Re: Red Sox Pitching
posted at 12/3/2012 12:13 AM EST
In response to SonicsMonksLyresVicars' comment:
In response to BMav's comment:
I really want a definition of an "ace" from someone...
I believe an Ace is a top 10-15 starter, while a number 1 is a top 30 starter. Thats my definition anyway. I see Dan Haren as a potential Ace if healthy and Anibal Sanchez as a rock solid number 1 starter.
I object to using phrases like "ace", "nbr 1", "nbr 2", etc. on the grounds they are subjective and fairly meaningless. That said, I would describe an "ace" as a pitcher who, barring unforeseen circumstances e.g. injury, can be relied on to consisently deliver something like 30+ starts, 200+ innings, ERA<3.00, WHIP<1.20, etc....and there are not many of them.
I don't think pointing at the top 10-15 starters and declaring them all aces makes sense....it's got to be a Halliday/Sabathia/Kershaw/Hamels/Cain type to me, not just the 15th best out of a fallow period.
Sorta my point with all this.
As far as I can tell on this board, "ace" means "really, really good pitcher on another team." A pitcher has to meet both parts of those criteria to be called an "ace."
THere is that same feeling like with NBA Scouts - the more Sox fans see a pitcher, the greater than chance of him having an ineffective stretch/outing and therefore disproving his acehood.