Realistic Yankee Thread

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    [QUOTE]The point is that a new Yankee Realistic thread will be inundated with a mixture of genune Red Sox fans, genuine Yankee fans, pretend fans of both teams, generic trolls, concern trolls, and others bent on bickering, nonsense debating, inflating their egos. role playing, and Babe mimics. The forum and any new " Super Thread" needs to be moderated. It is simple. How the he-ll Moonslav's Realistic Thread needs no moderation is a miracle.
    Posted by FortMeade[/QUOTE]

    Unmistakeable pike-e-nese. He does have an articulate way with words. He even has a point, although dwells too much on the sardonic side of this forum.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Realistic Yankee Thread : It's really a shame that your Rays and Yankess threads have been deleted Moon.  I'm not sure why they would have been deleted.  I would have to guess along with others that one of the mods just didn't read it closely enough, and that it was deleted erroneously. FWIW, you really shouldn't feel the need to have to defend your threads (or yourself against other posters).   It is obvious that you put a good amount of time and thought into your posts.  Anyone who is here regularly knows the quality of your posts and of your threads.   Keep up the great work.  :-)
    Posted by RedSoxKimmi[/QUOTE]

    Thanks.
    40+ years of being an avid Sox fan, but not living in New England anymore, makes this site my home away from home. 

     
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    Where is moonslav59, the Dean of the Board, on this issue?


    Which Ishh?
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Realistic Yankee Thread : You said the same thing last season when I created a Yankee thread and it was removed almost immediately. First of all, you can't remove your own threads, and you know this. You guys are constantly deflecting the blame onto Sox fans. Just like the blame for bumping threads, multiple aliases, deleted posts and threads, and anything and everything that is wrong with this board. I have absolutely no idea how that still goes over here. Yankee fans can do no wrong. It's unbelievable on a rival team's site. It's not even on your radar that Yankee fans had it removed. Their numbers in the off-season can easily eclipse the Sox fans. It was either Moon or BDC at will according to you. Again, unbelievable. You also knnow that you can't put threads back that have been deleted. What should happen here is there should be an ability to create a thread that would look at the Yankees realistically -- like is done with the Sox and the Rays, and not have it removed. The removal makes no sense.
    Posted by kimsaysthis[/QUOTE]

    I didn't blame Moon for anything. I just said I believe you can remove a thread of your creation. If I am wrong, then I am so corrected now. Stop thinking Yankee fans are out to get you. It is tedious and annoying.

    Bigger question - why didn't they just move the threads to one of the other Sox boards if BDC didn't feel it belonged here?
     
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    [QUOTE]Bad move to remove that thread. I don't think Dottie works 24/7, so there might be a rotation of thread watchers, who have different standards about what should be removed. He/she did not perform due diligence, and probably went largely by the title. Someone should notify Dottie and ask why it was removed, to the point that even a few Yankee fans are wondering. Also, I believe they can restore deleted threads, but don't hold me to it; I think they've done it before, but I don't have perfect recall about when.
    Posted by nhsteven[/QUOTE]

    Any thread being removed should at least be read, or at least read the OP to determine the intention. I, personally, don't believe it was a random removal. I think a lot of posts and threads are deleted when the Yankee fans are unhappy with them, and complain about them -- even possibly just to a poster who lives for those things. Posters have even been removed for such reasons.
     
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    [QUOTE]I don't see the Rays thread anymore either, but the one on Friedman is still around. Go figure! My thread on the Yanks had everything to do with the Sox and our chances of passing somebody in our division. It was respectful and filled with facts about age, trends, and possibly weaknesses and question marks.  I think sometimes the monitors just delete any thread with the word "Yank" in it. The Rays threads lasted months and months, but my Part III is nowhere to be found. At least they could have just moved them to another thread rather than just delete all my well researched work. I don't save most of my research.
    Posted by moonslav59[/QUOTE]

    That's just it. Your Rays thread was already on Part III when it was removed. I believe when they removed the Yankee thread, they had to remove the Rays thread. But there weren't any removals until the Yankee thread was created.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Realistic Yankee Thread : This site needs yankee fans to keep it real. Otherwise it turns into a love in with unrealistic expectations. Must have a healthy mix of fans to keep it real. If BDC eliminated that thread and others like it they are signing their own death certificate. They will lose posters bottom line.
    Posted by Hingham Hammer[/QUOTE]

    This is a fan site. Everyone here doesn't have to always keep it real. That's a Yankee mantra that is not duplicated by Sox fans on Yankee sites. If I'm lying, tell me where the Yankee board is that has Sox fans telling Yankee fans they're there to make sure they keep it real. LOL

    I have no problem with respectful Yankee fans coming here, but this whole "you have to watch what you say because of Yankee fans here" is ridiculous. And anyone who believes Sox fans would just be having some love fest here without the Yankee fans, can't possibly be reading this board.
     
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    [QUOTE]I guess that starting threads with refererances to the Yankees in the tittle without includung a reference to the Sox is grounds for those with oversight to remove them without actually checking the content. Perhaps Moon (and others) should rename the thread to "The Yank's tank in 2012, Red Sox seize opportunity"... Frankly, there are far more Red Sox post that should be deleted, then those that are started to discuss our long time rivals...
    Posted by Beantowne[/QUOTE]

    The Rays' threads Moon created were on Part III. Why would a thread be removed because it had the word "Yankees" in the title? Aren't the Yankees our rivals as well?
     
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    I noticed a few days ago the "moved" some threads. I wonder why they didn't just do that. At least I could have gone there and cut & pasted my post and re-labelled it here again.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Realistic Yankee Thread : I think your arguments have merit, Kim, and I think the thread should not have been removed. The Red Sox and the Yankees are the Ying and Yang of the AL East, if not all of baseball.  Complementary opposites.  They - we - are locked in an etertnal struggle with each other and our intentions.   And we are their fans.  We follow their fortunes because, in the best of times and on the best of terms, the rivalry between BOS and NYY provides evidence of our better natures - striving for excellence, purity of purpose and intentions, humility in victory and grace in defeat.  We want to see ourselves in them.  We want to identify and like them. Like I said, on the best of days, we look for these things, even if they don't always happen. LOL. Whether one or the other is evil should be beside the point.  This is extreme competition.  The best and worst of ourselves is at stake here. We will fight the other until hell freezes over. And after that, we will fight on the ice. That said, it is impossible to think of one franchose making a move without evaluating the potential impact on the other.  So within that context, it is perfectly reasonable to have a thread that talks about the Yankees because, inevitably within the context of the postings witihin that thread, discussion of the Red Sox will follow. If this were not so, then why would the Yankees and the Red Sox have been involved in so many bidding wars for free agents and/or trades??  Why would they have gone to battle over the srvices of Curt Schilling and Alex Gonzalelez?  Like they say on Law and Order - "Asked and answered your honor!" And you are right with respect to moonslav59.  I cannot imagine him being banned for any reason.  He is the most reasonable among us and a superior maderator of a thread, as his Realistic threads have proven in the past. So I support your premise and you are free to use my name, for what it is worth, in any defense that you might want to muster against this egregious decision.   I think we need some answers on this one.  We don't need answers very often, but this one needs explaining. Thanks for raising the issue, Kim.  
    Posted by summerof67[/QUOTE]

    Thank you for your beautiful post, Summer. Although I can't say I can agree with "We want to see ourselves in them. We want to identify and like them." :)

    Btw, I love "We will fight each other until hell freezes over. And after that, we will fight on the ice." If you wrote that quote yourself, it's very poetic, and perfectly apt.
     
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    [QUOTE]There are seven deadly words you can never say on this site...
    Posted by bald-predictions[/QUOTE]

    Eight, if you add "Yankees".
     
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    [QUOTE]Beantowne had it right.  There are soooo many threads that should be removed that aren't.  And one that is truly about baseball, and about how the Sox will compete against their ALE rivals, gets deleted?  Huh? Those of us who were around before this board was changed, and BDC became the de facto gestapo, can remember many threads about the Yanks and comparing Yanks to Sox.  And it led to some lively discussions that could get rude and crude, but I miss those days.  There was much more about baseball, and much less name calling; about who is a troll, who is a pink hat, who is a REAL Sox fan, etc.
    Posted by parhunter1[/QUOTE]

    And those were created by Yankee fans to hang out with each other, and their friends here. That may be the difference. They would have to look at the Yankees realistically on Moon's thread as that's what he does. Not as appealing, apparently.
     
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    [QUOTE]The point is that a new Yankee Realistic thread will be inundated with a mixture of genune Red Sox fans, genuine Yankee fans, pretend fans of both teams, generic trolls, concern trolls, and others bent on bickering, nonsense debating, inflating their egos. role playing, and Babe mimics. The forum and any new " Super Thread" needs to be moderated. It is simple. How the he-ll Moonslav's Realistic Thread needs no moderation is a miracle.
    Posted by FortMeade[/QUOTE]

    This whole board is already monitored. There doesn't need to be special "moderating" for a realistic thread.
     
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    [QUOTE]Where is moonslav59 , the Dean of the Board, on this issue?
    Posted by BurritoT[/QUOTE]

    He made a post on the thread long before your post. You must have missed it.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Realistic Yankee Thread : I didn't blame Moon for anything. I just said I believe you can remove a thread of your creation. If I am wrong, then I am so corrected now. Stop thinking Yankee fans are out to get you. It is tedious and annoying. Bigger question - why didn't they just move the threads to one of the other Sox boards if BDC didn't feel it belonged here?
    Posted by jesseyeric[/QUOTE]

    You can't remove your own thread. That's why posters have put "ignore this thread" and such things in the title when they want it gone. Sometimes posters just do that because the thread they put up was already put up by someone else, and they can't remove it. It's also probably because you would be removing other posts as well that weren't yours on the thread.

    Again, I was run off the board by a Yankee fan, and I have to deal with Yankee fans putting up abusive pics and calling me other posters because they don't like what I say about the Yankees. I've also witnessed Yankee fans going after other Sox fans here, and blaming them for everything wrong with the board. This is a Red Sox fan forum. Posters shouldn't have to deal with that. Yankee fans certainly aren't on their sites.

    And the thread did belong here. Just like all the realistic Rays' threads that were never removed until a Yankee one was put up.
     
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    Bottom line, this is a Red Sox forum. If you have to worry about what is going to upset Yankee fans here, you take away the ability for Sox fans to discuss their biggest rival on thier own message board. It then just becomes a Yankee forum with Sox fans posting on it tiptoeing around the ruling Yankee fans. I feel Sox fans already have to be careful how enthusiatic they get about their own team here. Enough is enough.
     
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    [QUOTE]I noticed a few days ago the "moved" some threads. I wonder why they didn't just do that. At least I could have gone there and cut & pasted my post and re-labelled it here again.
    Posted by moonslav59[/QUOTE]

    I really wish you would consider putting the thread up again. You have the support here, even of some of the Yankee fans. I realize it took a lot of work on your part, and that's the real shame here, so I feel bad asking you to do it. I wish I could, I just don't have your expertise. :) Your Rays not going away threads were a huge success here. I believe this one should be as well. But, ultimately, the decision is up to you.

    FTR, IMO the fact it wasn't just moved like the other threads, just seems more like someone wanted it removed completely.
     
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    It's funny that Zac is the only Yankee fan on the thread that isn't saying the thread shouldn't have been removed. Zac is only about Sox fans being realistic about THEIR team, and has no interest in any realistic look at his own team. After all what would all his Internet fans who root him on say if he did?
     
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    [QUOTE]ThatWasMe does hate to be questioned. Those without answers always feel that way.
    Posted by FortMeade[/QUOTE]

    It took you 3 hours to come up with that response?

    Could be that I have a problem with who is asking the questions, which is a question in itself.



     
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    Looks like CC lost a few.


     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Realistic Yankee Thread : You can't remove your own thread. That's why posters have put "ignore this thread" and such things in the title when they want it gone. Sometimes posters just do that because the thread they put up was already put up by someone else, and they can't remove it. It's also probably because you would be removing other posts as well that weren't yours on the thread. Again, I was run off the board by a Yankee fan, and I have to deal with Yankee fans putting up abusive pics and calling me other posters because they don't like what I say about the Yankees. I've also witnessed Yankee fans going after other Sox fans here, and blaming them for everything wrong with the board. This is a Red Sox fan forum. Posters shouldn't have to deal with that. Yankee fans certainly aren't on their sites. And the thread did belong here. Just like all the realistic Rays' threads that were never removed until a Yankee one was put up.
    Posted by kimsaysthis[/QUOTE]

    There is no one here who doesn't respect Moon except for you know who. Also, I haven't seen or read one comment that agreed with the thread being deleted. It should not have been.

    Maybe Dottie has listened to you whine about Yankee fans all this time and decided if a thread has the word Yankee in it, then it should be removed.

    Dottie is the only one who can answer as to why they removed it and the Rays thread as well - why don't you ask them? And if you are not capable - I will.
    Dottie - what's up with the removal?
     
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    [QUOTE]Moon has been a respected poster here for years. As far as I can tell, he has never bashed the Yankees in his threads for fun. He is also the author of a series of "Tampa Bay not going away" threads, much to my disappointment. Not that he puts them up, but because when he puts them up, I know we're going to have a problem with them. His Yank Tank thread was well-researched, and as per usual Moon, also included statistics to back up what he was posting. My opinion is there is no way that thread should have been removed as everything to do with the Yankees has to do with the Sox being in the same division. Again, his Rays threads have always remained as well. Do you believe his realistic thread on the Yankees possibly tanking this season should have been removed on a Sox forum? I'm not putting this up as a poll because that's anonymous voting, and you never know where the votes are coming from when you do that.
    Posted by kimsaysthis[/QUOTE]
    His post should have remained. Being a Yankee fan Kim, I realistically am a gaged optimist and very objective about any team I root for. Come on mods. The truth shouldn't be dispelled because their fans aren't pachyderms. Truth be told. Not sure why it was deleted. Does anyone know why actually?
     
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    [QUOTE]I don't see the Rays thread anymore either, but the one on Friedman is still around. Go figure! My thread on the Yanks had everything to do with the Sox and our chances of passing somebody in our division. It was respectful and filled with facts about age, trends, and possibly weaknesses and question marks.  I think sometimes the monitors just delete any thread with the word "Yank" in it. The Rays threads lasted months and months, but my Part III is nowhere to be found. At least they could have just moved them to another thread rather than just delete all my well researched work. I don't save most of my research.
    Posted by moonslav59[/QUOTE]
    Shouldn't have been 'yanked' Moon. Great post. Makes the Yanks fan more aware of their team's chances this year. Thanks.
     
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    [QUOTE]Looks like CC lost a few.
    Posted by ThatWasMe[/QUOTE]He had a few to lose. If memory serves he came to camp looking like that last year and ended the season looking like a whale.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Realistic Yankee Thread : He had a few to lose. If memory serves he came to camp looking like that last year and ended the season looking like a whale.
    Posted by Hingham Hammer[/QUOTE]

    3 seasons with the Yankees, 3 season with more then 230 innings.

    Maybe Beckett should put some weight on.
     

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