Pedroia talks about the Red Sox (Country) Clubhouse

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    From WEEI.com:

    http://fullcount.weei.com/sports/boston/baseball/red-sox/2011/10/12/dustin-pedroia-on-the-big-show-clears-the-air-on-red-sox-clubhouse/

    Red Sox second baseman Dustin Pedroia interrupted his vacation in Mexico to call into the Big Show and discuss the Boston Globe article that portrayed the Sox clubhouse as an environment rife with dysfunction, in which teammates lapsed into apathy about the performance of the club as the season slowly drifted away.

    Pedroia took issue with the characterization of the Sox clubhouse, suggesting that it featured numerous leaders, and pointing the fault for the team’s epic collapse to poor play on the field.

    Pedroia suggested that he was “upset” about the portrayal of the clubhouse, and that he was “[hurt]” by the suggestion that manager Terry Francona‘s job had been compromised by personal problems.

    That said, Pedroia vowed to put behind him the brutal disappointment of the end of the season. He suggested that he wants to remain in Boston for the duration of his career even with the departure of Francona, and he said that the team would feature renewed resolve entering 2012.

    “We’ll come back motivated, I promise you guys,” said Pedroia.

    To listen to the complete interview, click here. A transcript of the conversation is below:

    On the Boston Globe article on Red Sox clubhouse dysfunction:

    I’m pretty upset about it. A lot of the stuff that was said was pretty much not fair. It hurts, man. It’s not good.

    What’s true?

    We’re all baseball players. I showed up to work every day ready to beat the other team. So did everyone else. We’re a family. We had the best record in baseball up until Sept. whatever, and then we ran out of gas. That doesn’t have anything to do with Tito or Theo or any players or what went on in the clubhouse. The leadership was there. We had guys that cared. We didn’t play well in the end. That’s it.

    We didn’t play well. That’s the bottom line. It’s not [ex-manager Terry Francona]‘s fault. It’s not anybody’s fault. We didn’t play well. It’s our whole team’s fault. We didn’t play well and we didn’t perform well and we didn’t win games when we needed to. That’s why we didn’t make the playoffs and that’s why our season ended.

    Did you sense Francona was less able to connect with the players? Did he seem different?

    To be honest with you, I played for him for five years and he’s never had to motivate me. When you play in an environment like Boston a manager should not have to motivate you. You should be self-motivated. Your team should be motivated to accomplish their goals and to be honest with you guys, we were. We just, at the end, we didn’t play well and that’s it. Everyone in that clubhouse wanted to win a World Series. Everyone can say oh some guys quit, some guys did what. In my opinion that’s a bunch of B.S. We all wanted to win. We just didn’t perform well.

    It’s not for personal issues or anything like that. There’s some first-class people in the Boston Red Sox organization and I don’t think they need to be treated and stuff brought out that shouldn’t be brought out.

    Did it drag the clubhouse down to have a couple people who weren’t self-motivated?

    No, not really. We try out hardest as players to police each other. [Jason Varitek] is the best. From what I’ve read he’s taken some shots about being the captain and how he wasn’t being a leader. That’s false. Tek’s in there. He says things to me. He says things to everybody. He’ll say things to Jacoby to make him a better player, to everybody. The leadership, I know 7-20 in September looks bad and everybody can say the lack of leadership, but that’s not true. We all wanted to win. We were all headed in the right direction. We didn’t. That’s basically it. They outplayed us in the end. Teams beat us that shouldn’t have beat us and that’s it. There’s nothing more to it.

    Were you surprised by the allegations of Francona’s self-medication and personal problems? Why would anyone say that about Francona?

    I’m not surprised by anything, but it hurts. I played with this guy for five years and he’s had everyone’s back since Day One. He might take the hit for some things and the way the team’s playing and stuff like that, but from Day One this guy had my back, he’s had everyone’s back. He’s protected every single guy in that clubhouse and that’s why I respect him like you can’t believe. Whatever job he gets, if he needs me for a couple of games or whatever just let me know, I’ll go play for free. That’s how much I care about this guy. This guy is my family. For him to have to deal with this, he’s the best manager in the history of the Red Sox organization. He won two World Series, look at the run that he’s had there, it’s pretty remarkable. That’s the part that hurts and whoever the person it is that’s saying this, I think they need to take a step back and kind of look in the mirror and understand what they’re saying about a guy. A lot of guys in this organization have his back and I’m definitely one of them. So are a lot of other big parts of our team.

    Why haven’t other people publicly supported Francona?

    Probably because other people, they don’t like talking to the media. When the season’s over, it’s not like they’re going to pick up their phone. I don’t blame them. You guys all know, I’m psycho. All this stuff, I take it personal. I take it to heart.

    This hurts, man. I think about it every night. I watch all the playoff games. I sit there. My wife probably hates me. It’s a part of the job, thinking what could I have done differently to help us win one more game. Other guys are probably thinking it, too. … We love Tito, man. I don’t know why more people didn’t voice it.

    Might you feel differently than your teammates?

    These guys are all my family. I care about every single one of them. Whether they’re doing good or they’re doing bad or they made a mistake or they didn’t make a mistake, we’re all in this together. Yeah, we had the biggest collapse in the history of baseball in September. So we’ve got to own that, come back next year motivated and prove to everybody that we can all do it together.

    I learned from my mistakes. I learned from failure. Look at me in April in 2007, I was horrible. But look at me now: One of the best players in baseball. That’s what we need to get back to as a team. We all failed together in September. We’re going to come back stronger, and prove to everyone that we’re the team that everyone was talking about at the beginning of last year.

    Have the departures of GM Theo Epstein and Francona made you rethink your future in Boston?

    Did Theo leave? I didn’t hear that one. He left already?

    Chicago, baby.

    It’s a nice city. My wife’s from there. … It’s going to be a little bit different. Theo obviously drafted me and Tito’s the only manager I’ve played for so it’s going to be a little bit different, but an organization that’s given me an opportunity to play professional baseball, from my heart I want to play there my whole career. Whatever changes they go on, I’m sure and they know how I feel. I want to be there my whole career. I want to go through the winning and even I want to go through the September collapses together. We’re in this together. You’ve got to think that way in Boston. It’s tough. There’s a lot of things that are thrown at you throughout the year even in the offseason. Even me on vacation talking to you guys. There’s a lot of things that other markets don’t have. But we’ve got to deal with it and take it full steam. I hope I get to do that my whole career.


    Is your leadership style to lead by example?

    Everyone’s different. We have a lot of leaders on our team. That’s the thing, when I read, that kind of gets to me. Tek’s the type that leads by example but when you get out of line he’s going to say a couple of things to you and there’s no questions asked and there’s no barking back, you do it. That’s how Tek runs his ship and it’s very effective. He’s pretty scary. You guys all see him.

    I get to the field at 1 and I go to work. That’s what I do. I’m hitting all the time. I’m taking groundballs. I don’t ever have a chance to sit down and think about what I’m doing. It’s always, whatever I have to do today to help us win, that’s what I have to do. … The way I lead I think is more by example but I’m always talking to the guys in situations and stuff like that. Obviously I’m approachable. I’m always talking. I think guys probably want me to shut up but there’s a lot of different types of leaders on our team that do it a certain way.

    How would you feel if the owners wanted to ban beer from the clubhouse?

    Jeez, I don’t drink. I’ll have a beer once a month. … Baseball’s my life. Baseball and my son. That’s basically it. I don’t drink. But we’re all grown men. The way I see the stuff that’s been coming out, we’re all grown men. If you want to have a few beers after the game, that’s fine. If you go 0-for-4 with two punchouts and need to have a couple of beers, have a couple of beers. That’s after the game, though. I’m playing. I missed playing three games this year. One of them I was back in Boston getting my knee checked out. I don’t know what’s going on back in the clubhouse. Neither do a lot of guys during the game. I don’t look down towards the people you guys are saying were doing that by any means. I just hope it doesn’t affect their play on the field. If it affects their play on the field, then we need to make an adjustment. But if it doesn’t, I don’t really care what you do to get yourself right for the game.

    I remember, didn’t Derek Jeter, didn’t he eat McDonald’s or something all the time before the game when he was younger? There’s a lot of different guys do it a certain way. As long as you go out there and perform and help your team win, I don’t care what you do.

    Can position leaders bring pitchers in line?

    Those guys, their job’s a lot different than mine. The pitchers all go out there and stretch at home earlier than the position players do because they’ve got to get their throwing program in. Starters have to get their day one, day two, day three workouts in. They’ve got to do a lot more different stuff than me. I’m out there taking groundballs at 3:45 when they’re out stretching. Obviously I don’t get to see those guys that much, because they have their own routine and I have my own routine. I get down to the batting cage at 6 o’clock, an hour before the game. That’s my time to get focused. I do flips with [hitting coach Dave Magadan], do some tee stuff. … They’re probably upstairs hanging out with the rest of the guys.

    To be honest, our guys, our starting pitchers, they work hard. Dave Page, our strength guy, makes them work. We just didn’t play well. We didn’t execute pitches at the right time, we didn’t make the play when we needed it, we didn’t get the big hit when we needed it. That’s it. There’s nothing more.


    Given your background, does it upset you if teammates don’t do everything they can to maximize their skill set?

    No. Everybody’s different. That’s the way I look at, not only in baseball, but in life. Not everyone’s made like me. Not everyone is made like anyone else. Whatever, in my opinion, whatever it takes for someone to be motivated to play, do it, whether that be listening to music before the game or not listening to music, meditating. I don’t know what some guys do.

    It doesn’t bother me. As long as we have 25 people pointed in the right direction, trying to help the Boston Red Sox win, that’s all I care about. We didn’t win. So we’ll give it a shot next year. We’ve got to find a way to get everyone pointed in the right direction. We’ll do that.


    Were you upset about the Aug. 26 doubleheader?

    I didn’t mind playing the doubleheader. It was basically up to the position players. I had to play 18 innings that day with a screw in my foot. Jacoby [Ellsbury] played whatever amount of games, it’s late in the year, we’re all beat up. The position players all said, ‘We’ll do it,’ because we were going to get two days off.

    Where I think a lot of guys were upset, including myself, were the conditions we were playing in in that game. It was bad. It was borderline to the point where you watch your step, not worry about winning, let’s worry about getting out of here healthy, especially me. I’ve got a screw in my foot, and I’m playing in standing water at second base and they keep dumping the tarp over there. I’m thinking, ‘It’s August 27, we’ve got a month to go, we’re 30 games over .500 at the time, I think Lester was pitching one of the games, I don’t want Lester pulling his groin throwing a pitch and he misses six weeks and that affects us. I think a lot of guys were unhappy about the conditions we were playing in and what times we started the game, but nobody was upset because we had to. The hurricane’s coming, man. We’ve got to get the games in or play them at the end. Nobody’s unhappy about that. I think we were unhappy about the conditions. It was dangerous.


    On the player’s only party on principal owner John Henry’s boat:

    On John Henry’s boat, you guys ever been on that thing? It’s pretty sick. It was awesome. … We all went out there and talked about our team. We were struggling at the time. We came back from our roadtrip. We needed that, but when we got back, we just didn’t play well. That’s basically it. But I’ll tell you what, I’ve never seen a boat like that. I might see if I can live on it for a couple days. That thing, wow. That’s out of my pay rate, man.

    People in Boston are upset.

    We’ll come back motivated, I promise you guys

     
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    From WEEI.com: http://fullcount.weei.com/sports/boston/baseball/red-sox/2011/10/12/dustin-pedroia-on-the-big-show-clears-the-air-on-red-sox-clubhouse/ Red Sox second baseman Dustin Pedroia interrupted his vacation in Mexico to call into the Big Show and discuss the Boston Globe article that portrayed the Sox clubhouse as an environment rife with dysfunction, in which teammates lapsed into apathy about the performance of the club as the season slowly drifted away. Pedroia took issue with the characterization of the Sox clubhouse, suggesting that it featured numerous leaders, and pointing the fault for the team’s epic collapse to poor play on the field. Pedroia suggested that he was “upset” about the portrayal of the clubhouse, and that he was “[hurt]” by the suggestion that manager Terry Francona ‘s job had been compromised by personal problems. That said, Pedroia vowed to put behind him the brutal disappointment of the end of the season. He suggested that he wants to remain in Boston for the duration of his career even with the departure of Francona, and he said that the team would feature renewed resolve entering 2012. “We’ll come back motivated, I promise you guys,” said Pedroia. To listen to the complete interview, click here . A transcript of the conversation is below: On the Boston Globe article on Red Sox clubhouse dysfunction: I’m pretty upset about it. A lot of the stuff that was said was pretty much not fair. It hurts, man. It’s not good. What’s true? We’re all baseball players. I showed up to work every day ready to beat the other team. So did everyone else. We’re a family. We had the best record in baseball up until Sept. whatever, and then we ran out of gas. That doesn’t have anything to do with Tito or Theo or any players or what went on in the clubhouse. The leadership was there. We had guys that cared. We didn’t play well in the end. That’s it. We didn’t play well. That’s the bottom line. It’s not [ex-manager Terry Francona ]‘s fault. It’s not anybody’s fault. We didn’t play well. It’s our whole team’s fault. We didn’t play well and we didn’t perform well and we didn’t win games when we needed to. That’s why we didn’t make the playoffs and that’s why our season ended. Did you sense Francona was less able to connect with the players? Did he seem different? To be honest with you, I played for him for five years and he’s never had to motivate me. When you play in an environment like Boston a manager should not have to motivate you. You should be self-motivated. Your team should be motivated to accomplish their goals and to be honest with you guys, we were. We just, at the end, we didn’t play well and that’s it. Everyone in that clubhouse wanted to win a World Series. Everyone can say oh some guys quit, some guys did what. In my opinion that’s a bunch of B.S. We all wanted to win. We just didn’t perform well. It’s not for personal issues or anything like that. There’s some first-class people in the Boston Red Sox organization and I don’t think they need to be treated and stuff brought out that shouldn’t be brought out. Did it drag the clubhouse down to have a couple people who weren’t self-motivated? No, not really. We try out hardest as players to police each other. [ Jason Varitek ] is the best. From what I’ve read he’s taken some shots about being the captain and how he wasn’t being a leader. That’s false. Tek’s in there. He says things to me. He says things to everybody. He’ll say things to Jacoby to make him a better player, to everybody. The leadership, I know 7-20 in September looks bad and everybody can say the lack of leadership, but that’s not true. We all wanted to win. We were all headed in the right direction. We didn’t. That’s basically it. They outplayed us in the end. Teams beat us that shouldn’t have beat us and that’s it. There’s nothing more to it. Were you surprised by the allegations of Francona’s self-medication and personal problems? Why would anyone say that about Francona? I’m not surprised by anything, but it hurts. I played with this guy for five years and he’s had everyone’s back since Day One. He might take the hit for some things and the way the team’s playing and stuff like that, but from Day One this guy had my back, he’s had everyone’s back. He’s protected every single guy in that clubhouse and that’s why I respect him like you can’t believe. Whatever job he gets, if he needs me for a couple of games or whatever just let me know, I’ll go play for free. That’s how much I care about this guy. This guy is my family. For him to have to deal with this, he’s the best manager in the history of the Red Sox organization. He won two World Series, look at the run that he’s had there, it’s pretty remarkable. That’s the part that hurts and whoever the person it is that’s saying this, I think they need to take a step back and kind of look in the mirror and understand what they’re saying about a guy. A lot of guys in this organization have his back and I’m definitely one of them. So are a lot of other big parts of our team. Why haven’t other people publicly supported Francona? Probably because other people, they don’t like talking to the media. When the season’s over, it’s not like they’re going to pick up their phone. I don’t blame them. You guys all know, I’m psycho. All this stuff, I take it personal. I take it to heart. This hurts, man. I think about it every night. I watch all the playoff games. I sit there. My wife probably hates me. It’s a part of the job, thinking what could I have done differently to help us win one more game. Other guys are probably thinking it, too. … We love Tito, man. I don’t know why more people didn’t voice it. Might you feel differently than your teammates? These guys are all my family. I care about every single one of them. Whether they’re doing good or they’re doing bad or they made a mistake or they didn’t make a mistake, we’re all in this together. Yeah, we had the biggest collapse in the history of baseball in September. So we’ve got to own that, come back next year motivated and prove to everybody that we can all do it together. I learned from my mistakes. I learned from failure. Look at me in April in 2007, I was horrible. But look at me now: One of the best players in baseball. That’s what we need to get back to as a team. We all failed together in September. We’re going to come back stronger, and prove to everyone that we’re the team that everyone was talking about at the beginning of last year. Have the departures of GM Theo Epstein and Francona made you rethink your future in Boston? Did Theo leave? I didn’t hear that one. He left already? Chicago, baby. It’s a nice city. My wife’s from there. … It’s going to be a little bit different. Theo obviously drafted me and Tito’s the only manager I’ve played for so it’s going to be a little bit different, but an organization that’s given me an opportunity to play professional baseball, from my heart I want to play there my whole career. Whatever changes they go on, I’m sure and they know how I feel. I want to be there my whole career. I want to go through the winning and even I want to go through the September collapses together. We’re in this together. You’ve got to think that way in Boston. It’s tough. There’s a lot of things that are thrown at you throughout the year even in the offseason. Even me on vacation talking to you guys. There’s a lot of things that other markets don’t have. But we’ve got to deal with it and take it full steam. I hope I get to do that my whole career. Is your leadership style to lead by example? Everyone’s different. We have a lot of leaders on our team. That’s the thing, when I read, that kind of gets to me. Tek’s the type that leads by example but when you get out of line he’s going to say a couple of things to you and there’s no questions asked and there’s no barking back, you do it. That’s how Tek runs his ship and it’s very effective. He’s pretty scary. You guys all see him. I get to the field at 1 and I go to work. That’s what I do. I’m hitting all the time. I’m taking groundballs. I don’t ever have a chance to sit down and think about what I’m doing. It’s always, whatever I have to do today to help us win, that’s what I have to do. … The way I lead I think is more by example but I’m always talking to the guys in situations and stuff like that. Obviously I’m approachable. I’m always talking. I think guys probably want me to shut up but there’s a lot of different types of leaders on our team that do it a certain way. How would you feel if the owners wanted to ban beer from the clubhouse? Jeez, I don’t drink. I’ll have a beer once a month. … Baseball’s my life. Baseball and my son. That’s basically it. I don’t drink. But we’re all grown men. The way I see the stuff that’s been coming out, we’re all grown men. If you want to have a few beers after the game, that’s fine. If you go 0-for-4 with two punchouts and need to have a couple of beers, have a couple of beers. That’s after the game, though. I’m playing. I missed playing three games this year. One of them I was back in Boston getting my knee checked out. I don’t know what’s going on back in the clubhouse. Neither do a lot of guys during the game. I don’t look down towards the people you guys are saying were doing that by any means. I just hope it doesn’t affect their play on the field. If it affects their play on the field, then we need to make an adjustment. But if it doesn’t, I don’t really care what you do to get yourself right for the game. I remember, didn’t Derek Jeter , didn’t he eat McDonald’s or something all the time before the game when he was younger? There’s a lot of different guys do it a certain way. As long as you go out there and perform and help your team win, I don’t care what you do. Can position leaders bring pitchers in line? Those guys, their job’s a lot different than mine. The pitchers all go out there and stretch at home earlier than the position players do because they’ve got to get their throwing program in. Starters have to get their day one, day two, day three workouts in. They’ve got to do a lot more different stuff than me. I’m out there taking groundballs at 3:45 when they’re out stretching. Obviously I don’t get to see those guys that much, because they have their own routine and I have my own routine. I get down to the batting cage at 6 o’clock, an hour before the game. That’s my time to get focused. I do flips with [hitting coach Dave Magadan ], do some tee stuff. … They’re probably upstairs hanging out with the rest of the guys. To be honest, our guys, our starting pitchers, they work hard. Dave Page , our strength guy, makes them work. We just didn’t play well. We didn’t execute pitches at the right time, we didn’t make the play when we needed it, we didn’t get the big hit when we needed it. That’s it. There’s nothing more. Given your background, does it upset you if teammates don’t do everything they can to maximize their skill set? No. Everybody’s different. That’s the way I look at, not only in baseball, but in life. Not everyone’s made like me. Not everyone is made like anyone else. Whatever, in my opinion, whatever it takes for someone to be motivated to play, do it, whether that be listening to music before the game or not listening to music, meditating. I don’t know what some guys do. It doesn’t bother me. As long as we have 25 people pointed in the right direction, trying to help the Boston Red Sox win, that’s all I care about. We didn’t win. So we’ll give it a shot next year. We’ve got to find a way to get everyone pointed in the right direction. We’ll do that. Were you upset about the Aug. 26 doubleheader? I didn’t mind playing the doubleheader. It was basically up to the position players. I had to play 18 innings that day with a screw in my foot. Jacoby [Ellsbury] played whatever amount of games, it’s late in the year, we’re all beat up. The position players all said, ‘We’ll do it,’ because we were going to get two days off. Where I think a lot of guys were upset, including myself, were the conditions we were playing in in that game. It was bad. It was borderline to the point where you watch your step, not worry about winning, let’s worry about getting out of here healthy, especially me. I’ve got a screw in my foot, and I’m playing in standing water at second base and they keep dumping the tarp over there. I’m thinking, ‘It’s August 27, we’ve got a month to go, we’re 30 games over .500 at the time, I think Lester was pitching one of the games, I don’t want Lester pulling his groin throwing a pitch and he misses six weeks and that affects us. I think a lot of guys were unhappy about the conditions we were playing in and what times we started the game, but nobody was upset because we had to. The hurricane’s coming, man. We’ve got to get the games in or play them at the end. Nobody’s unhappy about that. I think we were unhappy about the conditions. It was dangerous. On the player’s only party on principal owner John Henry’s boat: On John Henry’s boat, you guys ever been on that thing? It’s pretty sick. It was awesome. … We all went out there and talked about our team. We were struggling at the time. We came back from our roadtrip. We needed that, but when we got back, we just didn’t play well. That’s basically it. But I’ll tell you what, I’ve never seen a boat like that. I might see if I can live on it for a couple days. That thing, wow. That’s out of my pay rate, man. People in Boston are upset. We’ll come back motivated, I promise you guys
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    i heard this live and was greatly disappointed...more denials and lack of responsibility from our best player....he kept slinging the bs about the sox being like family...really???? is that what happened in September? these guys didnt even have enough respect for themselves not to act like frat boys in Animal House....note to any ballplayer - when being asked to explain a record collpase in the final month of the season, dont do so from a lush resort - we know you get paid well - we know there is next year...what we wanted to hear was that it wouldnt happen again because these players need to be gone, or at least learn from their errors...apprently all is great in pedeyland...thanks for sharing - now get back to your 5star resort...

    btw i loved his explanation for why the players were so miffed for having to play a doubleheader and that he simply gave his $300 headphone gift from management away...I can sure relate to that Pedey!
     
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    I just wanna see Sox doing better than this year...
     
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    Did you really expect Pedroia to trash his teammates?Rather than blame and point fingers,it's pretty obvious he's trying to do damage control.That's what a player who is committed to the team does.How productive would it be for him to come out and say something negative about the other players or front office?He's using the same tactics Belichick uses to deal with these problems by keeping everything IN HOUSE,where it should be instead of out in the media.I don't for 1 second think everything is right in the clubhouse,but the media is the wrong outlet to air any grievances.
       Pedroia's doing what an intelligent leader should do and that is to help stop the smear campaign going on about his team right now,even if it's worse than he lets on. 
     
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    excellent article!!

    But why the world he is vacationing in Mexico.  Worse place to vacationing in nowsaday!!  
     
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    Pedey is the heart of the Red Sox, no question, but the continual "we just didn't play well" statement is suspect. How could they be the best team in baseball from May through August, then go 7-20 in September by just not playing well? There is far more going on here and we all know it.
     
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    Great article about a great player and person. Thanks for posting. It is much more credible than the garbage that Shaunessy spouts friom his hateful mouth every day. The simple fact is that the blame should be placed on everyone.
     
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    Did you really expect Pedroia to trash his teammates?Rather than blame and point fingers,it's pretty obvious he's trying to do damage control.That's what a player who is committed to the team does.How productive would it be for him to come out and say something negative about the other players or front office?He's using the same tactics Belichick uses to deal with these problems by keeping everything IN HOUSE,where it should be instead of out in the media.I don't for 1 second think everything is right in the clubhouse,but the media is the wrong outlet to air any grievances.    Pedroia's doing what an intelligent leader should do and that is to help stop the smear campaign going on about his team right now,even if it's worse than he lets on. 
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    You gotta love Pedey!  LOYALTY!  He still has his teammate's backs!

    I wish some of the other slacking coward prima donna frat boy players who bailed on their "lesser" teammates & fans, would step up & re-commit themselves to this TEAM!  Show some self-discipline & re-focus on baseball!

    The starting pitchers is where this c r a p started..........

    I have a theory, with nothing but observation & body language to back it up.  Ever since Lackey showed up, the attitudes of the starting pitchers has gone to
    hell.  Beckett, who has always been a big attitude, fierce competitor, tons of swag., I f'n hate to lose kind of guy.....  has become markedly more negative & indifferent to winning!  Lester, particularly this year, was consistently melting down on the mound.  It would all start with his attitude.  He seemed much more concerned with getting the close call (more often clearly off the plate than not) than keeping his head in the game.  A real entitlement mentality as opposed to his old, F U I'm going to take control of every batter & mow these guys down no matter what the calls are.  He was constantly losing his cool on the mound!  Dice-K, who was problematic either way, developed a serious poor me & F U attitude.  Buch was never ready to play this year!  He did not come prepared to pitch, & his injury was the result.  Wake was in the worst shape of his life.  I'm 49 with Multiple Sclerosis & I'm in MUCH BETTER shape than this guy!  His lack of commitment to keeping in shape and EXPECTING a shot at the record really hurts.  I could not be more disappointed with Wake, who so many of us invested a great deal of time, effort, expense, devotion, & loyalty to, because we felt it was a two way street.  We admired his grit & determination to keep helping this team.  There is NO QUESTION that he let himself go physically, but still expected to be in the rotation!  There is NO QUESTION that the shape he was in made it infinitely more difficult to pitch effectively!

    Lackey's attitude is absolutely sick!  As his historically awful season got worse & worse, his attitude got increasingly worse.  I think he was the ring leader for the CRASH of this pitching staff.  I can hear him saying to all his frat brothers, "HEY, LOOK HOW THEY TURNED ON ME!  THEY WILL DO IT TO YOU TOO no matter how hard you bust your azz.  F RS Nation!"

    SEND A MESSAGE HENRY!  Simply cut him loose!  Give him away!  Nobody would pay more than $1 million / yr (if that) for this guy!  Rightly so!  HE IS THE CANCER!  He has absolutely zero character!  He pitches lousy, & he turns on the guys behind him!  the worse he pitched, the more indignant he became!  He's having a historically terrible season, & his answer is to get ticked off & pound brews in the clubhouse.  Encouraging his fellow pitchers to join him on his self indulgent pity party.  Encourages his teammates to quietly give the finger to the fans, 'because they's too critical.'  I can actually see his 'I'll show them for criticizing me' mind set.  'I'll take this whole RS Nation down.'  Well.....  He did!!!!!!!!!

    SEND A MESSAGE!  SIMPLY SEND HIM PACKING!!!!  YES!  YOU WILL HAVE TO EAT HIS ENTIRE CONTRACT, BUT IT WOULD BE WORTH IT!  HE HURT THIS TEAM FAR MORE THAN THE 1 OR 2 GAMES HIS DID 'WELL' IN!!!!  HE IS THE TYPE OF GUY WHO SUCKS OTHERS INTO HIS NEGATIVITY!  HIS DISRESPECT OF TITO, RIGHT ON THE MOUND!  TIME & TIME AGAIN!!!!  SPEAKS VOLUMES ABOUT THE KIND OF GUY HE IS!!!!  TITO'S TAKING THE SLING & ARROWS FOR THIS PUNK, & THAT'S HOW HE PAYS HIM BACK????  THIS GUY IS THE CANCER!!!!

    Pedey's loyalty is not the problem!  The character of some of his teammates is!


     
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    Re: Pedroia talks about the Red Sox (Country) Clubhouse

    Pedroia is doing the right thing and someone needs to do it as Tito and Theo aren't in a position to do it. He just helped the club a lot. While on vacation.
     
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    That what a leader does, takes the heat for all the screw-ups who don't have the sack to own up.
    He knows we as fans aren't buying into poor play as the sole excuse for the meltdown, that was strictly done for the media and media alone.
    I wish we had 25 guys with the heart and motivation that pedey has. We would be in the PS every year with his attitude.
     
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    I think I'll go buy a Pedrioa Jersey to go with my #9 and #45.

    I love how he gets a "and how ever many games Ellsbury played" in there.
     
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    Re: Pedroia talks about the Red Sox (Country) Clubhouse

    True. He can't finger players to the public, or say negative things about problem players to the press. He has to abide by unwritten rule not to air out problems in the press.

    That said, there are players who he will finger in-house, once new management is in place. Some of the old non-producing players will almost surely not be offered contracts. Constructing a new roster requires every roster spot be filled with a complimentary part that fits, is fit, and is capable of physically performing an entire season. Not offering contracts to the old non-producing players will be the first sign of player culture change. The trades will follow over the next year.

    Manager fired. I could have lived with Tito and one more year, but I was fine firing him as a needed change in voice on front line player authority.

    Epstein was fired. That was the most essential move of all. Epstein has been seeking an extension for at least a year or more. It was denied and was a vote of no confidence from Luchino and Henry. Cubs will regret decision to get used as a parachute for Epstein.

    Next comes new management hires.

    Next comes discard of old problem players in production and leadership.

    First order of business will be decisions on FA players who have no real FA major league contract value. That will include Wakefield and Varitek. I doubt they offer them anything more than a minor league contract (see Bernie Williams), despite what Varitek's latest girlfriend says.

    Pedoria is to be admired for not stabbing old players in public. But the bottom line is results. Jason Varitek and 2009 to 2011 and zero playoff wins is not getting the leadership done on a team with a massive payroll and talent.

    Varitek is done as a producing player. He is also done as a voice. Varitek has zero credibility as a player team leader.

    Wakefield is so pitiful that removing his paunched profile will send a message to other veterans that the days of gifted roster spots in the country club are over! Either come fit and capable of producing in a position, pen role or starter role or you will not get the benefit of a DFA and free roster ride for a few months.

    Epstein was a disaster when it came to wasting roster spots on these old has beens.
     
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    Re: Pedroia talks about the Red Sox (Country) Clubhouse

    This goes along with Ortiz;s comment about the clubhouse where he said parapharsing...What went on in the clubhouse was what went on in 2004 and 2007. Didn't hear anyone complaining then did you. 
    I find it funny where when a RS player/manage/GM leave they get trashed. That a lot of people say it comes from the RS themselves. However we get the info from unnamed sources through the like DS and other media types.
    All of the BS (addiction to drugs/not being there or not communicative  we now know is not true based upon comments from Ortiz and Pedroia not from unnamed sources. Damn Lowell, Reynolds and Hudson all said pitchers who are not playing that day or are done for the day will go to the club house during a game and have a beer they have seen it on other teams. Jack McKeon said it happened to the 2003 Marlins. Ortiz said it happened in 2004 and 2007.
    RS media is taking stuff that happens and making it sound like only the RS do it and then making it the reason for Sept.

    I Never trust an unnamed source. If I were a journalist I'd never use an unnamed source. If a person can not stand up and say I said it then it cannot be trusted to be factual.
     
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    Re: Pedroia talks about the Red Sox (Country) Clubhouse

    He IS our new captain... PERIOD

     
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