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    usually you're damned WRONG when you agree with TITO.
     
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    [QUOTE]spaceman, bill lee has the IQ of a genius; perhaps you should change your moniker.
    Posted by the-yazzer[/QUOTE]

    still waiting for that grammar lesson kiddo.
     
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    [QUOTE]Didn't Masterson struggle after he left the Red Sox and only got it together late last year?  Lefties are batting 302 against him this year.  He's got a career era of 4.05. Bard has a career ERA of 2.65.  And even though he had a rough outing last night, opponents are batting .159 against for the month of May. Masterson had his slider working against lefties last night.  That doesn't happen too often for him.
    Posted by DirtyWaterLover[/QUOTE]

    It's worked for him this year -- he's 5-2 with an ERA under three!
     
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    Terrible decision. It's not pitch count, it's whether the pitcher is fatigued or not and whether he still has good mechanics and form or not. Buch was beginning to tire and miss more locations, but letting him go another 2 or 3 hitters was not going to put him on the DL.
     
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    [QUOTE]Terrible decision. It's not pitch count, it's whether the pitcher is fatigued or not and whether he still has good mechanics and form or not. Buch was beginning to tire and miss more locations, but letting him go another 2 or 3 hitters was not going to put him on the DL.
    Posted by SoxSoldRed[/QUOTE]

    If, as you point out, he was beginning to tire and miss locations, isn't that teh same as saying he was fatigued and/or faltering in mechanics?  If fatigue/loss mechanics is your guideline for pulling a pitcher, what was so 'terrible' about the decision?
     
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    [QUOTE]Terrible decision. It's not pitch count, it's whether the pitcher is fatigued or not and whether he still has good mechanics and form or not. Buch was beginning to tire and miss more locations, but letting him go another 2 or 3 hitters was not going to put him on the DL.
    Posted by SoxSoldRed[/QUOTE]
    So Buch was "beginning to tire and miss more locations," but you'd have left him in?
     
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    [QUOTE]Why couldn't the Red Sox have developed Masterson? Why did they bury him somewhere in the collection of relievers, not a closer; not even a set-up man?  Are they really bringing out the best in Bard? It doesn't seem so to me.  
    Posted by dehud[/QUOTE]In part because they weren't in a positon to carry a pitcher for a season and third while he goes 7-20 while posting a 4.70 ERA, a 1.575 WHIP and averages under 6 IP a start while he learned on the job how to command his pitches.

    He still struggles with LH hitters but he so much stronger versus RH that it has become much less problematic for him at the start of 2011 season. But that vulnerability certainly created limitations on how he was going to deployed on a win now, win always RS team. 
     
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    WinkListen here all you Francona bashers, your talking about a Manager who won 2 World Series all by himself.  At least I think he did.  GO SOX!
     
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    There was No Rocket science decision to make last night, in fact it's a long time tradition in MLB dating back 100 years... YOU WALK THE HOTTEST HITTER IN THE GAME WHEN THE GO AHEAD RUN IS IN SCORING POSITION AND YOU HAVE A BASE OPEN WITH A GUY HITTING .246, STRIKING OUT TWICE IN THE GAME ALREADY, ON DECK !! You will never get any easier call then that !!
     
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    [QUOTE]Listen here all you Francona bashers, your talking about a Manager who won 2 World Series all by himself.  At least I think he did.  GO SOX!
    Posted by lucbom[/QUOTE]
    I don't think anyone is suggesting he did it by himself. That would be ignorant. Of course, it's also ignorant to suggest he had nothing to do with them.
     
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    Putting aside the Tito debate, while watching last nights game I kept thinking how great it would have been if Bard had a split finger pitch to compliment his 98 mph fastball and 88 mph slider. He seems to be getting predictable in his young career.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: pitching decisions : still waiting for that grammar lesson kiddo.
    Posted by SpacemanEephus[/QUOTE]


    I fully agree. He don't talk good.

    Undecided

    His language is brittle!
     
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    Get a clue folks. Hill has been throwing near unhittable strikes for some time now. Tito finally acknowledged using him in the set-up role to compliment Bard.

    It only took 2-3 weeks for this to finally sink in.
     
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    [QUOTE]Terrible decision. It's not pitch count, it's whether the pitcher is fatigued or not and whether he still has good mechanics and form or not. Buch was beginning to tire and miss more locations, but letting him go another 2 or 3 hitters was not going to put him on the DL.
    Posted by SoxSoldRed[/QUOTE]
    I am also going to quote this to point out the absurdity of this post. Letting him go another two or three hitters would have saved Bard the blown save and giving the Indians the win a few minutes sooner.
     
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