Predicting Player Performances Based Upon Spring Training

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    Predicting Player Performances Based Upon Spring Training

    I wonder what some posters would have posted about this Red Sox pitcher who ended the 2004 exhibition season with a 15.59 ERA.  In nine spring training innings, he surrendered 17 hits and 15 runs while striking out just two batters.  Who was it?

     
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    Re: Predicting Player Performances Based Upon Spring Training

    To preempt Pike's whining.....

    Yes!  Lackey will likely suck :(

    Other than Lackey, it would be highly rediculous to try to predict how they will do based SOLELY on ST!

    As the biggest Red Sox fan in HISTORY, I will still pull for Lackey every 5 games!  What choice do we have?

     
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    Re: Predicting Player Performances Based Upon Spring Training

    In response to redsoxdirtdog's comment:

    To preempt Pike's whining.....

    Yes!  Lackey will likely suck :(

    Other than Lackey, it would be highly rediculous to try to predict how they will do based SOLELY on ST!

    As the biggest Red Sox fan in HISTORY, I will still pull for Lackey every 5 games!  What choice do we have?



    What about the question, dirtdog?  Any guesses?

     
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    Re: Predicting Player Performances Based Upon Spring Training

    i tried looking it up but got couldn't find it on the google machine...

    clearly it is a pitcher who went on to have a good year otherwise you probably wouldn't have posed the question....
     schilling maybe??

     
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    In response to mef429's comment:

    i tried looking it up but got couldn't find it on the google machine...

    clearly it is a pitcher who went on to have a good year otherwise you probably wouldn't have posed the question....
     schilling maybe??



    Incorrect.  Next contestant, please.

     
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    Re: Predicting Player Performances Based Upon Spring Training

    In response to softlaw2's comment:

    Specious example. Spring training is so compressed that pitcher metrics offer little season projection, but health, velocity and control and poise can be gauged.



    Sorry, Softlaw.  Time is up.  You wasted your alloted time bloviating again.  

     
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    Re: Predicting Player Performances Based Upon Spring Training

    sherriff you ba$tard.

    no one with a line like that....

    http://espn.go.com/mlb/springStats/_/team/bos/year/2004/type/pitch

    it was Foulke! :D

     
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    Re: Predicting Player Performances Based Upon Spring Training

    PLAYER             ERA         G       IP        H   R  ER
    ------        -  -  -  ---   - -- -- ---    --   -   -  --
    
    R Garcia          0.00          5      5.0       3   0   0
    D McCarty       0.00          1      0.2       2   0   0
    E Glaser          0.00          1      1.0       1   0   0
    J Howell          0.00          1      1.0       0   0   0
    J Nelson          0.00          1      2.0       2   0   0
    E Johnson       0.00          1      1.0       0   0   0
    A Alvarez        0.00          2      3.0       2   0   0
    J Gamble        0.00          2      2.0       2   0   0
    L Dinardo        0.00         4      5.2       3   0   0
    B Hebson        0.00          3      3.1       1   0   0
    B Jones           1.74         9     10.1      5   2   2
    C Schilling       2.10         5     25.2     16   6   6
    D Lowe           2.17         7     29.0      20   9   7
    T Hamulack     2.38       10     11.1      4   3   3
    A Martinez       2.46        8       7.1      6   3   2
    J Brown          3.00         4      6.0       8   2   2
    T Wakefield     3.22        6      22.1     20   9   8
    A Embree        3.86        7      7.0       9   3   3
    B Arroyo         4.09        6      22.0     21  10  10
    B Kim             4.16        2       4.1      3   2   2
    P Seibel          4.50        4       8.0      8   4   4
    M Malaska      4.50        6       6.0       5   3   3
    F Brooks         5.14        7      7.0       8   4   4
    S Williamson   5.69        7      6.1       8   4   4
    C Zink            6.00        3      3.0       2   2   2
    R Mendoza      6.35        4      5.2       5   4   4
    P Martinez      6.75        5      16.0     20  14  12
    N Bierbrodt     9.00        3      3.0       4   3   3
    M Timlin        9.00      10     12.0    16  12  12
    E Almonte      10.13       5      5.1      10   6   6
    C Morla          11.59       2      2.1      2   3   3
    F Castillo       13.53        1      1.1      4   2   2
    K Foulke        15.00       8       9.0     17  15  15
    J Shiell          16.19       6       6.2     12  12  12
    E Yarnall        36.00       1      1.0       4   4   4
     
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    Re: Predicting Player Performances Based Upon Spring Training

    In response to mef429's comment:

    sherriff you ba$tard.

    no one with a line like that....

    http://espn.go.com/mlb/springStats/_/team/bos/year/2004/type/pitch

    Mike Timlin let up 12 ER in 12 innings in 10 games... thats as close as i could find



    You didn't look further down the list, mef.  My source was a bit off on ERA, but close enough.  Could have done the math myself and seen that it was wrong.  Otherwise, all the other numbers are correct.  

     
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    sherriff you ba$tard.

    no one with a line like that....

    http://espn.go.com/mlb/springStats/_/team/bos/year/2004/type/pitch

    Mike Timlin let up 12 ER in 12 innings in 10 games... thats as close as i could find

     



    You didn't look further down the list, mef.  My source was a bit off on ERA, but close enough.  Could have done the math myself and seen that it was wrong.  Otherwise, all the other numbers are correct.  

     

     




    *facepalm* don't know how i didn't see that one LOL!

    i cleaned up the list a little bit when i copied it over, it was really cluttered with a bunch of meaningless stats (who pitches a complete game in ST??) and hard to navigate.

    I still don't know how i missed it even after i deleted the unnecessary parts.

     

    shhhhhhhhhhhhhh... it never happened :)

     
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    sherriff you ba$tard.

    no one with a line like that....

    http://espn.go.com/mlb/springStats/_/team/bos/year/2004/type/pitch

    Mike Timlin let up 12 ER in 12 innings in 10 games... thats as close as i could find

     



    You didn't look further down the list, mef.  My source was a bit off on ERA, but close enough.  Could have done the math myself and seen that it was wrong.  Otherwise, all the other numbers are correct.  

     

     




    *facepalm* don't know how i didn't see that one LOL!

     



    You were right about one thing, though.  This player did have a helluva season.  Timlin, who was almost as bad in ST, didn't have such a bad regular season either.

     
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    Re: Predicting Player Performances Based Upon Spring Training

    In response to softlaw2's comment:

    Specious example. Spring training is so compressed that pitcher metrics offer little season projection, but health, velocity and control and poise can be gauged.



    yes

    ST games brings us back to the old days

    B4 superstats

    when watching the games actually mattered ;-)

     
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    Re: Predicting Player Performances Based Upon Spring Training

    Who has posted a .310/.366/.585/.951 line this spring?

    The Seattle Mariners.

    As a team.

    In 11 games.

    As we all know, Spring Training statistics have little predictive value.

     
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    Re: Predicting Player Performances Based Upon Spring Training

    In response to hill55's comment:

    Who has posted a .310/.366/.585/.951 line this spring?

    The Seattle Mariners.

    As a team.

    In 11 games.

    As we all know, Spring Training statistics have little predictive value.




    how big/small if their ST park compared to SafeCo??

     
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    Re: Predicting Player Performances Based Upon Spring Training

    oooops!   Now Lackey's tearing it up against Puerto Rico, our 51st state......

    Now he really is in contention for the Cy Young!  :)

    Seriously though....  I was very please by what I read.  31 - 46 strikes :)  Hitting his spots.  Throwing all 4 pitches.  Throwing in the 90's+ :)   I hope he takes all the banging he's endured, & shoves it up our ......  I still like his new attitude.  It would be a great story of redemption to have him come on strong & "LEAD" this SR back in the right direction???  What a story that would be!  Fingers crossed!!!

    Come on Lack! 

     
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    Re: Predicting Player Performances Based Upon Spring Training

    yeh yeh yeh!  I heard it.  Make up your mind on Lackey already.  :)

    Kind of the point of the thread.

    The answer?  It's really tough to make predictions about a pitcher, as they're working on their stuff....

     
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