pitchers out of shape

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    For all that's good about the Sox this year - and there's plenty, management let these guys come to camp out of shape, Dubront and Hanrahan are two exampes with the later probably needing Tommy John cause his legs were atrophied, and has pitched well all spring or early season - he's done for the year!

     
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    TJ surgery - if indeed Hanrahan needs it - is not a result of poor conditioning...

     
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    TJ surgery - if indeed Hanrahan needs it - is not a result of poor conditioning...



    I disagree. If you use strong legs you don;t put undue strain on the elbow

     
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    TJ surgery - if indeed Hanrahan needs it - is not a result of poor conditioning...

     



    I disagree. If you use strong legs you don;t put undue strain on the elbow

     




    While its not a direct cause, it certainly can contribute to the stress put on the elbow if your legs are relatively weak for your body mass, I would think. I wonder if anyone has ever really looked at this objectively to see if the need for TJS is related to body mass index.

     
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    In response to jader's comment:

    For all that's good about the Sox this year - and there's plenty, management let these guys come to camp out of shape, Dubront and Hanrahan are two exampes with the later probably needing Tommy John cause his legs were atrophied, and has pitched well all spring or early season - he's done for the year!



    His legs weren't atrophied. This is a stilly premise. If he needs TJ it because of his elbow not his legs.

     
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    TJ surgery - if indeed Hanrahan needs it - is not a result of poor conditioning...

     



    I disagree. If you use strong legs you don;t put undue strain on the elbow

     

     




    While its not a direct cause, it certainly can contribute to the stress put on the elbow if your legs are relatively weak for your body mass, I would think. I wonder if anyone has ever really looked at this objectively to see if the need for TJS is related to body mass index.

     


    Tazawa needed it and he is really tiny.

     
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    TJ surgery - if indeed Hanrahan needs it - is not a result of poor conditioning...

     



    I disagree. If you use strong legs you don;t put undue strain on the elbow

     

     




    While its not a direct cause, it certainly can contribute to the stress put on the elbow if your legs are relatively weak for your body mass, I would think. I wonder if anyone has ever really looked at this objectively to see if the need for TJS is related to body mass index.

     

     


    Tazawa needed it and he is really tiny.

     




    I know there are small pitchers who need it, so obviously its not 100%. I am just wondering if a high BMI correlates with need for TJS, even if its not a 100% correlation. To my knowledge that study has not been done.

     
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    In response to jader's comment:
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    For all that's good about the Sox this year - and there's plenty, management let these guys come to camp out of shape, Dubront and Hanrahan are two exampes with the later probably needing Tommy John cause his legs were atrophied, and has pitched well all spring or early season - he's done for the year!

    I agree with you pitchers being out of shape, it is a problem. I called my orthopedic surgeon, a  friend I have know all my life & will ask him this, if he ever gets his azz off the golf course.

     

     
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    TJ surgery - if indeed Hanrahan needs it - is not a result of poor conditioning...

     



    I disagree. If you use strong legs you don;t put undue strain on the elbow

     

     




    While its not a direct cause, it certainly can contribute to the stress put on the elbow if your legs are relatively weak for your body mass, I would think. I wonder if anyone has ever really looked at this objectively to see if the need for TJS is related to body mass index.

     

     


    Tazawa needed it and he is really tiny.

     

     




    I know there are small pitchers who need it, so obviously its not 100%. I am just wondering if a high BMI correlates with need for TJS, even if its not a 100% correlation. To my knowledge that study has not been done.

     



    If BMI is a factor,  expect CC Sabathia and Heath Bell to be the next two under the knife. 

    Followed closely by Tommy Hunter...

     
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    In response to jader's comment:

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    TJ surgery - if indeed Hanrahan needs it - is not a result of poor conditioning...

     



    I disagree. If you use strong legs you don;t put undue strain on the elbow

     



    I'd also have to question how you know he whether or not he has strong legs.  One of my friends was a marathon runner, and now works in a hotel.  He's put a good sized gut, because he likes his beer, but he is strong as a bull.  If you saw us side-by-side, you'd swear I was in better shape, but it is not remotely close.

     
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    I won't believe it until Dr. softy concurs.

     
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