Predict the AL East standings for 2013 :)

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    I prefer ERC# & WHIP myself, in that order. WHIPs a little deceiving because you can set the record of WHIP with a 0.5 and still lose if they're all HRs, hence I prefer ERC# & maybe ERC+. To each his own.

     



    OPS against is a good tool as well.

     

    Career BA/OBP/SLG/OPS against:

    Beckett:    .244/.305/.396/.701

    Dempster: .258/.340/.410/.750

     

    Josh also has a pretty impressive playoff portfolio (especially up to 2007).

     

    His 4.39 ERA at Fenway really raised his overall career ERA of 3.91.

     

     



    Josh also has a pretty impressive playoff portfolio (especially up to 2007).

     
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    I prefer ERC# & WHIP myself, in that order. WHIPs a little deceiving because you can set the record of WHIP with a 0.5 and still lose if they're all HRs, hence I prefer ERC# & maybe ERC+. To each his own.

     



    OPS against is a good tool as well.

     

    Career BA/OBP/SLG/OPS against:

    Beckett:    .244/.305/.396/.701

    Dempster: .258/.340/.410/.750

     

    Josh also has a pretty impressive playoff portfolio (especially up to 2007).

     

    His 4.39 ERA at Fenway really raised his overall career ERA of 3.91.



    Yes

     
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    I prefer ERC# & WHIP myself, in that order. WHIPs a little deceiving because you can set the record of WHIP with a 0.5 and still lose if they're all HRs, hence I prefer ERC# & maybe ERC+. To each his own.

     



    OPS against is a good tool as well.

     

    Career BA/OBP/SLG/OPS against:

    Beckett:    .244/.305/.396/.701

    Dempster: .258/.340/.410/.750

     

    Josh also has a pretty impressive playoff portfolio (especially up to 2007).

     

    His 4.39 ERA at Fenway really raised his overall career ERA of 3.91.

     

     



    Josh also has a pretty impressive playoff portfolio (especially up to 2007).

     




     

     

     

     

    He also loved kicking the heck out of the Yankees.




    Lifetime 14-8, 5.53 ERA v the Yankees.

     
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    I prefer ERC# & WHIP myself, in that order. WHIPs a little deceiving because you can set the record of WHIP with a 0.5 and still lose if they're all HRs, hence I prefer ERC# & maybe ERC+. To each his own.

     



    OPS against is a good tool as well.

     

    Career BA/OBP/SLG/OPS against:

    Beckett:    .244/.305/.396/.701

    Dempster: .258/.340/.410/.750

     

    Josh also has a pretty impressive playoff portfolio (especially up to 2007).

     

    His 4.39 ERA at Fenway really raised his overall career ERA of 3.91.

     

     



    Josh also has a pretty impressive playoff portfolio (especially up to 2007).

     




     

     

     

     

    He also loved kicking the heck out of the Yankees.

     




     

    Lifetime 14-8, 5.53 ERA v the Yankees.



    Does that include the 16.1 IP, 8 Hits, 2 ER  (1.10 ERA) and 19 Ks in the

    2003 World Series?

     

     

     
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    In response to moonslav59's comment:

     

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    I prefer ERC# & WHIP myself, in that order. WHIPs a little deceiving because you can set the record of WHIP with a 0.5 and still lose if they're all HRs, hence I prefer ERC# & maybe ERC+. To each his own.

     



    OPS against is a good tool as well.

     

    Career BA/OBP/SLG/OPS against:

    Beckett:    .244/.305/.396/.701

    Dempster: .258/.340/.410/.750

     

    Josh also has a pretty impressive playoff portfolio (especially up to 2007).

     

    His 4.39 ERA at Fenway really raised his overall career ERA of 3.91.

     

     



    Josh also has a pretty impressive playoff portfolio (especially up to 2007).

     




     

     

     

     

    He also loved kicking the heck out of the Yankees.

     




     

    Lifetime 14-8, 5.53 ERA v the Yankees.




    Stats are a b!tch sometimes

     
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    I prefer ERC# & WHIP myself, in that order. WHIPs a little deceiving because you can set the record of WHIP with a 0.5 and still lose if they're all HRs, hence I prefer ERC# & maybe ERC+. To each his own.

     



    OPS against is a good tool as well.

     

    Career BA/OBP/SLG/OPS against:

    Beckett:    .244/.305/.396/.701

    Dempster: .258/.340/.410/.750

     

    Josh also has a pretty impressive playoff portfolio (especially up to 2007).

     

    His 4.39 ERA at Fenway really raised his overall career ERA of 3.91.

     

     



    Josh also has a pretty impressive playoff portfolio (especially up to 2007).

     




     

     

     

     

    He also loved kicking the heck out of the Yankees.

     




     

    Lifetime 14-8, 5.53 ERA v the Yankees.

     



    Does that include the 16.1 IP, 8 Hits, 2 ER  (1.10 ERA) and 19 Ks in the

     

    2003 World Series?

     

     




    Yes career, includes Beckett's pre-popeye chicken stats.

    Life time record of 4-2 era of 5.66 in Yankee Stadium/s

    http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=beckejo02&year=Career&t=p

     
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    It's amazing how this thread has returned to baseball in pike's absence...

     
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    Hey everyone   :)

    Predict the AL East standings for 2013.

    I think for the first time since 2000, no team in the AL East will win 90 games since all five teams will be beating each other up.

    I still think that two teams from the AL East will make the playoffs.  So I pick Toronto to win the division and Boston to earn a wild card berth (I think Detroit will win the AL Central, Oakland will win the AL West, and the Angels will earn a wild card berth).  

    Toronto 89-73

    Boston  87-75

    Yankees 86-76

    Tampa Bay 84-78

    Baltimore 81-81

     

     




     

    "Hope is the thing with feathers. That perches in the soul..."

    Wildly optimistic, Ice-cream. I see the Sox finishing 3rd at best. Ben did not solve the problems in the starting rotation.

     
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    Yes career, includes Beckett's pre-popeye chicken stats.

    Life time record of 4-2 era of 5.66 in Yankee Stadium/s

    http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=beckejo02&year=Career&t=p

    TWM, those numbers for Beckett are regular season only.  If you click on the ballpark it gives you the breakdown by year.

    If you add Game 6 of the 2003 WS Beckett gave up 22 ER in 44 IP at YS for an ERA of 4.50. 

     
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    TWM, those numbers for Beckett are regular season only.  If you click on the ballpark it gives you the breakdown by year.

    If you add Game 6 of the 2003 WS Beckett gave up 22 ER in 44 IP at YS for an ERA of 4.50. 




    Regardless, beckett was not quite the Yankee killer that the nation likes to believe he was.

    He gained that reputation for what he did in that WS, after that the Yanks hit him pretty good.

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    The Yankees pounded him silly several times.  OTOH in 2011 he was 4-0 against them with a 1.85 ERA.  Like I say he was an amazingly erratic SOB.  When he was on he was one of the best.  When he was off he was brutal.

     
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    Yes career, includes Beckett's pre-popeye chicken stats.

    Life time record of 4-2 era of 5.66 in Yankee Stadium/s

    http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=beckejo02&year=Career&t=p

     

     

    TWM, those numbers for Beckett are regular season only.  If you click on the ballpark it gives you the breakdown by year.

    If you add Game 6 of the 2003 WS Beckett gave up 22 ER in 44 IP at YS for an ERA of 4.50. 




    Yeah Bob I guess I stand corrected, although baseball reference.com has those listed as career splits, not as just regular season.

     

     
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    TWM, those numbers for Beckett are regular season only.  If you click on the ballpark it gives you the breakdown by year.

    If you add Game 6 of the 2003 WS Beckett gave up 22 ER in 44 IP at YS for an ERA of 4.50. 

     




     

    Regardless, beckett was not quite the Yankee killer that the nation likes to believe he was.

    He gained that reputation for what he did in that WS, after that the Yanks hit him pretty good.



    The Yankees pounded him silly several times.  OTOH in 2011 he was 4-0 against them with a 1.85 ERA.  Like I say he was an amazingly erratic SOB.  When he was on he was one of the best.  When he was off he was brutal.

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    In recent times against the Yankees you never knew who you would see, the unhittable Beckett from the 2003 Marlins or the one who had a propensity to give up the long ball at the wrong time.

    I could understand why the Sox fans were so frustrated.

     
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    Re: Predict the AL East standings for 2013 :)

    The A.L. East will beinteresting for sure. With a clean bill of health this team will be contending for a wild card spot at the least.  That doesn't come without saying there is a good chance we are competing for a top ten pick again. 

    Toronto has obviously become the team (on paper) but hasn't proven it on the field yet.  Tampa still has a lt f young talent and Baltimore has all of a sudden become relevant.

    I actually think Baltimore is an intriguing case, I believe it's possible Baltimore may actually be a better team in 2013 but their record could be close to identical or worse.  

    And of course you can't factor out the Yankees.  

     
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    Re: Predict the AL East standings for 2013 :)

    This thread has had a few twists & turns

     
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    This thread has had a few twists & turns

     



    Notice how the forum is running a lot smoother without pike.

     

    Anyone else notice that since pike has been banned that kimsaysthis hasn't been around?

    Coincidence?




    I really don't think they're the same person. Kim is a lot more confrontational than pike. pike seems to come from the Bobby Valentine school of confrontation. That being said, she does seem to have a pretty healthy supply of pike pills.

     
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    Beckett ended up with an unspectacular postseason ERA with the Red Sox of 3.88. Decent, but not great. He did not do well against the Yankees, as others have pointed out, and he was too inconsistent to be considered the ace many people thought we were getting from the Marlins...IMO. In addition, he was stubborn and resistant to constructive criticism from his coaches and carried himself with a visible disdain for the fans. I am not sorry to see him gone.

     
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    Re: Predict the AL East standings for 2013 :)

    In response to carnie's comment:

    In response to HelloItsMeAgain1's comment:

     

    In response to nhsteven's comment:

     

    This thread has had a few twists & turns

     



    Notice how the forum is running a lot smoother without pike.

     

    Anyone else notice that since pike has been banned that kimsaysthis hasn't been around?

    Coincidence?

     




    I really don't think they're the same person. Kim is a lot more confrontational than pike. pike seems to come from the Bobby Valentine school of confrontation. That being said, she does seem to have a pretty healthy supply of pike pills.

     




    Pike will be back under a different name. Though he could be annoying sometimes, I don't think he deserved to be banned.

     
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    In response to pumpsie-green's comment:

    In response to carnie's comment:

     

    In response to HelloItsMeAgain1's comment:

     

    In response to nhsteven's comment:

     

    This thread has had a few twists & turns

     



    Notice how the forum is running a lot smoother without pike.

     

    Anyone else notice that since pike has been banned that kimsaysthis hasn't been around?

    Coincidence?

     




    I really don't think they're the same person. Kim is a lot more confrontational than pike. pike seems to come from the Bobby Valentine school of confrontation. That being said, she does seem to have a pretty healthy supply of pike pills.

     

     




     

    Pike will be back under a different name. Though he could be annoying sometimes, I don't think he deserved to be banned.



    There seems to be a lot more baseball discussion going on with out him. And I'm done talking about pike. It seems a little pikish to me. :-)

     
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    Re: Predict the AL East standings for 2013 :)

    In response to HelloItsMeAgain1's comment:

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    I really don't think they're the same person. Kim is a lot more confrontational than pike. pike seems to come from the Bobby Valentine school of confrontation. That being said, she does seem to have a pretty healthy supply of pike pills.

     



    I'm not so sure. It seems like every time pike gets banned she disappears as well.

    I think it's just another of his personas.

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    I'm choosing to believe that kim is a different person...mainly for the sake of my own sanity.

     
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