Preimium Contract not Premium Player

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    Re: Preimium Contract not Premium Player

    One year contracts are not "premium contracts"...

     
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    sorry, but 10 million dollars for one year of a guy with a .600's OPS is a premium contract.



    No its not softy.. One year deals arnt team killers.

     
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    Re: Preimium Contract not Premium Player

    C. In his best season, he was never a premium hitter

     

    Compared to SSs, he was in 2008 and maybe 2010 as well:

    2008: .291  21  67  (55 2B+3B) 76 XBHs! .836 OPS

     MLB SS team avg (800 PAs) : .269  12  72 (43 2B+3B) .713 OPS

    That's a plus .123 OPS differential in 2008.

     

     

    2010: .278  15  61  (45 2B+ 3B) 60 XBHs.

     
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    premium contracts for 20+M for 5+ years.... a 1 year deal woth 9.5M is not premium....

     
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    Re: Preimium Contract not Premium Player

    In response to softlaw2's comment:

    sorry, but 10 million dollars for one year of a guy with a .600's OPS is a premium contract.




    Is that his "median average" OPS or some other invented number?

     
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    sorry, but 10 million dollars for one year of a guy with a .600's OPS is a premium contract.

     




     

    Is that his "median average" OPS or some other invented number?



    100% of softlaws statistics are made up on the spot.

     
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    The base, not the term, determines premium contract cost. If the term is long and at a premium and beyond a player's early thirties, it becomes an totally incompetent contract offer.



    regardless. a base of 9.5 M does not make it a premium contract..

     
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    In response to moonslav59's comment:

     

    In response to softlaw2's comment:

     

    sorry, but 10 million dollars for one year of a guy with a .600's OPS is a premium contract.

     




     

    Is that his "median average" OPS or some other invented number?

     



    100% of softlaws statistics are made up on the spot.

     

     



    Drew's last 2 years' OPS have been: .657 and .713 (career, it is .762), so rounded off to the nearest even numbered 100, I guess softy is right.... it's .600.

     

    ;)

     
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    That's his median average after he became damaged goods from injury and old age.

    I've noted that you think he doesn't have a premium contract and he's a good value and fit who should jump to the front of the line.



    Injuries maybe but now 30 years old is old to you softy??? Your getting more and more rediculous with each post.

     
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    That's his median average after he became damaged goods from injury and old age.

    I've noted that you think he doesn't have a premium contract and he's a good value and fit who should jump to the front of the line.

     



    Injuries maybe but now 30 years old is old to you softy??? Your getting more and more rediculous with each post.

     



    But the age of VMart who softy wanted to mostly catch until Papi retired, was not a factor.

     
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    A player in his thirties, who is damaged goods, is not a guy to offer 10 million dollars.



    Agreed, but why the need to fabricate stats?

     
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    Re: Preimium Contract not Premium Player

    In an offseason where Youkilis gets $12mill anf Ty Wiggington gets $5mill, $9.5 for Drew as a stopgap insurance policy for a team without an experienced MLB SS is pretty fair and tantamount to a flier

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    So nice to see Red Sox fans overwhelmingly supporting manager John's support fo his, in his own words, "premium guy".



    "premium guy" has nothing to do with his contract. My best friend is a premium guy and he makes minimum wage!

    it's a description of his character not his salary. as usual, you are clueless.

     
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    In response to softlaw2's comment:

    A player in his thirties, who is damaged goods, is not a guy to offer 10 million dollars.



    Dude get over it, its for one year... And if drew happens to play good we can ship him off to a SS needy team for some nice prospects and replace him with iglesias... If Drew sucks Iglesias is there to replace him and we can just let drew go at the end of the year... Again Softy one year deals arnt team killers

     
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    Re: Preimium Contract not Premium Player

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    No, he is not going to be an all star. Neither is Iggy. I want to see what Drew can do for us

    You arleady saw what Drew can do, the last few years and before he got hit in the head in spring training.

    You can also see what character Drew has in the team concept, as well as what he can do in a bench role. If he does well and doesn't sulk, he could actually earn the starting job. Do I think he's good enough to do that, no I don't.

    Drew's 10 million dollar contract doesn't mean he should jump in the front of the line when he comes off the DL. He has a palyer in front him, now, who played better in the spring and in the first two wins to open the season. Drew needs to get in the back of the line. Carp needs to be DFA.



    Has Drew played for the Red Sox before? I can't believe I missed it! So no, I have not seen what Drew can do for this team. I do know that he has a career OPS of .762, which is exactly .265 better than Iglesias. If he can stay healthy he can be productive. If he is not, then sure, bring up the hitless wonder and take a chance that miraculously he has learned how to hit the baseball. No, I do not put much into what he has done in spring training and in two games this year. I want to see at least 250 PAs with a respectable OPS of at least .700. If he cannot hit the baseball he does not belong in the major leagues.

     
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    Re: Preimium Contract not Premium Player

    In response to notin's comment:

    In an offseason where Youkilis gets $12mill anf Ty Wiggington gets $5mill, $9.5 for Drew as a stopgap insurance policy for a team without an experienced MLB SS is pretty fair and tantamount to a flier

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    What about Berkman at $11M?

     
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    Re: Preimium Contract not Premium Player

    In response to moonslav59's comment:

    In response to notin's comment:

     

    In an offseason where Youkilis gets $12mill anf Ty Wiggington gets $5mill, $9.5 for Drew as a stopgap insurance policy for a team without an experienced MLB SS is pretty fair and tantamount to a flier

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    What about Berkman at $11M?

     



    BJ upton at 15M

     
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    Re: Preimium Contract not Premium Player

    In response to notin's comment:

    In an offseason where Youkilis gets $12mill anf Ty Wiggington gets $5mill, $9.5 for Drew as a stopgap insurance policy for a team without an experienced MLB SS is pretty fair and tantamount to a flier

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    I would not have used the word "premium" as Farrell did. I would have used "adequate". Drew is not a premium player, nor is he being paid like one.

     
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