Peter Abraham vs. your 25 man roster

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    Re: Peter Abraham vs. your 25 man roster

    I do not see Sweeney making the roster; ShaVic can play CF if Ells is hurt. Nava should be added in Sweeney's place. Sweeney is a good defender but no consistency with the bat/no power either.

    Mortenson is not better than Aceves. If Farrell can't work with Aceves, Aceves should be traded. That would be a shame because he is a talented guy.

    If Doubie or Lackey or Lester fail to meet expectations perhaps Morales, Aceves or Webster/RDLR (if they continue to pitch well in the Spring) might be good choices.

    Also we may see some trades between now and opening day.

     
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    Re: Peter Abraham vs. your 25 man roster

    Mort out Bard in. I like Sweeney has the forth and Nava has option. Let Nava work at first and become a 1b/LF instead of just a LF. If JBJ makes the then Gomes slides down.

     
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    Re: Peter Abraham vs. your 25 man roster

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    Mort out Bard in. I like Sweeney has the forth and Nava has option. Let Nava work at first and become a 1b/LF instead of just a LF. If JBJ makes the then Gomes slides down.



    Bard needs a change of scenery. It's going to be difficult for him to erase last season from his mind in Boston--unfortunately the fans won't let him forget if he has some bad outings. They will option him if things don't change.

    I would honestly take Mort over Bard---because of his long relief ability and Bard's inconsistentcy. I would take Aceves over both--his issues are overblown--the BP thing was nothing intentional. Other than that there hasn't been an issue this spring. Give the guy a break--we are seeing what the whole team had to put up with last year with BV--he (BV), is  a ticking time bomb--good luck SHU---hopefully the PR from hiring him won't be 100 % bad.

     
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    We have an outfielder who I think is flying under the rader. He fields and runs like Sweeney but hits with power. 19hrs last year in something like 400 ABS in minors I believe last year.  His name is Jeremy Hazelbaker (spelling?). Any chance he makes the rooster?

     

     

     

        

     
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    Re: Peter Abraham vs. your 25 man roster

    trade salt and put lava at catch

     
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    Re: Peter Abraham vs. your 25 man roster

    In response to BuritoT's comment:

    Abraham's

    ROTATION (5)
    LHP Jon Lester
    RHP Clay Buchholz
    RHP Ryan Dempster
    LHP Felix Doubront
    RHP John Lackey

    BULLPEN (7)
    RHP Joel Hanrahan
    RHP Andrew Bailey
    RHP Junichi Tazawa
    RHP Koji Uehara
    LHP Franklin Morales
    LHP Andrew Miller
    RHP Clayton Mortensen

    LINEUP (9)
    CF Jacoby Ellsbury
    2B Dustin Pedroia
    DH David Ortiz
    1B Mike Napoli
    3B Will Middlebrooks
    LF Jonny Gomes
    RF Shane Victorino
    SS Stephen Drew
    C Jarrod Saltalamacchia

    BENCH (4)
    C David Ross
    1B-LF Mike Carp
    2B-SS-3B Pedro Ciriaco
    RF-CF-LF Ryan Sweeney

    Mine:

    ROTATION (5)
    LHP Jon Lester
    RHP Clay Buchholz
    RHP Ryan Dempster
    LHP Felix Doubront
    RHP John Lackey

    BULLPEN (7)
    RHP Joel Hanrahan
    RHP Andrew Bailey
    RHP Junichi Tazawa
    RHP Koji Uehara
    RHP Allen Webster
    LHP Andrew Miller
    RHP Rubby De La Rosa   

    LINEUP (9)
    LF Jackie Bradley

    CF Jacoby Ellsbury
    2B Dustin Pedroia
    DH David Ortiz
    1B Mike Napoli
    3B Will Middlebrooks
    RF Shane Victorino
    SS Stephen Drew
    C Jarrod Saltalamacchia

    BENCH (4)
    C David Ross
    1B-LF Mike Carp
    2B-SS-3B Pedro Ciriaco
    RF-CF-LF Ryan Sweeney

    Yours?




    Is that you Edith?

     
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    Re: Peter Abraham vs. your 25 man roster

    Wow! When you see it written down it's unremarkable.

     
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    Re: Peter Abraham vs. your 25 man roster

    In response to soxnewmex's comment:

    trade salt and put lava at catch




    on what basis??

     
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    Re: Peter Abraham vs. your 25 man roster

    In response to BosoxJoe5's comment:

    Mort out Bard in. I like Sweeney has the forth and Nava has option. Let Nava work at first and become a 1b/LF instead of just a LF. If JBJ makes the then Gomes slides down.



    Bard does not make the ML roster until he proves he can pitch again, and thats done at the AAA level. I think they ruined him for good last year with their ill-advised attempt to make him a SP and change his mechanics.

     
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    In response to Triumph-'s comment:

    In response to Alibiike's comment:

     

    Wow! When you see it written down it's unremarkable.

     




     

     

     

    Like your posting



    Thanks! I like yours too.

     
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    Re: Peter Abraham vs. your 25 man roster

    In response to softlaw2's comment:

    Dumpster shouldn't be on the roster until he proves he can pitch v. AL lineups.



    Trouble spelling? you have the same trouble with Wake. You have been an irritant far too long. You're right this is not the first time we have confronted one another. Bullies are not appreciated in society today. 

    I feel badly I'm saying these things because I feel I'm stooping to your level

    What causes you to degrade nice guys like Wakefield and Dempster? Are  you jealous they make more money than you do or they have more talent and friends than you do. Just what exactly is it?

     
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    Re: Peter Abraham vs. your 25 man roster

    In response to Strangeglove's comment:

    We have an outfielder who I think is flying under the rader. He fields and runs like Sweeney but hits with power. 19hrs last year in something like 400 ABS in minors I believe last year.  His name is Jeremy Hazelbaker (spelling?). Any chance he makes the rooster?

     

     

     

        




    He'd be a nice bench player...Great speed, good bat and can play all OF positions.

     
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    Re: Peter Abraham vs. your 25 man roster

    In response to mef429's comment:

    In response to soxnewmex's comment:

     

    trade salt and put lava at catch

     




    on what basis??

     

    upside and AAA track record and fresh blood and gut feeling and organization catching depth and not a salt fan (as a player, like him personally), want bradley starting in outfield too, but don't want iggy starting at ss unless and until he proves he can hit AAA

     




     
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    Re: Peter Abraham vs. your 25 man roster

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    trade salt and put lava at catch

     




    on what basis??

     

    upside and AAA track record and fresh blood and gut feeling and organization catching depth and not a salt fan (as a player, like him personally), want bradley starting in outfield too, but don't want iggy starting at ss unless and until he proves he can hit AAA

     

     




     




    i disagree with your analysis on salty and lava but i respect your opinion.

     
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    Re: Peter Abraham vs. your 25 man roster

    In response to carnie's comment:

    In response to BuritoT's comment:

     

    Abraham's

    ROTATION (5)
    LHP Jon Lester
    RHP Clay Buchholz
    RHP Ryan Dempster
    LHP Felix Doubront
    RHP John Lackey

    BULLPEN (7)
    RHP Joel Hanrahan
    RHP Andrew Bailey
    RHP Junichi Tazawa
    RHP Koji Uehara
    LHP Franklin Morales
    LHP Andrew Miller
    RHP Clayton Mortensen

    LINEUP (9)
    CF Jacoby Ellsbury
    2B Dustin Pedroia
    DH David Ortiz
    1B Mike Napoli
    3B Will Middlebrooks
    LF Jonny Gomes
    RF Shane Victorino
    SS Stephen Drew
    C Jarrod Saltalamacchia

    BENCH (4)
    C David Ross
    1B-LF Mike Carp
    2B-SS-3B Pedro Ciriaco
    RF-CF-LF Ryan Sweeney

    Mine:

    ROTATION (5)
    LHP Jon Lester
    RHP Clay Buchholz
    RHP Ryan Dempster
    LHP Felix Doubront
    RHP John Lackey

    BULLPEN (7)
    RHP Joel Hanrahan
    RHP Andrew Bailey
    RHP Junichi Tazawa
    RHP Koji Uehara
    RHP Allen Webster
    LHP Andrew Miller
    RHP Rubby De La Rosa   

    LINEUP (9)
    LF Jackie Bradley

    CF Jacoby Ellsbury
    2B Dustin Pedroia
    DH David Ortiz
    1B Mike Napoli
    3B Will Middlebrooks
    RF Shane Victorino
    SS Stephen Drew
    C Jarrod Saltalamacchia

    BENCH (4)
    C David Ross
    1B-LF Mike Carp
    2B-SS-3B Pedro Ciriaco
    RF-CF-LF Ryan Sweeney

    Yours?

     




    Is that you Edith?

     




     

    Yes it is. +1

     
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    Re: Peter Abraham vs. your 25 man roster

    In response to softlaw2's comment:

    Dumpster shouldn't be on the roster until he proves he can pitch v. AL lineups.



    He was 8-4 against the AL with reasonable stats.

    Seriously, I heard they have this thing called the internet, where you can look stuff up.

     
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    Re: Peter Abraham vs. your 25 man roster

    In response to softlaw2's comment:

    Joe, "reasonable stats" is not a 5 plus ERA and a 1.43 WHIP. "Seriously, Joe, look up his Stats with the Rangers.

    Joe, I've noted you are high on Dumpster. At 13.25 million a year, he's going to get lit up in the AL EAst. You have a lot of confidence in him and think "reasonable stats".  He's a bum, and an old bum



    Again, you're wrong.  You just don't know why yet.  Best part is that I knew the mistake you were going to make, I set you up to make the mistake, and you stepped into it.

    LMK when you want me to tell you your mistake.

     
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    Re: Peter Abraham vs. your 25 man roster

    In response to softlaw2's comment:

    The issue is that Dumpster is  being paid to be an elite pitcher, after stinking it up with the AL Rangers.



    uhhhhh you are aware of the going rate for elite pitchers right??? and 13 Mil is NOT it....

     
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    Re: Peter Abraham vs. your 25 man roster

    In response to softlaw2's comment:

    Bullies are not appreciated in society today. 

    In fact, it's the Left who constitute the bullies in society, today. The left pretends that they are the arbiters of what behavior is appropriate. I don't mind it when they try and bully me by calling me a bully.

    I feel badly I'm saying these things because I feel I'm stooping to your level

    What causes you to degrade nice guys like Wakefield and Dempster? Are  you jealous they make more money than you do or they have more talent and friends than you do. Just what exactly is it?

    Dumpster and Wastfield aren't "nice guys", but that's not the issue. The issue is that Dumpster is  being paid to be an elite pitcher, after stinking it up with the AL Rangers. Nice guys don't say "they deserve to see me". You need to do your research on this "nice guy" Dumpster.



    Last year Dempster had a combined ERA of 3.38, a WHIP of 1.197 and a record of 12-8.

    He was 5-5 after 16 starts with the Cubs with a 2.25 ERA and  a WHIP of 1.038. I would say the Cubs didn't help him much last year. Moving to the AL West--tough division--7-3--ERA a dot over 5 and a 7-3 record. He has started a total of 12 games in the AL with just 69 IP. 

    I'm thinking he will be a student of the game, very similar to Curt Schilling.

    I agree it's not elite but it is better than most starting pitchers in 2012. I think it's remarkable that Dempster signed with the Sox. I like him and I like his personality. I love veteran pitchers that know how to pitch and will share their knowledge with anyone that is inquisitive enough to ask.

    As far as money--if the Sox didn't have it they wouldn't spend it. I like the signing--if he tanks in Boston I bet there will be a club at the deadline willing to take him. By the way Softy how much would you have been willing to pay a guy like Ryan Dempster with his combined stats for 2012? 

     
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