Prospects and Young Players

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    Prospects and Young Players

    We have a significant amount of young players and prospects.


    Here's a list by position (26 years old and younger in rough order of current skill level & potential):


    SP: Kelly, de la Rosa, Owens, Ranaudo, Webster, Rodriguez, Escobar, Barnes, Johnson, L Diaz, Kopech, T Ball


    RP: Hembree, Workman, Britton, N Ramirez, Kurcz


    C: Swihart, Vazquez, Lavarnway


    1B: Shaw, S Travis, Longhi


    2B: Betts, Holt, Coyle, Rijo


    3B: Devers, Chavis, Cecchini, Middy


    SS: Bogaerts, Marrero


    OF: JBJ, Margot, H Ramos, Hassan, Brentz


     


    Here's a list by age:


    26 Kelly, Holt, Hassan & Lavarnway


    25 de la Rosa, Hembree, Workman, Middlebrooks, Britton, Brentz


    24 Bradely, Webster, Ranaudo


    23 Vazquez 


    22 Ceccini & Escobar


    21 Bogaerts & Betts 


     


    Top Prospects (Rank) not on the 40 Man Roster:


    24 Barnes (12), T Shaw (23), N Ramirez (28), K Couch (36), M Celestino (41), A Kurcz (45)


    23 Marrero (7), B Johnson (9), J Haley (37), J Aro (39), M Almanzar (46), R Gragnani (48), P Light (56)


    22 Swihart (2), Owens (3), Coyle (13),L Diaz (21), H Ramos (29), Mercedes (31), J Gunkel (38), C Asuaje (40), K de la Cruz (47)


    21 E Rodriguez (10), G Taveras (49), C Kukuk (57)


    20 T Ball (17), S Travis (20), Stankiewicz (32), J Cosart (34), M Dubon (50), D Mars (58)


    19 M Margot (11), Callahan (33)


    18 M Chavis (15), M Kopech (16), Rijo (19), Longhi (22), J Guerra (30), J Almonte (51), J Ockimey (59)


    17 Devers (4), J Diaz (52), L Basabe (60) 


     


    I think most teams would love to swap farm systems with ours or all 26 and younger players. What do you think?


     


    Sox4ever

     
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    Re: Prospects and Young Players

    Just for kicks, I'll throw out Seattle players who have seen action at the MLB level this year:


    26 -- Kyle Seager, Dustin Ackley, Logan Morrison


    25 -- Roenis Elias, James Paxton, Yoervis Medina, James Jones, Stefen Romero


    24 -- Brad Miller, Jesus Montero, Erasmo Ramirez


    23 --Mike Zunino, Chris Taylor, Brandon Maurer


    22 -- Dominic Leone


    21 -- Taijuan Walker


    Just missing the cut:


    27 -- Austin Jackson, Michael Saunders, Danny Farquhar


    28 -- Felix Hernandez, Charlie Furbush


    * ages from Seattle roster at Baseball Reference

     
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    In response to hill55's comment:

    Just for kicks, I'll throw out Seattle players who have seen action at the MLB level this year:

    26 -- Kyle Seager, Dustin Ackley, Logan Morrison

    25 -- Roenis Elias, James Paxton, Yoervis Medina

    24 -- Brad Miller, Jesus Montero, Erasmo Ramirez

    23 --Mike Zunino, Chris Taylor, Brandon Maurer

    22 -- Dominic Leone

    21 -- Taijuan Walker

    Just missing the cut:

    27 -- Austin Jackson, Michael Saunders, Danny Farquhar

    28 -- Felix Hernandez, Charlie Furbush

    * ages from Seattle roster at Baseball Reference




    Pretty impressive, and Seattle's list of top prospects who have not played in MLB yet is right up there as well.

    Here are the Sox players close to 26 but over:

    29 Craig, Buchholz, Layne, Herrera & Wright,  28 Cespedes(FA after 2015), Tazawa & C Brown, 27 Wilson & Butler

    *also from baseball reference.com

     
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    Moon, you have Chavis in with the SP, just FYI.

     

    Nice list. Can anyone remember a time when we had this kind of young pitching depth? The likes of RDLR, Webster, and Ranaudo are growing before our eyes at the major league level, Escobar and Rodriguez have looked good since coming on board, and even Barnes seems to have figured something out lately in Pawtucket.

     

    Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

     
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    Speaking of prospects...here's a good read if you have a BA subscription (which everyone should)

    http://www.baseballamerica.com/minors/devers-turning-heads-loaded-red-sox-system/" rel="nofollow">http://www.baseballamerica.com/minors/devers-turning-heads-loaded-red-sox-system/

    And in other news, Manuel Margot got the promotion to high A Salem today. 

     
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    In response to Flapjack07's comment:

    Moon, you have Chavis in with the SP, just FYI.

     

    Nice list. Can anyone remember a time when we had this kind of young pitching depth? The likes of RDLR, Webster, and Ranaudo are growing before our eyes at the major league level, Escobar and Rodriguez have looked good since coming on board, and even Barnes seems to have figured something out lately in Pawtucket.

     

    Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.




    Thanks, I corrected Chavis.

    I really like the 4 young pitchers we picked up: Kelly, Hembree, Escobar and Rodriguez, and we already had a pretty deep pitching future beforehand!

     
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    Great list of very ight quality prospects; Betts at 2nd, I very much doubt it. He hasn't played 2nd in some time, and no way is Pedroia not in there unless both legs are busted. Betts is hitting about .340, last time I looked, and to not bring him up after the Pawtucket season is over would border on insanity.

     
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    In response to bosoxmal's comment:

    Great list of very ight quality prospects; Betts at 2nd, I very much doubt it. He hasn't played 2nd in some time, and no way is Pedroia not in there unless both legs are busted. Betts is hitting about .340, last time I looked, and to not bring him up after the Pawtucket season is over would border on insanity.




    "very light quality"- be serious. We may not have any Trouts or Strausburgs, but we have many very good prospects and many mid level ones as well. Certainly quite a few above "very light".

    I placed Betts at 2B, because it is probably his best defensive position, but I realize he is blocked by Pedey. I agree, he should be with the ML club next season or traded.

    As for him not playing 2B in a "long time", you need to do your homework. In AAA this year, Betts has played 40 games at 2B and only 34 in the OF.

     

     
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    Tonight in the Minors, Owens, Rodriquez, Ball, and Cosart Pitching in the Minors. That's awesome. All with high ceilings.

     
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    Our farm teams have been doing very well this year- no surprise.

    Pawtucket 71-55 (2nd place)

    Portland 75-50 (1st place)

    Salem 24-25 (2nd place)

    Greenville 18-36 (7th place)

    Lowell 28-31 (3rd place)

    GCL Red Sox 28-18 (1st place)

    DSL Red Sox 44-18 (1st place)

     

    Sox4ever

     
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    Re: Prospects and Young Players

    In response to hill55's comment:

    Just for kicks, I'll throw out Seattle players who have seen action at the MLB level this year:

     

    26 -- Kyle Seager, Dustin Ackley, Logan Morrison

     

    25 -- Roenis Elias, James Paxton, Yoervis Medina, James Jones, Stefen Romero

     

    24 -- Brad Miller, Jesus Montero, Erasmo Ramirez

     

    23 --Mike Zunino, Chris Taylor, Brandon Maurer

     

    22 -- Dominic Leone

     

    21 -- Taijuan Walker

     

    Just missing the cut:

     

    27 -- Austin Jackson, Michael Saunders, Danny Farquhar

     

    28 -- Felix Hernandez, Charlie Furbush

     

    * ages from Seattle roster at Baseball Reference



    Where's Alex Liddi? 

    WE ARE ALL JUST POPPYSEEDS IN THE BAKERY OF LIFE

     

     
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    Potential 2015 pre-season Top 100 guys:


    Locks: Owens, Swihart, Betts (if he does not get enough ML time to become ineligible)
    Maybes: Marrero?...Ranaudo?...Cecchini?...Escobar/Rodriguez?...Devers...Margot...Rijo...Ball...Chavis.
    Am I forgetting anyone?


    We may not be as well-represented as this year, but we should have a ton of guys in the lower levels who will be in prime position to start shooting up the lists.


    Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

     
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    In response to Flapjack07's comment:

    Potential 2015 pre-season Top 100 guys:

     

    Locks: Owens, Swihart, Betts (if he does not get enough ML time to become ineligible)
    Maybes: Marrero?...Ranaudo?...Cecchini?...Escobar/Rodriguez?...Devers...Margot...Rijo...Ball...Chavis.
    Am I forgetting anyone?

     

    We may not be as well-represented as this year, but we should have a ton of guys in the lower levels who will be in prime position to start shooting up the lists.

     

    Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.



    Brian Johnson's stock rose quite a bit this season.

    My sleeper prospect has been Luis Diaz, but I doubt he makes anyone's list.

     
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    In response to pumpsie-green's comment:

    In response to hill55's comment:

    Just for kicks, I'll throw out Seattle players who have seen action at the MLB level this year:

    26 -- Kyle Seager, Dustin Ackley, Logan Morrison

    25 -- Roenis Elias, James Paxton, Yoervis Medina, James Jones, Stefen Romero

    24 -- Brad Miller, Jesus Montero, Erasmo Ramirez

    23 --Mike Zunino, Chris Taylor, Brandon Maurer

    22 -- Dominic Leone

    21 -- Taijuan Walker

    Just missing the cut:

    27 -- Austin Jackson, Michael Saunders, Danny Farquhar

    28 -- Felix Hernandez, Charlie Furbush

    * ages from Seattle roster at Baseball Reference


    Where's Alex Liddi? 

    WE ARE ALL JUST POPPYSEEDS IN THE BAKERY OF LIFE

    LOL

    Alex Liddi toils away with the Chattanooga Lookouts, the Double A affiliate of the Los Angeles Dodgers:

    http://www.milb.com/player/index.jsp?sid=milb&player_id=499926#/career/R/hitting/2014/ALL" rel="nofollow">http://www.milb.com/player/index.jsp?sid=milb&player_id=499926#/career/R/hitting/2014/ALL

     
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    Owens and Ball got hit pretty hard, Rodriguez pitched another good game. 6 innings 8 hits, but gave up only 1 run, with 7 K's. Cosarts game postponed.

     
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    In Brian Johnson's last 10 outings  he has allowed 1 or 0 runs in 9 of the games. He had one bad outing where he allowed 7 runs in 2 innings and he still carried an ERA of 1.99.

    In 18 games that he started--1.87 ERA/ .99 WHIP/ in 106 Inn./ 9-2 record.

    Owens @ Portland carried a 2.6 ERA/ 1.12 WHIP/ in 121 Inn./14-4 record

    When you review the LH'ders the Sox have Owens, Johnson and Rodriquez from the O's--I haven't seen T. Ball pitch; Johnson does not rely strictly on overpowering stuff to get batters out. I really like all three but I see Johnson as someone that could pitch in Boston today with his experience in a high quality baseball program.

     

     
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    In Brian Johnson's last 10 outings  he has allowed 1 or 0 runs in 9 of the games. He had one bad outing where he allowed 7 runs in 2 innings and he still carried an ERA of 1.99.

    In 18 games that he started--1.87 ERA/ .99 WHIP/ in 106 Inn./ 9-2 record.

    Owens @ Portland carried a 2.6 ERA/ 1.12 WHIP/ in 121 Inn./14-4 record

    When you review the LH'ders the Sox have Owens, Johnson and Rodriquez from the O's--I haven't seen T. Ball pitch; Johnson does not rely strictly on overpowering stuff to get batters out. I really like all three but I see Johnson as someone that could pitch in Boston today with his experience in a high quality baseball program.

     

    All three have been pretty impressive, as has Escobar in limited action.

    Couple this with the seasons de la Rosa, Ranaudo and Webster are giving us and the pen performances by Hembree, and our long term pitching outlook is even brighter than it was to start the season.

     

     
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    The guys in the low minors have really been outstanding, helping the overall farme after some difficulties down there last year.

     
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    In response to crazy-world-of-troybrown's comment:

    Owens and Ball got hit pretty hard, Rodriguez pitched another good game. 6 innings 8 hits, but gave up only 1 run, with 7 K's. Cosarts game postponed.



    I've been very pleased with Balls recent performances.  Reportedly he's improved his arm speed, increased velocity, and tightened up his curve.  This is his first pro season however, so some fatigue could be setting in, and I wouldnt be surprised if they start pulling him earlier or just shut him down.

     
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    Hopefully 3 of these kids become contributors to the starting 5 unlike Doubrant!

     
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    In response to RedsoxProspects' comment:

    The guys in the low minors have really been outstanding, helping the overall farme after some difficulties down there last year.




    True, and while Lowell and Greenville may be struggling this year, our Gulf Coast and Dominican Summer League teams are doing great.

    GCL: 28-20 (1st place)

      Devers .855 OPS________

      Cosart .419 OPS against

      Speier .437

      Nunez .517

      Jerez  .523

      Heras .524

      Rodriguez .528

      Kopech  .535

      Pimental .560

      Fernandez .599

      Jimenez  .610

      L Ramos  .641

      Trader    .683

      Williams .725

      Almonte  .726

    (No pitcher has an OPS against higher than .741)

    DSL: 47-18 (1st places)

      Devers .984 OPS

      Basabe .887

      Lucena .805______________

      Bautista .473 OPS against

      Torrealba .505

      J Diaz   .510

      A Martinez .541

      Caceres  .585

      Lacrus   .591

      Gonzalez .601

      Hernandez .641

      Mendoza  .676

      Ardiles   .749

      (Only 2 pitchers with 13+ IP have an OPS against above .750)

      

     
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    Devers and Margot alone make the lower minors solid ( Margot just made it to high A ). Our top 2 international signings were Dominican pitchers and our pitching in the DSL was already real solid without them. This guy is underrated
    ( Guerra ):

    http://www.soxprospects.com/players/guerra-javier.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.soxprospects.com/players/guerra-javier.htm

    This guy has potential ( Longhi ):

    http://www.milb.com/player/index.jsp?sid=t558&player_id=641802#/career/R/hitting/2014/ALL" rel="nofollow">http://www.milb.com/player/index.jsp?sid=t558&player_id=641802#/career/R/hitting/2014/ALL

    Cosart has been terrific so far: 

    http://www.soxprospects.com/players/cosart-jake.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.soxprospects.com/players/cosart-jake.htm

    What is not to like about Kopech if we give him time to develop:

     http://www.soxprospects.com/players/kopech-michael.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.soxprospects.com/players/kopech-michael.htm

    Chavis, Ball, Sam Travis, Danny Mars and others all have a shot. 

     
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    Maybe even Luis Alexander Basabe, Jhonathan Diaz, Josh Ockimey and Jose Almonte.

    Sox4ever

     
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    The key is to have evaluators continue to determine who can play in Fenway?

    They may be the best prospects going but if they are anything like WMB, JBJ, Xander, yes Xander, and Buch they may not be ready ever to play at Fenway under the intense scrutiny these kids are asked to put up with.

    Our teams may have to be very mature teams with some age with a mindset that has already matured.

     
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