Pop without pitching will equal disaster! Will we get some QUALITY SP?

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    Pop without pitching will equal disaster! Will we get some QUALITY SP?

    Sure!  We've added a few mid-level second tier guys with some pop, but if we don't get a couple QUALITY SP, next year will be a huge disappointment.  I don't think we could possibly match the disaster of last season, but if we don't solve the SP problem, it could be ugly!!!!  Lackey must be dealt, and we need to pick up 2 HIGH LEVEL second tier pitchers!   If not????  We're in for a very long season.  I can live with the guys we've picked up.  These guys individually each have close game impact potential.  The big question is......  will our pitching keep it close???

     
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    Sure!  We've added a few mid-level second tier guys with some pop, but if we don't get a couple QUALITY SP, next year will be a huge disappointment.  I don't think we could possibly match the disaster of last season, but if we don't solve the SP problem, it could be ugly!!!!  Lackey must be dealt, and we need to pick up 2 HIGH LEVEL second tier pitchers!   If not????  We're in for a very long season.  I can live with the guys we've picked up.  These guys individually each have close game impact potential.  The big question is......  will our pitching keep it close???


    Today is December 5.

     
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    and we would get nothing for lackey. lets see what he can do when finally healthy

     
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    Sure!  We've added a few mid-level second tier guys with some pop, but if we don't get a couple QUALITY SP, next year will be a huge disappointment.  I don't think we could possibly match the disaster of last season, but if we don't solve the SP problem, it could be ugly!!!!  Lackey must be dealt, and we need to pick up 2 HIGH LEVEL second tier pitchers!   If not????  We're in for a very long season.  I can live with the guys we've picked up.  These guys individually each have close game impact potential.  The big question is......  will our pitching keep it close???

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    Not this year.

     
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    Sure!  We've added a few mid-level second tier guys with some pop, but if we don't get a couple QUALITY SP, next year will be a huge disappointment.  I don't think we could possibly match the disaster of last season, but if we don't solve the SP problem, it could be ugly!!!!  Lackey must be dealt, and we need to pick up 2 HIGH LEVEL second tier pitchers!   If not????  We're in for a very long season.  I can live with the guys we've picked up.  These guys individually each have close game impact potential.  The big question is......  will our pitching keep it close???

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    First off,  a lesson in FA 101. Somebody has to set the market before guys start signing. Grienke or Sanchez are probably the guys. Although guys like Guthrie who got 3 years and 8M per? That set the bar very high for even the lower teir pitchers.

    Dempster, Losche(sp?) and older guys (34-36) like that want 3 years and north of 12M per. I think a trade would be the way to go if possible. I can only imagine what Grienke and sanchez will get.

    FA is very expensive this year. Even more than usual.

    I think Jon and Clay will both be very good in 2013. Doubie should improve even more after a strong start and finish. Lackey is the question mark, but he wont be involved in any trade until GM's know he can pitch still. I see Bard as the wildcard in all this fo the back end of that bullpen.

    Dont worry, BC will get a starter. FA isnt impressive and from what I hear, trades are being explored while waiting for the pitching market to set itself.

     
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    For what it's worth, Red Sox fans should worry as much about the Red Sox hitting as the fans do about the Sox pitching.

    Fenway Park exaggerates the Red Sox pitching woes (and enhances the Sox hitting numbers).

    The Red Sox can build a strong rotation around Jon Lester, Clay Buchholz, John Lackey and Felix Doubront while the bullpen has great potential. I expect the Sox to acquire a pitcher or two, but I don't expect the team to break the bank for a top-tier starter.

     
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    For what it's worth, Red Sox fans should worry as much about the Red Sox hitting as the fans do about the Sox pitching.

    Fenway Park exaggerates the Red Sox pitching woes (and enhances the Sox hitting numbers).

    The Red Sox can build a strong rotation around Jon Lester, Clay Buchholz, John Lackey and Felix Doubront while the bullpen has great potential. I expect the Sox to acquire a pitcher or two, but I don't expect the team to break the bank for a top-tier starter.

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    Thats why we got guys like Gomes and Naps, so we can take advantage of their swings as pull hitters. Just like with Ross last year. SV is a SH with good defense and can play all OF positions more than adequately.

    Their not "sexy" signings, but These guys are all "ballplayers"/"grinders" and good clubhouse guys.

    A trade for pitching seems the more logical way to go with this years FA market for pitching.

    This team isnt done yet this winter. Lot more to go.

     
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    Re: Pop without pitching will equal disaster! Will we get some QUALITY SP?

    sure...sounds good.  And which pitchers on the Market would you have them overpay for?

     
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    Pay attention.  One of these days you'll see a thread announcing a blockbuster trade involving a starting pitcher coming to the Red Sox.  Mr. Mojo, be ready.  

     
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    Pay attention.  One of these days you'll see a thread announcing a blockbuster trade involving a starting pitcher coming to the Red Sox.  Mr. Mojo, be ready.  

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    Hope you're right, Sheriff.

     
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    In response to hill55's comment:
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    For what it's worth, Red Sox fans should worry as much about the Red Sox hitting as the fans do about the Sox pitching.

    Fenway Park exaggerates the Red Sox pitching woes (and enhances the Sox hitting numbers).

    The Red Sox can build a strong rotation around Jon Lester, Clay Buchholz, John Lackey and Felix Doubront while the bullpen has great potential. I expect the Sox to acquire a pitcher or two, but I don't expect the team to break the bank for a top-tier starter.

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    Thats why we got guys like Gomes and Naps, so we can take advantage of their swings as pull hitters. Just like with Ross last year. SV is a SH with good defense and can play all OF positions more than adequately.

    Their not "sexy" signings, but These guys are all "ballplayers"/"grinders" and good clubhouse guys.

    A trade for pitching seems the more logical way to go with this years FA market for pitching.

    This team isnt done yet this winter. Lot more to go.

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    And you don't think the opposing pitchers are smart enough to pitch these guys away?

     
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    For what it's worth, Red Sox fans should worry as much about the Red Sox hitting as the fans do about the Sox pitching.

    Fenway Park exaggerates the Red Sox pitching woes (and enhances the Sox hitting numbers).

    The Red Sox can build a strong rotation around Jon Lester, Clay Buchholz, John Lackey and Felix Doubront while the bullpen has great potential. I expect the Sox to acquire a pitcher or two, but I don't expect the team to break the bank for a top-tier starter.

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    Thats why we got guys like Gomes and Naps, so we can take advantage of their swings as pull hitters. Just like with Ross last year. SV is a SH with good defense and can play all OF positions more than adequately.

    Their not "sexy" signings, but These guys are all "ballplayers"/"grinders" and good clubhouse guys.

    A trade for pitching seems the more logical way to go with this years FA market for pitching.

    This team isnt done yet this winter. Lot more to go.

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    And you don't think the opposing pitchers are smart enough to pitch these guys away?

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    Then they get a walk.

    Check Napoli's walk rate and get back to me...

     
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    Pay attention.  One of these days you'll see a thread announcing a blockbuster trade involving a starting pitcher coming to the Red Sox.  Mr. Mojo, be ready.  

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    Not while BC is in charge. He's looking at Dempster and Pavano. If it's a blockbuster, it will likely favor the other team.

     
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    In response to Alibiike's comment:
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    For what it's worth, Red Sox fans should worry as much about the Red Sox hitting as the fans do about the Sox pitching.

    Fenway Park exaggerates the Red Sox pitching woes (and enhances the Sox hitting numbers).

    The Red Sox can build a strong rotation around Jon Lester, Clay Buchholz, John Lackey and Felix Doubront while the bullpen has great potential. I expect the Sox to acquire a pitcher or two, but I don't expect the team to break the bank for a top-tier starter.

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    Thats why we got guys like Gomes and Naps, so we can take advantage of their swings as pull hitters. Just like with Ross last year. SV is a SH with good defense and can play all OF positions more than adequately.

    Their not "sexy" signings, but These guys are all "ballplayers"/"grinders" and good clubhouse guys.

    A trade for pitching seems the more logical way to go with this years FA market for pitching.

    This team isnt done yet this winter. Lot more to go.

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    And you don't think the opposing pitchers are smart enough to pitch these guys away?

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    Are you serious?

    If it was that easy there wouldn't be any 30+ homerun hitters in the majors or anywhere else for that matter.

    Anyone with any baseball knowledge will tell you for a pitcher to be successful he has to have the ability to pitch inside.

    You're killing me.

     
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    In response to hill55's comment:
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    For what it's worth, Red Sox fans should worry as much about the Red Sox hitting as the fans do about the Sox pitching.

    Fenway Park exaggerates the Red Sox pitching woes (and enhances the Sox hitting numbers).

    The Red Sox can build a strong rotation around Jon Lester, Clay Buchholz, John Lackey and Felix Doubront while the bullpen has great potential. I expect the Sox to acquire a pitcher or two, but I don't expect the team to break the bank for a top-tier starter.

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    Thats why we got guys like Gomes and Naps, so we can take advantage of their swings as pull hitters. Just like with Ross last year. SV is a SH with good defense and can play all OF positions more than adequately.

    Their not "sexy" signings, but These guys are all "ballplayers"/"grinders" and good clubhouse guys.

    A trade for pitching seems the more logical way to go with this years FA market for pitching.

    This team isnt done yet this winter. Lot more to go.

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    And you don't think the opposing pitchers are smart enough to pitch these guys away?

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    Then they get a walk.

    Check Napoli's walk rate and get back to me...

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    Evidently Ali did check...

    Hence the crickets.

     
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    For what it's worth, Red Sox fans should worry as much about the Red Sox hitting as the fans do about the Sox pitching.

    Fenway Park exaggerates the Red Sox pitching woes (and enhances the Sox hitting numbers).

    The Red Sox can build a strong rotation around Jon Lester, Clay Buchholz, John Lackey and Felix Doubront while the bullpen has great potential. I expect the Sox to acquire a pitcher or two, but I don't expect the team to break the bank for a top-tier starter.

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    Thats why we got guys like Gomes and Naps, so we can take advantage of their swings as pull hitters. Just like with Ross last year. SV is a SH with good defense and can play all OF positions more than adequately.

    Their not "sexy" signings, but These guys are all "ballplayers"/"grinders" and good clubhouse guys.

    A trade for pitching seems the more logical way to go with this years FA market for pitching.

    This team isnt done yet this winter. Lot more to go.

    [/QUOTE]

    And you don't think the opposing pitchers are smart enough to pitch these guys away?

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    Then they get a walk.

    Check Napoli's walk rate and get back to me...

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    Evidently Ali did check...

    Hence the crickets.

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    This is why hes running away with the "Complainer of the year" award...

     
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    For what it's worth, Red Sox fans should worry as much about the Red Sox hitting as the fans do about the Sox pitching.

    Fenway Park exaggerates the Red Sox pitching woes (and enhances the Sox hitting numbers).

    The Red Sox can build a strong rotation around Jon Lester, Clay Buchholz, John Lackey and Felix Doubront while the bullpen has great potential. I expect the Sox to acquire a pitcher or two, but I don't expect the team to break the bank for a top-tier starter.

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    Thats why we got guys like Gomes and Naps, so we can take advantage of their swings as pull hitters. Just like with Ross last year. SV is a SH with good defense and can play all OF positions more than adequately.

    Their not "sexy" signings, but These guys are all "ballplayers"/"grinders" and good clubhouse guys.

    A trade for pitching seems the more logical way to go with this years FA market for pitching.

    This team isnt done yet this winter. Lot more to go.

    [/QUOTE]

    And you don't think the opposing pitchers are smart enough to pitch these guys away?

    [/QUOTE]

    Then they get a walk.

    Check Napoli's walk rate and get back to me...

    [/QUOTE]


    Evidently Ali did check...

    Hence the crickets.

    [/QUOTE]


    This is why hes running away with the "Complainer of the year" award...

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    hes a lock.

     
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