Re: Red Sox are not considering Arnie Beyelet
posted at 10/12/2012 3:07 PM EDT
In response to parhunter55's comment:
Yes, bringing in a relative unknown now would make Lucchino look less credible and omnicient in his mind. That is my opinion. He forced Bobby V on Ben becuase he thought he knew better. He thought that bringing in a an inexperienced manager, such as Alomar or Sveum would not be a big enough name to excite the fan base. To hire a guy like Beyeler now would do even more damage to his credibility and ego. That is how I see it, ridiculous as you may think it is.
I don't know who YOU think will make up the 2012 roster for the Boston Red Sox, but I think that quite a few will be from Pawtucket, and will have played for Arnie Beyeler. And since I believe that the future success of the team relies heavily on the success and production of these players, I also believe that bringing in a guy to manage them that they know, are comfortable with, have won with, and is someone they can believe in will make them better players (and the team therefore more successful). But that is me, and I am no Larry Lucchino, for sure.
If the question is, can he deal with the big egos such as Pedroia and Ortiz, and will they respect him because he wasn't a MLB player, well I guess I think that therein lies much of the problem with the current (2011 and 2012) Red Sox. They tuned out the most successful (in terms of WS wins, anyway) manager in the team's history and walked all over him. What will prevent them from doing that to the next guy? Only when Ben C and the owners get behind the new guy 100% and enforce his ways will that change. And it won't matter how the new manager is, with the possible exception of Joe Torre (which is why--if he became available--he would be my asolute first and only choice).
My first comment is to agree with you on one thing about Lucchino...I'd like him to remove himself from the day to day baseball operations process and leave that to the people he hired to run it...that is Ben Cherington and his assistants. If it is his ego that keeps him involved that I can also agree with...but I diagree that hiring Beyeler would tarnish his ego in any way since the post hiring spin from Red Sox ownership would sing his praises.
I disagree and hope wholeheartedy that the 2013 team consists of former Pawtucket players as this would indicate that no improvements were made to the 2012 product. The team ended up with the following players from the system playing a more than expected role on the big club, that includes Nava, Ciriaco, Kalish, Gomez, Iglisias, Lavarnway Mortensen & Tazawa. I believe that Ciriaco and Tazawa will definitely be back in 2013, and Lavarnway, Iglisias and Kalish or Nava might be back deoending on what acquisitions the team makes at their positions in the offseason.
I suspect the FO will acquire a major league level 1B and LF or RF to take over fulltime, along with one SP to fill the rotation. I hope they also upgrade at SS with a major league talent as I don't think Iglesias is or will ever be a major league hitter.
The new manager will come in with a clean slate and likely be either a recently retired player or former coach in Boston. Bobby Valentine was the in the wrong place at the wrong time and had no chance at succeeding since he was out of the game for a long period and he didn't have respect from the players from day 1. There's got to be a new attitude demanded by the organization or the players who don't want to conform get shipped out.