In response to Drewski5's comment:

I like your optimism.  I wish I could share it.

In response to Drewski5's comment:

Disagree; Baltimore is a rising force.

 Not trying o bad mouth Dickey but he just had a career year at 37, he ain't exactly hitting his prime.  Yes I know he is a knuckleballer, but we also know hey are vercoup and down.  Mets are looking to sell high and the Sox would be suckers to bite. 

I do not want Boston to give up top prospects for a 38-year-old pitcher. 

Why not get McCarthy and Marcum?  I think I mentioned both of their names at least 100 times.  LOL

 

The Rays dont have any offense

...and how long have you (and others) been saying this?

It's pitching, man- pitching!

Not trying o bad mouth Dickey but he just had a career year at 37, he ain't exactly hitting his prime.  Yes I know he is a knuckleballer, but we also know hey are vercoup and down.  Mets are looking to sell high and the Sox would be suckers to bite. 

I'm not for trading top prospects for any 1 year pitcher.

However, Dickey had 2 fine seasons before 2012. The very good to great seasons in a row is no fluke.

I think Dickey is more than a one year pitcher as well, but he did have a career year this year by far.  But it's not as if he hasn't been good before 2012, because he has.  But I'm just not willing to bet a Xander Bogaerts or a Jackie Bradley Jr over him.  Now if the asking price were to drop I think Dickey would be a great addition to this staff.

Here's a hypothetical for everyone.  If RA Dickey was 10 years younger and had a plus fastball would you make that trade?

 

Why would Dickey have to be a one-year player?   Make an extension part of the deal - his bread and butter pitches top out at 80MPH.   Is a 38-year-old Dickey a greater injury risk than a 27-year-old fireballer?

He could be a great mentor for Steven Wright, as well.

I wouldn't trade Bradley and Bogaerts, but maybe Lavarnway and Alan Webster could get the job done.

We're going to need some things to fall into place for us to be contenders - Lester could bounce back to form, or Lackey.  Tazawa could manifest into a top of the rotation pitcher, or Morales, or Doubrount, or De La Rosa. If none of this pans out, a Dickey is not going to make the difference.  But it makes for one less thing that must go our way in 2013.

I am terrified of a knuckle baller after seeing Wakefield over the last two years. Dickey is 38 years old as well.

There is no need for this guy. He's 37 and I've had enough of knuckleballers on the Red Sox. Plus the Mets want top prospects. Barnes, De La Rosa and Webster will all be in Boston in 2014. 

 

DO NOT GET THIS GUY.

In response to AL34's comment:

Agreed 100%. Stay away. Why wouldn't the Mets hold on to him.

In response to moonslav59's comment:

I agree. He just won a Cy Young.

Lots of if's with Dickey but it would depend on the cost. I am not willing to trade Bradley and Bogaerts, but 20 wins is 20 wins. His ERA in the last 3 seasons is 2.84, 3.28, and 2.73 where he pitched 27, 33, and 34 games, respectively. What did our pitchers do??? Anything close to that??? It wasn't just one year. Face it, the Mets sucked in most of those years which is why he didn't have a better record. Yeah, I realize that it is the NL, but the guy is fairly durable despite his age. Some here are considering Jackson for the same reason. Quality starts.

Knuckleballers screw with the opposing batters, and it is worth it to get the opposition out of a rhythm in a 3 game set. (Unfortunately, they screw with our catchers as well!)

Another package of Red Sox players might work. I'd give him 2/18 or 3/24. I'm sure he is looking for more. He has been a good pitcher for 3 years. 4 years by the standards of our pitchers as he had a better ERA 4 years ago than most of our guys this year.

I don't think the Mets will move him. But maybe KC picks him up.

the SOX should sign DICKEY just so the SOFT ONE could refer to him as dick-head for the entire 2013 season.

I support this move because the odds are good that Softy's virtual brain would explode if we acquire Dickey. He could use a new obsession/scratching post and what better than a knuckler?

In response to slomag's comment:

I like it....and agree with all

In response to moonslav59's comment:

What do the Rays have to show for all of their pitching?

In response to Drewski5's comment:

They got 4 years of being darn good bets to win the division and darn good bets to win it again next year which ain't a small thing. considering all the other teams in the division outspend them by a ton and a half.

In response to iamme17's comment:

Fair.  I take my comment back.  I forgot they won the division in 2008.  3 playoff appearances in 5 years is good.  

My apologies, Moon.

Do you think the Rays would trade w/ us?  I keep hearing David Price is available.  What about the package: 

Doubront

ONe of: Webster /  Barnes

Boegarts

Cecchini

 

????

In response to Drewski5's comment:

Since 2007, more than we do.

It's not all about pitching, but to think we have a chance by bringing back a 5.00 ERA rotation minus Beckett & plus Lackey is not realistic.

On paper, right now, looking at 2013 only: I'll take the rays 25 man roster over ours easily. Same with the O's. The Jays. The Yanks. The A's...

In response to moonslav59's comment:

Have to agree with Moon here.  Since 2007 the Sox are the only AL East team that has failed to show any improvement and have trended in a downward spiral ending with the last place finish last year...they are certainly way more than a player or two from being in contention in the AL East again.  Pitching is the name of the game and the Sox flat don't have it.

In response to djcbuffum's comment:

Oh Boy!!!! Where the heck is Marabelli when we might need him? Here we go again? Special catcher ?  Tell me it's only a dream ????

From today's FanGraphs chat with columnist Dave Cameron:

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/

4:40 [ Comment From red met red met: ]

What has more trade value: one year of Jacoby Elllsbury or one year of R.A. Dickey?

Wednesday December 5, 2012 4:40 red met 4:40

Dave Cameron: Dickey, easy.

In response to djcbuffum's comment:

If we get Dickey we may have to sign Salty to catch him so its a big no, especially at his age.