all, a few of you should get off your high horse. When does the blame end? You want the entire college punished even though only a few people (very high places too) knew about the coverup/scandal/rapings. It's still not fair to those that did not have any knowledge of the man-to-boy relationships and those student-athletes who worked very hard for 4 to 5 years to be outstanding college football players and eventually graduates. Yah, you damn right it's not fair to them.
     
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    first of all, a few of you should get off your high horse. When does the blame end? You want the entire college punished even though only a few people (very high places too) knew about the coverup/scandal/rapings. It's still not fair to those that did not have any knowledge of the man-to-boy relationships and those student-athletes who worked very hard for 4 to 5 years to be outstanding college football players and eventually graduates. Yah, you damn right it's not fair to them.
    Posted by dannycater


    You raise valid points here about fairness to those not directly involved, but in my opinion the NCAA needed to come down extremely hard because Penn State as an educational institution and its ways of dealing with these abuse issues (or not dealing with them, as the case may be) were so egregiously wrong. I don't know if there was a good way to punish those who actually were in the wrong, given that Joe Paterno is deceased and the administration in question is mostly gone now.  Perhaps that is a matter more pertinent to a criminal court, but I think the NCAA had no choice but to come down hard on the school (and some might argue they didn't come down hard enough), otherwise the NCAA could be seen as somehow condoning what happened there. 

    And I do agree that probably isn't fair to the bulk of the Penn State population.
     
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    first of all, a few of you should get off your high horse. When does the blame end? You want the entire college punished even though only a few people (very high places too) knew about the coverup/scandal/rapings. It's still not fair to those that did not have any knowledge of the man-to-boy relationships and those student-athletes who worked very hard for 4 to 5 years to be outstanding college football players and eventually graduates. Yah, you damn right it's not fair to them.
    Posted by dannycater


    Agreed, it may not be fair, danny but there is no other way to handle it, one lends itself to the other. It's also something Paterno should have taken into account, when he made the decision to attempt to cover it up. His arrogance didn't allow himself to consider the possibility this may happen.
     
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    Actually, there is a way to handle it. The Death Penalty in college football. I would have not removed the previous wins. They had nothing to do with a coach shielding his legacy. You handcuff the future of Penn State football, not the past. Suspend the operations of the PSU football program and that's how you "punish" the program. They wanted to punish Paterno. Can we remove Richard Nixon as President of the U.S., remove his history and legacy as President. He was in on the greatest political coverup in our nation's history.  No one was raped, but the Democratic party, the citizens, and the way of doing government. 
     
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    I understand the necessity of the punishment.  But as a Penn State alum with many ties still in Happy Valley, I have an understanding of how much this devastates the community at large, in more significant ways than just mourning the loss of the football luster.  The economic impact is going to be substantial.  I am saddened that Sandusky's actions and the subsequent heinous cover-up not only devastated the victims, but also the Happy Valley community.  What a shame.
     
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    space, i sympathize with your plight. It's a tough situation and I think media frenzy and the need to punish took center stage over the rest of the university and its athletic program. Just as an example--should Harvard University shut down operations due to the fact that not only did they produce the UnaBomber but that the kid in Colorado looked up to the Harvard alum?
     
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    Got his inspiration from Harvard educated man. Two horrible mass murders linked to Harvard's tough academic standards. And not to compare rape to murder, but if it's all said and done, isn't dying at age 6 worse than being raped and not having a chance to at least live the rest of your life? Shut Harvard down right now! Death Penalty!
     
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    Danny they're hardly comparable...apples and oranges. The reason the death penalty wasn't invoked was because  it would have financially devastated the community, who are just as guiltless. The football program will recover and make it's way back, some of those business never would.
     
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    Paterno's sin was being a weak leader. He did not have the intestinal fortitude , the guts , to do what needed to be done in this case.  If he had , none of this would have happened. Now , fair or not , they will have to live with the consequences. And the shame and disgrace.  Weak leadership is a widespread problem in society. We have weak leaders in government , business , education , sports, religion and anything else you can think of.  There is a shortage of strong , courageous leadership across the board in this country.
     
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    first of all, a few of you should get off your high horse. When does the blame end? You want the entire college punished even though only a few people (very high places too) knew about the coverup/scandal/rapings. It's still not fair to those that did not have any knowledge of the man-to-boy relationships and those student-athletes who worked very hard for 4 to 5 years to be outstanding college football players and eventually graduates. Yah, you damn right it's not fair to them.
    Posted by dannycater


    Question do you have a son? If so, ask yourself how you'd feel if he were subjected to molestation by a pedofile. In this case a man that was held in high regard in the commuinty. One that as a parent, I'd be inclined to trust the care of my son with. After learning that he was taken advantage of by an employee of Penn State, while on the campus. Which on it own merits would be enough to elicit rage. To learn later, that not only was he molested ,while on the schools property (by the teams heir apparent to Paterno), but that one of the other assitant coaches witnessed it, then reported it to the head coach (Paterno). A man that many saw as a pillar of intergrity. Who then made a calculated decision in the interest of maintaining the status quo. To cover it up and not inform the proper authorities. Thus enabling Sandusky to continue his perverse behavior for more than a decade is uncontionable.

    In the end, Paterno and the University placed the interest of the football program, it's legesey, to include his own and the moneys generated by ahead of the well being of young boys. Who for more than a decade were subjected to the physical and mental abuses of one of thier own! A situation that they all could have helped to prevent. Had they made the right choice or had the moral fortitude to place the interest of the boys ahead ofthier own selfish needs...

    In recent times we've had preists of the catholic church and now a respected college coach both outed for taking advantage of the naivity of young boys. In both cases those that had the power to act on behalf of the victoms. Chose to instead to protect the interest of the institution. For that Penn State must be made an example of and frankly the penalties levied by the NCAA IMHO while prohibitive, in the end weren't harsh enough.

    They should have closed the entire school, along with having to pay the punitive settlements for all the victoms. This was not a football issue, it was at it's core a fundemental problem that is prevasive in the NCAA division I schools. The TV and sponsorships moneys in college athletic is such that many schools has created an envoirnment where schools ae no longer in the buisness of higher learning, rather make decisions in the interest of shareholder value...Devils in the details...
     
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    In Response to Re: Paterno Family Still Doesn't Get It : Question do you have a son? If so, ask yourself how you'd feel if he were subjected to molestation by a pedofile.
    Posted by Beantowne


    That's not relevant - you can't personalise an intellectual or moral argument.  The emotional response and anger of the parents should be ignored in favour of the criminal justice system a.k.a. The Law.

    That said, I think Penn State got off light and hope Paterno and the other enablers end up in jail.  Scum....they may as well have held the poor boys down for Sandusky.

     
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    In Response to Re: Paterno Family Still Doesn't Get It : Question do you have a son? If so, ask yourself how you'd feel if he were subjected to molestation by a pedofile. In this case a man that was held in high regard in the commuinty. One that as a parent, I'd be inclined to trust the care of my son with. After learning that he was taken advantage of by an employee of Penn State, while on the campus. Which on it own merits would be enough to elicit rage. To learn later, that not only was he molested ,while on the schools property (by the teams heir apparent to Paterno), but that one of the other assitant coaches witnessed it, then reported it to the head coach (Paterno). A man that many saw as a pillar of intergrity. Who then made a calculated decision in the interest of maintaining the status quo. To cover it up and not inform the proper authorities. Thus enabling Sandusky to continue his perverse behavior for more than a decade is uncontionable. In the end, Paterno and the University placed the interest of the football program, it's legesey, to include his own and the moneys generated by ahead of the well being of young boys. Who for more than a decade were subjected to the physical and mental abuses of one of thier own! A situation that they all could have helped to prevent. Had they made the right choice or had the moral fortitude to place the interest of the boys ahead ofthier own selfish needs... In recent times we've had preists of the catholic church and now a respected college coach both outed for taking advantage of the naivity of young boys. In both cases those that had the power to act on behalf of the victoms. Chose to instead to protect the interest of the institution. For that Penn State must be made an example of and frankly the penalties levied by the NCAA IMHO while prohibitive, in the end weren't harsh enough. They should have closed the entire school, along with having to pay the punitive settlements for all the victoms. This was not a football issue, it was at it's core a fundemental problem that is prevasive in the NCAA division I schools. The TV and sponsorships moneys in college athletic is such that many schools has created an envoirnment where schools ae no longer in the buisness of higher learning, rather make decisions in the interest of shareholder value...Devils in the details...
    Posted by Beantowne


    An extremely well written post
     
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    In Response to Re: Paterno Family Still Doesn't Get It : Question do you have a son? If so, ask yourself how you'd feel if he were subjected to molestation by a pedofile. In this case a man that was held in high regard in the commuinty. One that as a parent, I'd be inclined to trust the care of my son with. After learning that he was taken advantage of by an employee of Penn State, while on the campus. Which on it own merits would be enough to elicit rage. To learn later, that not only was he molested ,while on the schools property (by the teams heir apparent to Paterno), but that one of the other assitant coaches witnessed it, then reported it to the head coach (Paterno). A man that many saw as a pillar of intergrity. Who then made a calculated decision in the interest of maintaining the status quo. To cover it up and not inform the proper authorities. Thus enabling Sandusky to continue his perverse behavior for more than a decade is uncontionable. In the end, Paterno and the University placed the interest of the football program, it's legesey, to include his own and the moneys generated by ahead of the well being of young boys. Who for more than a decade were subjected to the physical and mental abuses of one of thier own! A situation that they all could have helped to prevent. Had they made the right choice or had the moral fortitude to place the interest of the boys ahead ofthier own selfish needs... In recent times we've had preists of the catholic church and now a respected college coach both outed for taking advantage of the naivity of young boys. In both cases those that had the power to act on behalf of the victoms. Chose to instead to protect the interest of the institution. For that Penn State must be made an example of and frankly the penalties levied by the NCAA IMHO while prohibitive, in the end weren't harsh enough. They should have closed the entire school, along with having to pay the punitive settlements for all the victoms. This was not a football issue, it was at it's core a fundemental problem that is prevasive in the NCAA division I schools. The TV and sponsorships moneys in college athletic is such that many schools has created an envoirnment where schools ae no longer in the buisness of higher learning, rather make decisions in the interest of shareholder value...Devils in the details...
    Posted by Beantowne

    I have children, yes. Did the Catholic Church close after all of the molestations? Nope. So again, let's use the Church. Just as many bad things happened at the Church--choir boys being abused, continually raped..for years....Did they close down the Church? No. Should they? Well, if Penn State is supposed to be the height of moral ground, then what the hell is the Church? Isn't that supposed to be sacred too? You are throwing the entire institution under the bus for the acts of a few. The Church lives on, so should Penn State. 

     
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    In Response to Re: Paterno Family Still Doesn't Get It : I have children, yes. Did the Catholic Church close after all of the molestations? Nope. So again, let's use the Church. Just as many bad things happened at the Church--choir boys being abused, continually raped..for years....Did they close down the Church? No. Should they? Well, if Penn State is supposed to be the height of moral ground, then what the hell is the Church? Isn't that supposed to be sacred too? You are throwing the entire institution under the bus for the acts of a few. The Church lives on, so should Penn State. 
    Posted by dannycater



    It should and will live on, danny. The "acts of a few" were the top ranking officials of the instition, to guard against this type of behavior. This couldn't go unpunished.
     
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    In Response to Re: Paterno Family Still Doesn't Get It : I have children, yes. Did the Catholic Church close after all of the molestations? Nope. So again, let's use the Church. Just as many bad things happened at the Church--choir boys being abused, continually raped..for years....Did they close down the Church? No. Should they? Well, if Penn State is supposed to be the height of moral ground, then what the hell is the Church? Isn't that supposed to be sacred too? You are throwing the entire institution under the bus for the acts of a few. The Church lives on, so should Penn State. 
    Posted by dannycater


    actually they have closed down THOUSANDS of churches to pay for this scandal...
     
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    It's likely they wanted to, and he said don't you dare; he had that kind of power


    http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/7221684/the-tragedy-penn-state-nittany-lions-coach-joe-paterno  Originally Published: November 11, 2011

    "Joe is -- was -- in absolute control of Penn State athletics," says a former BCS conference official who had a long working relationship with Paterno. "There's no question about it."Says another BCS conference administrator: "Joe's got a dark side. He's not always that witty old man. Joe can be very, very tough. He's very smart." 

    The more phone calls you make to those who know Paterno, who have worked with Paterno and who have socialized with Paterno, the more you realize he isn't simply the smiling cardboard cutout figure that the riotous crowds in downtown State College used as a symbol of their unrest. 

    The descriptions from one administrator: "Fabulous and horrendous" … "Surreptitious" … "Self-absorbed" … "Calculating" … "Protective of everything he's done." 

    JoePa is three-dimensional, capable of extraordinary acts of kindness and charity, as well as extraordinary acts of backroom politics. But he isn't who we thought he was. If he were, he would have called the police nine years ago when first alerted to the alleged misconduct of former Nittany Lions assistant coach and friend Jerry Sandusky.

     
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    I find the NCAA's sanctions to be mostly an appeasment to the masses who need people to blame and want to see people punished.  The idea of "taking away wins" has always been stupid but in this case is especially so because, no matter how disgusting, reprehensible, criminal, etc..., the negligence of Paterno et al were, it isn't an NCAA issue.  Penn State gained no advantage on the field because they hid sexual abuse, so the NCAA, on the behalf of the masses, did what it could to punish Paterno which was stripping his wins.  We are a culture obsessed with blame and punishment but in no way does taking Penn St's wins away do anything to benefit the victims.  It is an act for the rest of us, so we feel like Paterno was punished.

    Make no mistake, the acts of the Penn State power brokers who knew about the abuse and did nothing is beyond cowardly and criminal.  So because as a society we are repulsed, we need someone to pay.  The problem is punishing an institution for the acts of a few.

    I do agree that the Paterno's just need to shut up, although I will say I find some of the attacks on a deceased Paterno untasteful.  The man is dead.



     
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    It's likely they wanted to, and he said don't you dare; he had that kind of power http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/7221684/the-tragedy-penn-state-nittany-lions-coach-joe-paterno    Originally Published:  November 11, 2011 "Joe is -- was -- in absolute control of Penn State athletics," says a former BCS conference official who had a long working relationship with Paterno. "There's no question about it."Says another BCS conference administrator: "Joe's got a dark side. He's not always that witty old man. Joe can be very, very tough. He's very smart."  The more phone calls you make to those who know Paterno, who have worked with Paterno and who have socialized with Paterno, the more you realize he isn't simply the smiling cardboard cutout figure that the riotous crowds in downtown State College used as a symbol of their unrest.  The descriptions from one administrator: "Fabulous and horrendous" … "Surreptitious" … "Self-absorbed" … "Calculating" … "Protective of everything he's done."  JoePa is three-dimensional, capable of extraordinary acts of kindness and charity, as well as extraordinary acts of backroom politics . But he isn't who we thought he was. If he were, he would have called the police nine years ago when first alerted to the alleged misconduct of former Nittany Lions assistant coach and friend Jerry Sandusky.
    Posted by tom-uk


    I heard Paterno painted in a pretty negative light, on more than one occasion, long before any of the Sandusky stuff broke. 

    The fact that he refused to step down as coach over recent years just shows that he regarded himself as bigger than the program.  No major college football program should have a 80 year old coach.  It was clearly "his program".
     
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    It's likely they wanted to, and he said don't you dare; he had that kind of power http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/7221684/the-tragedy-penn-state-nittany-lions-coach-joe-paterno   Originally Published:  November 11, 2011 "Joe is -- was -- in absolute control of Penn State athletics," says a former BCS conference official who had a long working relationship with Paterno. "There's no question about it."Says another BCS conference administrator: "Joe's got a dark side. He's not always that witty old man. Joe can be very, very tough. He's very smart."  The more phone calls you make to those who know Paterno, who have worked with Paterno and who have socialized with Paterno, the more you realize he isn't simply the smiling cardboard cutout figure that the riotous crowds in downtown State College used as a symbol of their unrest.  The descriptions from one administrator: "Fabulous and horrendous" … "Surreptitious" … "Self-absorbed" … "Calculating" … "Protective of everything he's done."  JoePa is three-dimensional, capable of extraordinary acts of kindness and charity, as well as extraordinary acts of backroom politics . But he isn't who we thought he was. If he were, he would have called the police nine years ago when first alerted to the alleged misconduct of former Nittany Lions assistant coach and friend Jerry Sandusky.
    Posted by tom-uk


    This was pretty much my take on Paterno, all along. Wasn't hard to see, once you got past the mystique of the adoration and image.
     
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    The Paterno family, like OJ Simpson, will conduct their own "search" for the truth....

    what disgusting parasites...
     
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    In Response to Re: Paterno Family Still Doesn't Get It : actually they have closed down THOUSANDS of churches to pay for this scandal...
    Posted by georom4


    But Geo, I don't see any policies in effect that prevent future rapes of boys in Churches. Do you think that current young and old priests who haven't been able to overcome their physical tendencies (i.e. celibacy) are suddenly going to stop doing what they've been doing for years and years? I'm all for punishing Penn State with the Death Penalty, but not take away its history of many outstanding graduates and football players who have been exemplary citizens post-Penn State. They deserve better than be lumped into the Paterno-Sandusky-AD-President scandal. They did nothing wrong. There should be checks and balances at all Churches and at all colleges---how that is done to prevent the rapes is a whole nother enchilada, and probably requires security guards stationed in locker rooms and inside Church backrooms.
     
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    In Response to Re: Paterno Family Still Doesn't Get It : But Geo, I don't see any policies in effect that prevent future rapes of boys in Churches. Do you think that current young and old priests who haven't been able to overcome their physical tendencies (i.e. celibacy) are suddenly going to stop doing what they've been doing for years and years? I'm all for punishing Penn State with the Death Penalty, but not take away its history of many outstanding graduates and football players who have been exemplary citizens post-Penn State. They deserve better than be lumped into the Paterno-Sandusky-AD-President scandal. They did nothing wrong. There should be checks and balances at all Churches and at all colleges---how that is done to prevent the rapes is a whole nother enchilada, and probably requires security guards stationed in locker rooms and inside Church backrooms.
    Posted by dannycater


    actually danny, i believe the church has actually taken some excellent measures to stop the systematic abuse that existed under earlier policy..but of course they only did this after it all went down and in the end, may be seen as the death knell of the church (too early to say now but 200 years from now historians may say this was it)

    there are so many parallels between football and roman catholic heirarchies it is scary...what you have at penn st was realy the worst of both autocratic institutions headed by a cult/beloved figure...Paterno was the equivalent of the Pope...and from what i read, Paterno negotiated his last contract knowing this cloud was over him and he went for the gold..his family had to be told that they couldnt use the college lear jet that he was awarded...that was only for joe (and he died)....moneygrabers indeed...
     
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    yeah, i do see the similarity certainly with Pope Paterno and the Church. If you think you are bigger than life, you act like you are untouchable and without penalty of excess.
     
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    In Response to Re: Paterno Family Still Doesn't Get It : I have children, yes. Did the Catholic Church close after all of the molestations? Nope. So again, let's use the Church. Just as many bad things happened at the Church--choir boys being abused, continually raped..for years....Did they close down the Church? No. Should they? Well, if Penn State is supposed to be the height of moral ground, then what the hell is the Church? Isn't that supposed to be sacred too? You are throwing the entire institution under the bus for the acts of a few. The Church lives on, so should Penn State. 
    Posted by dannycater


    Danny,

    To be clear my issue with both institutions is not the acts of a few (though reprehensible as they are). Rather the cover up by those that had the power and autonomy to call the police and report the incidents. Thus preventing Sandusky and the many other Priest, from continuing to molest thier victoms.

    In the case of Sandusky, had Paterno and those at Penn State that were invloved in the cover-up, taken swift action, when they first learned of his indescrecions. They would have spared countless others from further abuse. 

    End of the Day....Joe Paterno and the University's leadership turned a blind eye for more than a decade. Therein lye's my ire and why I feel strongly that the penalty doesn't fit the crime. Closing the university or stripping it of it's ability to continue to be an acredited university, is just reward for the institutional breakdown of morale code. A standard of civility that I would hope we all should expect from one of our intitutions of higher learning. In this case they made a choice to protect the image of, profitablity of, along with the legesey of the coach of the football team and the university, over the well being of children. Though the penalties imposed by the NCAA are prohibitive. The punitive effects longterm will not IMHO stop others from making similar choices.

    In the big picture what this scandal has exposed is the big buisness side of college football. Where University's are now making decisions based on the amount of moneys they can generate through thier athletic programs in the interest of shareholder value. The amounts of moneys involved, estimated at 60M per anum at Penn State create an envoirnment of entitlement.

    Thus IMHO when the leadership of the university makes a calculated decision to cover up the moleststion of children on the campus, for more than a decade by an employee of the college. Who also happens to be the teams defensive coordinator and heir to the head coach. The "death penalty" for the entire university would then hit those that stand to profit from the moneys generated by the football program, right where it hurts the most! In closing the school would in fact impact them all right where the genesis of the decision to cover it up came from. the bottom line $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
     
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