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    He cannot hit a lick. This is who he is and he is not going to ever be Jacoby Ellsbury. He is a defensive late inning replacement who you can put into a game to pinch run. This is who he is a major league minimum player who cannot get on base by either walking or hitting his way on base. The FO sold him as a good alternative to Ellsbury. Currently he is in an 0-27 slump and needs to be sent down to Triple AAA Pawtucke to get additional instruction before his confidence is completely gone. What scares me is that I noticed he cannot hit a fastball and his swing is shaky at best. Didn't they notice this down in Triple AAA?




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    Sorry but I do notice things like I did in Iraq after 13 months there. I do not drink kook aide and like honest evaluations not yes men who tell me what I want to hear. I guess the truth hurts.



    Soooo is that what you think the Sox front office is filled with? Yes men who have no ideal what they are doing.  And therefore they have absolutely no ability to scout and develop players???? because the overall long term track record suggests the exact opposite. 



    Their recent track record (the last six years) stinks. Two last place finishes in three years; one year in six in which they won a playoff game; big budget. I have no faith in those in charge of this franchise.

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    in that time span they've made it to the playoffs 1/3 of the time with 1 world series win.

    Maybe you don't have faith in them....but that is still a heck of a lot better than most other teams out there.  Strong run in 2011 would make that track record look a whole lot different.  2011 was the weirdest season I've ever watched.  Couldn't win a game the first month, couldn't win a game the last month but for 2/3 of the season inbetween they had one of the most dominating stretches by a baseball team in the past couple decades. 

    Also it's easy to cut off at 6 years (when I said decade) when they made the playoffs almost every year going back before then (08 and earlier) under the same management. 

     
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    He cannot hit a lick. This is who he is and he is not going to ever be Jacoby Ellsbury. He is a defensive late inning replacement who you can put into a game to pinch run. This is who he is a major league minimum player who cannot get on base by either walking or hitting his way on base. The FO sold him as a good alternative to Ellsbury. Currently he is in an 0-27 slump and needs to be sent down to Triple AAA Pawtucke to get additional instruction before his confidence is completely gone. What scares me is that I noticed he cannot hit a fastball and his swing is shaky at best. Didn't they notice this down in Triple AAA?




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    Sorry but I do notice things like I did in Iraq after 13 months there. I do not drink kook aide and like honest evaluations not yes men who tell me what I want to hear. I guess the truth hurts.



    Soooo is that what you think the Sox front office is filled with? Yes men who have no ideal what they are doing.  And therefore they have absolutely no ability to scout and develop players???? because the overall long term track record suggests the exact opposite. 



    Their recent track record (the last six years) stinks. Two last place finishes in three years; one year in six in which they won a playoff game; big budget. I have no faith in those in charge of this franchise.

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    in that time span they've made it to the playoffs 1/3 of the time with 1 world series win.

    Maybe you don't have faith in them....but that is still a heck of a lot better than most other teams out there.  Strong run in 2011 would make that track record look a whole lot different.  2011 was the weirdest season I've ever watched.  Couldn't win a game the first month, couldn't win a game the last month but for 2/3 of the season inbetween they had one of the most dominating stretches by a baseball team in the past couple decades. 

    Also it's easy to cut off at 6 years (when I said decade) when they made the playoffs almost every year going back before then (08 and earlier) under the same management. 



    There are 15 AL teams; five of them make the playoffs. Thats a 1/3 chance of making the playoffs if it were a random event. Making the playoffs at the same frequency as a random event is remarkably unimpressive. Yes, the second WC is more recent, but our success record, IMO, stinks over the past six years. And its not really the same management: Cherington is new. Also, I read a stat recently that over the past 500 games or so the Red Sox are a .500 team. Next year looks pretty iffy too, and if they don't produce a playoff team, heads should roll. Lots of them.

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    also, their is still 2 months left and you've already categorized the Sox as a last place team 2 out of 3 years.  

    Granted, if I had to place my bets I'd say we finish last, but you never know.  If a couple of these young pitchers do alright and Cespeds and Bogaerts spark the offense coupled with a team like Tampa or NY crumbling we could easily finish 4th.

    If we do finish last I want a top 10 draft pick.

    A protected pick.  We could hypothetically go out and sign Lester and Scherzer or Hanram (dump WMB and put him at 3rd) and still hold onto our first draft pick.  We'd lose our second but we gained a second in the Lester trade. 

     
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    He cannot hit a lick. This is who he is and he is not going to ever be Jacoby Ellsbury. He is a defensive late inning replacement who you can put into a game to pinch run. This is who he is a major league minimum player who cannot get on base by either walking or hitting his way on base. The FO sold him as a good alternative to Ellsbury. Currently he is in an 0-27 slump and needs to be sent down to Triple AAA Pawtucke to get additional instruction before his confidence is completely gone. What scares me is that I noticed he cannot hit a fastball and his swing is shaky at best. Didn't they notice this down in Triple AAA?




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    Sorry but I do notice things like I did in Iraq after 13 months there. I do not drink kook aide and like honest evaluations not yes men who tell me what I want to hear. I guess the truth hurts.



    Soooo is that what you think the Sox front office is filled with? Yes men who have no ideal what they are doing.  And therefore they have absolutely no ability to scout and develop players???? because the overall long term track record suggests the exact opposite. 



    Their recent track record (the last six years) stinks. Two last place finishes in three years; one year in six in which they won a playoff game; big budget. I have no faith in those in charge of this franchise.

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    in that time span they've made it to the playoffs 1/3 of the time with 1 world series win.

    Maybe you don't have faith in them....but that is still a heck of a lot better than most other teams out there.  Strong run in 2011 would make that track record look a whole lot different.  2011 was the weirdest season I've ever watched.  Couldn't win a game the first month, couldn't win a game the last month but for 2/3 of the season inbetween they had one of the most dominating stretches by a baseball team in the past couple decades. 

    Also it's easy to cut off at 6 years (when I said decade) when they made the playoffs almost every year going back before then (08 and earlier) under the same management. 



    There are 15 AL teams; five of them make the playoffs. Thats a 1/3 chance of making the playoffs if it were a random event. Making the playoffs at the same frequency as a random event is remarkably unimpressive. Yes, the second WC is more recent, but our success record, IMO, stinks over the past six years. And its not really the same management: Cherington is new. Also, I read a stat recently that over the past 500 games or so the Red Sox are a .500 team. Next year looks pretty iffy too, and if they don't produce a playoff team, heads should roll. Lots of them.

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    No you're talking stats.

    A, how many teams at the top have made it every year over a smaller sample size???

    and again, you are using a small arbitrary sample size? 6 years looks bad, if we go 8 or 10 it looks really good.  If we go 3 I think it looks really really really good.  1/3 of the time winning a world series??? heck if we go with a 2 year sample size we win the world series 50% of the time.  A 1 year sample size (presumably) we are a last place team 100% of the time.

    Catch my drift??? you can alter a sample size to make almost any point you want. 

     
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    AL, I'm at the park on Saturday...how's that for commitment (punishment?)...


    Not exactly in terms of where I wanted to sit, but Angels fans are the ones with the tix. Still I found many sections available for a Sat. game...it's California, everything is open to the last minute.

    On the upside I bet it was pretty easy to get tickets.




     
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    He cannot hit a lick. This is who he is and he is not going to ever be Jacoby Ellsbury. He is a defensive late inning replacement who you can put into a game to pinch run. This is who he is a major league minimum player who cannot get on base by either walking or hitting his way on base. The FO sold him as a good alternative to Ellsbury. Currently he is in an 0-27 slump and needs to be sent down to Triple AAA Pawtucke to get additional instruction before his confidence is completely gone. What scares me is that I noticed he cannot hit a fastball and his swing is shaky at best. Didn't they notice this down in Triple AAA?




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    Sorry but I do notice things like I did in Iraq after 13 months there. I do not drink kook aide and like honest evaluations not yes men who tell me what I want to hear. I guess the truth hurts.



    Soooo is that what you think the Sox front office is filled with? Yes men who have no ideal what they are doing.  And therefore they have absolutely no ability to scout and develop players???? because the overall long term track record suggests the exact opposite. 



    Yeah I think Luchinno is the real GM and Young Ben is his errand/coffee boy.

     
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    AL, I'm at the park on Saturday...how's that for commitment (punishment?)...


    Not exactly in terms of where I wanted to sit, but Angels fans are the ones with the tix. Still I found many sections available for a Sat. game...it's California, everything is open to the last minute.

    On the upside I bet it was pretty easy to get tickets.






    That's dedication. Danny I said last year that JBJ could not hit and I was hoping I was wrong about that.

     
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    AL, I'm at the park on Saturday...how's that for commitment (punishment?)...


    Not exactly in terms of where I wanted to sit, but Angels fans are the ones with the tix. Still I found many sections available for a Sat. game...it's California, everything is open to the last minute.

    On the upside I bet it was pretty easy to get tickets.






    That's dedication. Danny I said last year that JBJ could not hit and I was hoping I was wrong about that.




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    Yeah, nothing says sacrifice and suffering for the cause like wiling a way a socal evening at the ballpark eating peanuts and drinking beer.

     
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    Yeah I think Luchinno is the real GM and Young Ben is his errand/coffee boy.




    Of course you do, and I bet you think that because of the Bobby Valentine decision too don't you???

     
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    There are 15 AL teams; five of them make the playoffs. Thats a 1/3 chance of making the playoffs if it were a random event. Making the playoffs at the same frequency as a random event is remarkably unimpressive. Yes, the second WC is more recent, but our success record, IMO, stinks over the past six years. And its not really the same management: Cherington is new. Also, I read a stat recently that over the past 500 games or so the Red Sox are a .500 team. Next year looks pretty iffy too, and if they don't produce a playoff team, heads should roll. Lots of them.

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    It's not a random event to make the playoffs, but even assuming it is, it's not 1 in 3 because it's not a single random event.  It's 2 distinct random events.  Make the playoffs as a division winner or make the playoffs as a wildcard.

    Getting in as a division winner as a random event, you have a 1 in 5 chance of making the playoffs.  You are only competing against the teams in your division.

    Getting in as a wild card as a random event, you have a 1 in 6 chance of making the playoffs (2 out of 12).  You are competing against the 12 non-division champions. 

     
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    AL, I'm at the park on Saturday...how's that for commitment (punishment?)...


    Not exactly in terms of where I wanted to sit, but Angels fans are the ones with the tix. Still I found many sections available for a Sat. game...it's California, everything is open to the last minute.

    On the upside I bet it was pretty easy to get tickets.







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    It's got to be the saddest case since Pokey Reese. Jackie Bradley has 132 strikeouts in 463 career PA or one K in every 3.5 PA. He has 30 career extra-base hits, 1 in every 15.4 PA. And he has 39 career walks or 1 in every 12 PA....This is why our Gold Glove CF can't play every day or can't be considered a viable every day player. And it sucks because you can't find a better thrower/fielder. At least Reese had some full-time seasons and had 2 GGs and got through 8 MLB seasons...I don't see JBJ being around much longer even as a utility fielder. Outfielders simply have to hit somewhat to remain. It sucks, I like the guy a lot. I'm pulling for him, but it's getting close to pulling the plug...In 3100 plus PA, Reese K'd on average once every 5.9 PA....Bradley again 1 every 3.5...Reese homered once every 71 PA...Bradley has homered once every 115.8 PA...That's disgusting.




    Strike Out numbers not much worse than Napoli's were a month ago. But, lately, JBJ's numbers have gotten significantly worse.

     
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    It's got to be the saddest case since Pokey Reese. Jackie Bradley has 132 strikeouts in 463 career PA or one K in every 3.5 PA. He has 30 career extra-base hits, 1 in every 15.4 PA. And he has 39 career walks or 1 in every 12 PA....This is why our Gold Glove CF can't play every day or can't be considered a viable every day player. And it sucks because you can't find a better thrower/fielder. At least Reese had some full-time seasons and had 2 GGs and got through 8 MLB seasons...I don't see JBJ being around much longer even as a utility fielder. Outfielders simply have to hit somewhat to remain. It sucks, I like the guy a lot. I'm pulling for him, but it's getting close to pulling the plug...In 3100 plus PA, Reese K'd on average once every 5.9 PA....Bradley again 1 every 3.5...Reese homered once every 71 PA...Bradley has homered once every 115.8 PA...That's disgusting.




    Strike Out numbers not much worse than Napoli's were a month ago. But, lately, JBJ's numbers have gotten significantly worse.



    Jackie Bradley looked much better the last half of June and most of July, he had a really good 6 weeks stretch.  Not just in the numbers but he looked better at the plate as well.  I can concede the "hour is getting late" but I think he showed enough there to at least let it ride the rest of the season.

    If he made adjustments once to MLB pitching and hit it for an entire month, there's a chance he could do it again. 

     
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    It's got to be the saddest case since Pokey Reese. Jackie Bradley has 132 strikeouts in 463 career PA or one K in every 3.5 PA. He has 30 career extra-base hits, 1 in every 15.4 PA. And he has 39 career walks or 1 in every 12 PA....This is why our Gold Glove CF can't play every day or can't be considered a viable every day player. And it sucks because you can't find a better thrower/fielder. At least Reese had some full-time seasons and had 2 GGs and got through 8 MLB seasons...I don't see JBJ being around much longer even as a utility fielder. Outfielders simply have to hit somewhat to remain. It sucks, I like the guy a lot. I'm pulling for him, but it's getting close to pulling the plug...In 3100 plus PA, Reese K'd on average once every 5.9 PA....Bradley again 1 every 3.5...Reese homered once every 71 PA...Bradley has homered once every 115.8 PA...That's disgusting.




    Strike Out numbers not much worse than Napoli's were a month ago. But, lately, JBJ's numbers have gotten significantly worse.



    Jackie Bradley looked much better the last half of June and most of July, he had a really good 6 weeks stretch.  Not just in the numbers but he looked better at the plate as well.  I can concede the "hour is getting late" but I think he showed enough there to at least let it ride the rest of the season.

    If he made adjustments once to MLB pitching and hit it for an entire month, there's a chance he could do it again. 




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    AL, I'm at the park on Saturday...how's that for commitment (punishment?)...


    Not exactly in terms of where I wanted to sit, but Angels fans are the ones with the tix. Still I found many sections available for a Sat. game...it's California, everything is open to the last minute.

    On the upside I bet it was pretty easy to get tickets.






    That's dedication. Danny I said last year that JBJ could not hit and I was hoping I was wrong about that.




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    Yeah, nothing says sacrifice and suffering for the cause like wiling a way a socal evening at the ballpark eating peanuts and drinking beer.



    Well, hard thing isn't that part, the hard part is wearing my Sox garb and my answer to Angels fans who start snickering that we are 15 under .500.....then my comeback line is "oh yeah, well won the WS last year" and "we have 3 WS titles in the last 10 years, how many do you got?" But it all seems hollow when your team is 15 under .500. It just takes the fun away from sticking it to the Halos following.

     
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    AL, I'm at the park on Saturday...how's that for commitment (punishment?)...


    Not exactly in terms of where I wanted to sit, but Angels fans are the ones with the tix. Still I found many sections available for a Sat. game...it's California, everything is open to the last minute.

    On the upside I bet it was pretty easy to get tickets.







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    Thanks! my kid is coming with me, so she gets to suffer with me...:-)

     
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    AL, I'm at the park on Saturday...how's that for commitment (punishment?)...


    Not exactly in terms of where I wanted to sit, but Angels fans are the ones with the tix. Still I found many sections available for a Sat. game...it's California, everything is open to the last minute.

    On the upside I bet it was pretty easy to get tickets.







    You are a great fan, have fun or at least try!



    Thanks! my kid is coming with me, so she gets to suffer with me...:-)



    Every Sox fan should endure some kind of suffering, it's what made 2004 so awesome.

     

     
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    Re: Poor JBJr

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    He cannot hit a lick. This is who he is and he is not going to ever be Jacoby Ellsbury. He is a defensive late inning replacement who you can put into a game to pinch run. This is who he is a major league minimum player who cannot get on base by either walking or hitting his way on base. The FO sold him as a good alternative to Ellsbury. Currently he is in an 0-27 slump and needs to be sent down to Triple AAA Pawtucke to get additional instruction before his confidence is completely gone. What scares me is that I noticed he cannot hit a fastball and his swing is shaky at best. Didn't they notice this down in Triple AAA?




    I guess they didn't.....maybe they should hire you as a scout. 

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    Sorry but I do notice things like I did in Iraq after 13 months there. I do not drink kook aide and like honest evaluations not yes men who tell me what I want to hear. I guess the truth hurts.



    Soooo is that what you think the Sox front office is filled with? Yes men who have no ideal what they are doing.  And therefore they have absolutely no ability to scout and develop players???? because the overall long term track record suggests the exact opposite. 



    Their recent track record (the last six years) stinks. Two last place finishes in three years; one year in six in which they won a playoff game; big budget. I have no faith in those in charge of this franchise.

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    Entitled much? 

     
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    He cannot hit a lick. This is who he is and he is not going to ever be Jacoby Ellsbury. He is a defensive late inning replacement who you can put into a game to pinch run. This is who he is a major league minimum player who cannot get on base by either walking or hitting his way on base. The FO sold him as a good alternative to Ellsbury. Currently he is in an 0-27 slump and needs to be sent down to Triple AAA Pawtucke to get additional instruction before his confidence is completely gone. What scares me is that I noticed he cannot hit a fastball and his swing is shaky at best. Didn't they notice this down in Triple AAA?




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    Sorry but I do notice things like I did in Iraq after 13 months there. I do not drink kook aide and like honest evaluations not yes men who tell me what I want to hear. I guess the truth hurts.



    Soooo is that what you think the Sox front office is filled with? Yes men who have no ideal what they are doing.  And therefore they have absolutely no ability to scout and develop players???? because the overall long term track record suggests the exact opposite. 



    Their recent track record (the last six years) stinks. Two last place finishes in three years; one year in six in which they won a playoff game; big budget. I have no faith in those in charge of this franchise.

    WE ARE ALL JUST POPPYSEEDS IN THE BAKERY OF LIFE

     



    in that time span they've made it to the playoffs 1/3 of the time with 1 world series win.

    Maybe you don't have faith in them....but that is still a heck of a lot better than most other teams out there.  Strong run in 2011 would make that track record look a whole lot different.  2011 was the weirdest season I've ever watched.  Couldn't win a game the first month, couldn't win a game the last month but for 2/3 of the season inbetween they had one of the most dominating stretches by a baseball team in the past couple decades. 

    Also it's easy to cut off at 6 years (when I said decade) when they made the playoffs almost every year going back before then (08 and earlier) under the same management. 



    There are 15 AL teams; five of them make the playoffs. Thats a 1/3 chance of making the playoffs if it were a random event. Making the playoffs at the same frequency as a random event is remarkably unimpressive. Yes, the second WC is more recent, but our success record, IMO, stinks over the past six years. And its not really the same management: Cherington is new. Also, I read a stat recently that over the past 500 games or so the Red Sox are a .500 team. Next year looks pretty iffy too, and if they don't produce a playoff team, heads should roll. Lots of them.

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    No you're talking stats.

    A, how many teams at the top have made it every year over a smaller sample size???

    and again, you are using a small arbitrary sample size? 6 years looks bad, if we go 8 or 10 it looks really good.  If we go 3 I think it looks really really really good.  1/3 of the time winning a world series??? heck if we go with a 2 year sample size we win the world series 50% of the time.  A 1 year sample size (presumably) we are a last place team 100% of the time.

    Catch my drift??? you can alter a sample size to make almost any point you want. 



    One other point: if the second wild card had existed for the full 6 years Pumpsie is referencing, the Red Sox would have been in the playoffs 4 times, since they had the 5th best record in both 2010 and 2011.

     

     
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    Re: Poor JBJr

    Last night's win may be the all-time example of why you can afford to keep a JBJR just for defensive late-inning purposes, brilliant catch to save Uehara in the 9th...and another nice running catch earlier in the 8th...guy is so freaking amazing in CF and can't hit....what a conundrum...that's what I mean by Poor JBJr....guy is so damn good defensively, it almost blinds you how bad he is as a hitter. It's just not fair. Will some batting coach or some bulb go on in his head to get him to hit just a little...If he could just hit .230, something to keep him on a roster. 

     
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    Jackie Robinson would be proud of this kid's defensive skiills

     
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    Re: Poor JBJr

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    Last night's win may be the all-time example of why you can afford to keep a JBJR just for defensive late-inning purposes, brilliant catch to save Uehara in the 9th...and another nice running catch earlier in the 8th...guy is so freaking amazing in CF and can't hit....what a conundrum...that's what I mean by Poor JBJr....guy is so damn good defensively, it almost blinds you how bad he is as a hitter. It's just not fair. Will some batting coach or some bulb go on in his head to get him to hit just a little...If he could just hit .230, something to keep him on a roster. 




    Last night's catch was as big a contribution as anything. His 0 for 25 does not seem to affect his defense, which is even more amazing.

     
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    Bradley said he turned his back on that ball, ran as hard as he could for three steps then turned around to find it again.

     

     
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    Bradley said he turned his back on that ball, ran as hard as he could for three steps then turned around to find it again.


     





    It is amazing when he does this and he does it with ease. I saw him do it at McCoy last season and I was sitting right behind the right field fence.

     
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    Last night's win may be the all-time example of why you can afford to keep a JBJR just for defensive late-inning purposes, brilliant catch to save Uehara in the 9th...and another nice running catch earlier in the 8th...guy is so freaking amazing in CF and can't hit....what a conundrum...that's what I mean by Poor JBJr....guy is so damn good defensively, it almost blinds you how bad he is as a hitter. It's just not fair. Will some batting coach or some bulb go on in his head to get him to hit just a little...If he could just hit .230, something to keep him on a roster. 




    This...this is why I make the argument for JBJ, the bar is set low.  We aren't asking him to bat .300 and I would think it would seem hopeless to assume such.  But is it really unreasonable to assume that someone who with 5 minor league teams batted .297/.404/.471 in the minors can't improve upon his numbers from his first 141 games??? Is it really unreasonable to assume a rookie will be able to improve his batting average by .14 points????

     

     

     

     
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