Re: Pitching acquisition ideas.
posted at 12/24/2011 1:20 AM EST
In Response to Re: Pitching acquisition ideas.
In Response to Re: Pitching acquisition ideas. : Agree with 1st part of this statement. Bard can't go to rotation unless RS get Bailey/Madsen type or Bard stays and RS aquire 4-5 type starters, its either or. As for assesment of Middlebrooks be careful! If he takes another jump like last year he could be in majors next year making an impact. Even the experts are wrong a lot. Always tough to predict potential or a players ceiling. How many scouts told us Youk would never hit more than 20 hrs because he didn't do it in minors, or did anyone ever see Jacoby hitting 30 hrs and having an MVP type year, or Pedroia becoming the player he has based on his size and swing type? Or remember when M.Bowden was going to be next big RS starting pitcher? Midlebrooks has made himself into one of the top RS prospects and until he proves otherwise there is a lot to like.
Posted by garyhow
Well, one way or another, my assessment of Middlebrooks is immaterial. And maybe you remember I was among those who said Youkilis would never hit 30HRs (although I was always critical of Richie Sexson). Technically, Youkilis hasn’t, but he has come close enough for me to admit I was wrong about him. (In fact, the year he hit 29, didn’t he have that one that rolled along the top of the wall in KC that was like millimeters from being a HR? Or was it the wall topper in NY That Youk hit?)
However, were you posting here for my Pedroia assessments buried deep in these archives, you might recall I frequently compared him to Chase Utley for Dustin’s doubters. And while Pedroia didn’t quite reach that level, he came close enough that I can call it a victory.
I’m not so much working off scouting material as I am off what Middlebrooks has been doing. Prospects can go either way –they are lottery tickets. And while half the board is giving “sell high” reasons to deal Ellsbury, to me it makes more sense to sell the lottery ticket while it’s high. Even if Middlebrooks does pan out, he can certainly be dealt for a player we KNOW can pitch at this level. I’m OK with giving quality to get quality.
If we evaluate Middlebrooks’ career to date, there are some red flags with him that definitely should raise some doubt, and I disagree that simply climbing to the tops of the organization rankings alleviates them. We all thought Lars Anderson was the next big thing at some point, too, and he fell completely off the radar. In fact, there might be more to like about Anderson than Middlebrooks even now. Lars is still only one year older, and, last year in his age 23 season, Anderson hit .265/.369/.422 with 14HRs and 120/80 K/BB in AAA. He is considered a disappointment. At 22, Middlebrooks hit .302/.345/.522 with 18HRs and 95/21 K/BB in AA and is considered the top prospect. Granted, there are factors related to defense and position at play in there, too, but Anderson also dealt with a lot more nagging injuries. And at age 22, Anderson played very little AA ball, but got off to such a dominant start he was promoted almost immediately and played modestly well at the higher level.
But let’s not have another Lars Anderson argument…