Red Sox Win 73% of Games Where They Score 4 or More Runs

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    Red Sox Win 73% of Games Where They Score 4 or More Runs

    11-4 in games where they score 4 or more runs.

    Middlebrooks should not have been bean counted. That said, the Red Sox still need to acquire a young superstar RH Of'er. The best value and winning Red Sox identity is a young superstar RH profile.
     
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    11-4 in games where they score 4 or more runs. Middlebrooks should not have been bean counted. That said, the Red Sox still need to acquire a young superstar RH Of'er. The best value and winning Red Sox identity is a young superstar RH profile.
    Posted by hankwilliamsjr

    How does that percentage compare with the league-wide percentage?
     
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    Re: Red Sox Win 73% of Games Where They Score 4 or More Runs

    I don't have this year's scores but from 2000 through 2011 the home team won 73.70% of the time it scored 4+ runs and the visiting team won 67.69% of the times when it scored 4+ runs.

    During the same time period the Red Sox won 75.67% of their home games and 73.51% of their road games when they scored 4+ runs.

    source: database derived from Retrosheet Game Logs
     
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    And they win 100% of the time when they score 1 more run than the opponent! This is nonsense......Should you inform the Sox FO and instruct the team to score 4 or more runs every game? LOL Put on the uni and give your best effort like Pedey does. That's the STAT that wins. And we have a young superstar OF'r name Ellsbury...Sorry if he hits on the wrong side of the plate...maybe Crawford will fill your fantasy, although with all the trashing he takes I'm surprised he even wants to play here.....Pretty good ballplayer though compared to Byrd and DMac 
     
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    Re: Red Sox Win 73% of Games Where They Score 4 or More Runs

    it's 11-5, not 11-4...not that big of a deal, but with so few games 1 game does affect the winning percentage.

    and they have won exactly 1 game where they score 3 or less...the pitching staff has to step up and pitch a gem occassionally...this team doesn't do it.  they have lost games scoring 12, 9, and 8 runs too.
     
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    Re: Red Sox Win 73% of Games Where They Score 4 or More Runs

    compare the rst of the division in that same stat:

    Orioles-14-2
    Yankees 14-4
    Jays 16-4
    Rays 13-4

    Sox 11-5

    If you score 4 runs, you should win at a high clip.
     
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    Another BS stat shot down.

     
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    In Response to Re: Red Sox Win 73% of Games Where They Score 4 or More Runs:
    compare the rst of the division in that same stat: Orioles-14-2 Yankees 14-4 Jays 16-4 Rays 13-4 Sox 11-5 If you score 4 runs, you should win at a high clip.
    Posted by jarretfromportsmouth


    Oh I see.  So all the other teams in the AL East have a better record when they score four or more runs.

    THis must be because they have better pitching.

    Derp.
     
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    In Response to Re: Red Sox Win 73% of Games Where They Score 4 or More Runs:
    In Response to Re: Red Sox Win 73% of Games Where They Score 4 or More Runs : Oh I see.  So all the other teams in the AL East have a better record when they score four or more runs. THis must be because they have better pitching. Derp.
    Posted by snakeoil123


    HAHA, I know it seems so crazy doesn't it??  People can try to spin it anyway they like but the Red Sox pitching is bad...plain and simple.  The bullpen has been getting better, but the starters can't seem to keep them in games early.

    Lester 4.62 ERA (The alleged "ace of the staff")
    Beckett 4.45 ERA (making a lot of money to be mediocre)
    Buchholz 9.09 ERA (10 home runs allowed already, supposed to be the 2nd ace)
    Doubront 5.29ERA
    Bard 4.38 ERA

    That right there is the problem.

     
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    In Response to Re: Red Sox Win 73% of Games Where They Score 4 or More Runs:
    In Response to Re: Red Sox Win 73% of Games Where They Score 4 or More Runs : HAHA, I know it seems so crazy doesn't it??  People can try to spin it anyway they like but the Red Sox pitching is bad...plain and simple.  The bullpen has been getting better, but the starters can't seem to keep them in games early. Lester 4.62 ERA (The alleged "ace of the staff") Beckett 4.45 ERA (making a lot of money to be mediocre) Buchholz 9.09 ERA (10 home runs allowed already, supposed to be the 2nd ace) Doubront 5.29ERA Bard 4.38 ERA That right there is the problem.
    Posted by jarretfromportsmouth

    Indeed.

    thanks for the team stats around the 4 run thing.  I had been curious but was too lazy to look them up.

     
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    I would like to see the Sox start winning games 5-3, 3-1, etc.  Then we know the pitching staff is getting the job done. 
     
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    Red Sox win 32% of games where they give up 4 runs or more.

    Moral of the thread.  To win more games, the Red Sox need to score more runs and they need to give up fewer runs.

     
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    11-4 in games where they score 4 or more runs. Middlebrooks should not have been bean counted. That said, the Red Sox still need to acquire a young superstar RH Of'er. The best value and winning Red Sox identity is a young superstar RH profile.
    Posted by hankwilliamsjr


    You act like this is some incredible revelation!  EVERYBODY would love to have a superstar RH outfielder.  Are you that dense???  If we could get one, we would be all for it.

    You??? Just love to b i t c h about Ells no matter how great he plays. If we could trade Crawford for a GREAT RH hitter, we would be all over it.

    As for your startling revelation about winning 73% of 4+run games???  Wow!  You are a genius!  Thanks for doing the calculus.
     
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    All we need is a RH ACE pitcher who drives in 4 runs a game .... Start the search !!!
     
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    this thread makes me dizzy....cant we all just focus on middlebrooks and enjoy him?  yea our pitching is bad - and our hitting feast or famine - but we have the solution with youth...this is the key "stat" in my arguments for success
     
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    11-4 in games where they score 4 or more runs. Middlebrooks should not have been bean counted. That said, the Red Sox still need to acquire a young superstar RH Of'er. The best value and winning Red Sox identity is a young superstar RH profile. Posted by hankwilliamsjr
    He wasn't "bean counted" or in grown up terms had his clock held back. He would have held back until June. He was in AA last year and they had a 13 million dollar 3rd baseman. I was pro trading Youk but it is silly to think Middlebrooks was held back. Use real terminology and you will appear to have some creditability.
     
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    He would have held back until June.

    Woulda coulda is bean counting, blojo. Start using fake terms like "creditablilty", and you might appear to be sober.

    The issue isn't what other teams records are, the issue is the team identity that is a winner for the Red Sox. The fatal flaw has been temporary filled by Middlebrooks, though that is unlikely to last. The good pitching performances haven't produced more than about .500 baseball because of the fatal flaw. Nice to see Middlebrooks show the winning Red Sox identity.

    Carry on, drivel drones, with "it's the pitching lets go get another Ace, doo dee dum dum dum!.
     
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    He would have held back until June. Woulda coulda is bean counting, blojo. Start using fake terms like "creditablilty", and you might appear to be sober. The issue isn't what other teams records are, the issue is the team identity that is a winner for the Red Sox. The fatal flaw has been temporary filled by Middlebrooks, though that is unlikely to last. The good pitching performances haven't produced more than about .500 baseball because of the fatal flaw. Nice to see Middlebrooks show the winning Red Sox identity. Carry on, drivel drones, with "it's the pitching lets go get another Ace, doo dee dum dum dum!.
    Posted by hankwilliamsjr


    More good comedy, there's nothing more entertaining than an idiot who thinks he's a genius.
     
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    Hanky, if pitching isn't a factor then why were you on trollish tirades and mocking Lackey and Wakefield year after year in here? 

    Are you prepared to apologize to us for wasting our time with all those pitching tirades? 

    "Orioles-14-2
    Yankees 14-4
    Jays 16-4
    Rays 13-4

    Sox 11-5

    Right - so, in other words, if we score 4+ runs we'll finish last place in the AL East. 

    Sounds like a great plan from Hank!
     
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    You obviously don't understand Fenway and the Red Sox winning identity. I never said "pithing wasn't a factor". I said that the Red Sox flaw is offense, and it is. Posting the success of other AL teams who score 4 or more runs is simply undercutting your comment.

    The money wasted on two veteran losers needs to be used towards team needs.
     
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    He would have held back until June. Woulda coulda is bean counting, blojo. Start using fake terms like "creditablilty", and you might appear to be sober. The issue isn't what other teams records are, the issue is the team identity that is a winner for the Red Sox. The fatal flaw has been temporary filled by Middlebrooks, though that is unlikely to last. The good pitching performances haven't produced more than about .500 baseball because of the fatal flaw. Nice to see Middlebrooks show the winning Red Sox identity. Carry on, drivel drones, with "it's the pitching lets go get another Ace, doo dee dum dum dum!.
    Posted by hankwilliamsjr
    Sorry I posted on my phone, but my point remains and you largely didn't address. If they wanted to gain another year of control they would have waited until June. In what world is a startering staff's ERA over 5 anything but a less than 500 baseball. Actually 4.50  would mean you are average. The funny thing is because of the offense, the best offense in baseball, the Sox have moments where they look like they might be a good team.

     
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    If they wanted to gain another year of control they would have waited until June

    Before Youk went down, that's what Cherry bean counter was planning to do. Since the team stunk because of terrible middle of the lineup RH plate work from their only pipe dream hope, Youk, they spilled the beans like the idiots they are.

    ERA aggregates and total runs are meaningless. It's all about the game logs. When the Red Sox score 4 earned runs or more, they have a winning identity that they must have for a team that is:

    In Fenway half the time
    AL/DH
     
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    Red Sox win 100% of games where they don't give up any runs.  Clearly the solution is to get pitchers that never give up any runs.  /facepalm
     
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    In Response to Re: Red Sox Win 73% of Games Where They Score 4 or More Runs:
    If they wanted to gain another year of control they would have waited until June Before Youk went down, that's what Cherry bean counter was planning to do. Since the team stunk because of terrible middle of the lineup RH plate work from their only pipe dream hope, Youk, they spilled the beans like the idiots they are. ERA aggregates and total runs are meaningless. It's all about the game logs. When the Red Sox score 4 earned runs or more, they have a winning identity that they must have for a team that is: In Fenway half the time AL/DH
    Posted by hankwilliamsjr


    And when they give up 4 runs or more, they have a losing record.

    How many more games would they have won if they had scored 4 runs in every game? 

    Answer: 3 games.  They tie in 2 other games.

     
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    Re: Red Sox Win 73% of Games Where They Score 4 or More Runs

    Answer: 3 more games with current roster construction
     
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