Reddick Taking The Gas Pipe In Sept. AGAIN!

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    Re: Reddick Taking The Gas Pipe In Sept. AGAIN!

    Reddick has a 4.2 WAR this year.  The only Sox player with a higher WAR is Pedroia at 4.6.  Cody Ross has a 2.0.

     
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    Re: Reddick Taking The Gas Pipe In Sept. AGAIN!

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    Reddick has a 4.2 WAR this year.  The only Sox player with a higher WAR is Pedroia at 4.6.  Cody Ross has a 2.0.

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    That's cool.  If Reddick was on the Red Sox he would be 9th in season OPS.

     

    Right behind Carl Crawford.

     

     
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    Reddick has a 4.2 WAR this year.  The only Sox player with a higher WAR is Pedroia at 4.6.  Cody Ross has a 2.0.

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    I don't dislike Reddick at all, and wish him the best, but his WAR is greatly influenced by the defensive aspect of the metric, which I think is overemphasized for RF'ers.

    Ross and Reddick are near equal in the offensive portion of the metric (10.9 to 10.6).

    I must admit, I am surprised with all the HRs while playing in Oakland half the games.

     
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    Dave Kingman at best.

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    Hard to take you seriously.

    Kingman could not field at any position.  Maybe you didn't watch baseball back when Kingman was playing.

     
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    Reddick hit 2 HRs today - up to 31.

    Oops!

     

     

     

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    Oops what?  He's Rob Deer.

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    Maybe he's more like Granderson.  Except Reddick is a better fielder and has stolen more bases this season.

    Of course, at 25, I expect Reddick to get better.  You apparently think baseball players peak at 24. 

    In the words of Artie Johnson:  "Interesting, but stupid."

     
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    Reddick actually compares with this guy quite nicely:

    Former Red Sox legend:

    Age 26

    HRs 24

    RBI 63 (only 63 RBI with 24 HRs - what a slacker hitting solo HRs just like Redick!)

    Average:  .247

    Strikeouts:  119

     
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    Re: Reddick Taking The Gas Pipe In Sept. AGAIN!

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    In response to moonslav59's comment:
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    Dave Kingman at best.

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    Hard to take you seriously.

    Kingman could not field at any position.  Maybe you didn't watch baseball back when Kingman was playing.

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    Seriously? Yeah, Reddick is a better fielder, but I was referring to the offense. Besides, Dave might have made up for his lack of fielding with slightly better hitting.

    Kingman Career at 162 games:

    .236  36  101  (151 Ks) .302/.478/.780

    Reddick in 2012 pro-rated to 162 games:

    .245  33 87  (159 Ks) .309/.469/.776

    Career: .246 22 65 (127 Ks) .302/.448/.749

     

    Of course Josh can improve: Dave can not. I'd think Josh would be thrilled to average 100+ RBIs per 162 games.

     
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    Reddick hit 2 HRs today - up to 31.

    Oops!

     

     

     

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    Oops what?  He's Rob Deer.

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    Maybe he's more like Granderson.  Except Reddick is a better fielder and has stolen more bases this season.

    Of course, at 25, I expect Reddick to get better.  You apparently think baseball players peak at 24. 

    In the words of Artie Johnson:  "Interesting, but stupid."

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    They all peak at different points in their careers.  You know that right?  You think everyone has their best years at 26 through 28?  Talk about stupid.

    Anyway, Deer is an excellent comparison.  Except Deer has a much higher OPS

     

     
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    In response to moonslav59's comment:
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    In response to Schumpeters-Ghost's comment:
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    Dave Kingman at best.

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    Hard to take you seriously.

    Kingman could not field at any position.  Maybe you didn't watch baseball back when Kingman was playing.

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    Seriously? Yeah, Reddick is a better fielder, but I was referring to the offense. Besides, Dave might have made up for his lack of fielding with slightly better hitting.

    Kingman Career at 162 games:

    .236  36  101  (151 Ks) .302/.478/.780

    Reddick in 2012 pro-rated to 162 games:

    .245  33 87  (159 Ks) .309/.469/.776

    Career: .246 22 65 (127 Ks) .302/.448/.749

     

    Of course Josh can improve: Dave can not. I'd think Josh would be thrilled to average 100+ RBIs per 162 games.

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    Yep, apparently schump is thrilled with a guy who hits 240, with 30 homers, strikes out 25 percent of the time, and had an OPS around 750.  

    Also apparently he gets angry when pointed out this is not very good.

     
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    Yep, apparently schump is thrilled with a guy who hits 240, with 30 homers, strikes out 25 percent of the time, and had an OPS around 750.  

    Also apparently he gets angry when pointed out this is not very good

     

    If he loves Reddick's numbers, why don't we hear him singing Salty's praises?

    Salty has near identical numbers from a more traditional weak offensive position.

     
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    It sounds like you guys are carrying the water for Cherington.  Don't want to admit that he made a bad trade here.   I don't want to kill Ben C. , but let's just be honest here. This is Reddick's first year playing full time. No platoon.  He is batting .245 , 31 homers , 81 RBIs , 28 doubles , 5 triples , 11 stolen bases and 14 outfield assists.  A pretty darn good season by any standard.  Salty , in a much more hitter-friendly park ,  is batting .226 , 24 homers , 56 RBIs , 17 doubles , 1 triple , no stolen bases ( although many have been stolen on him ).   There is no comparison between these two players.  I am willing to admit that Andrew Bailey may turn out to be a good closer for us next year, but it is also very possible that Reddick will also improve next year.  There is no shame in admitting that , at this point , it looks like Oakland got the better of this trade. No need to rip Reddick in trying to defend Ben's deal.

     
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    It sounds like you guys are carrying the water for Cherington.  Don't want to admit that he made a bad trade here.   I don't want to kill Ben C. , but let's just be honest here. This is Reddick's first year playing full time. No platoon.  He is batting .245 , 31 homers , 81 RBIs , 28 doubles , 5 triples , 11 stolen bases and 14 outfield assists.  A pretty darn good season by any standard.  Salty , in a much more hitter-friendly park ,  is batting .226 , 24 homers , 56 RBIs , 17 doubles , 1 triple , no stolen bases ( although many have been stolen on him ).   There is no comparison between these two players.  I am willing to admit that Andrew Bailey may turn out to be a good closer for us next year, but it is also very possible that Reddick will also improve next year.  There is no shame in admitting that , at this point , it looks like Oakland got the better of this trade. No need to rip Reddick in trying to defend Ben's deal.

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    Oakland looks like they got the better of this trade so far, but it's way too early to judge.  The funny thing is, probably the only person in New England who didn't like this trade at the time it was completed was Reddick's Mom.

     
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    Yep, apparently schump is thrilled with a guy who hits 240, with 30 homers, strikes out 25 percent of the time, and had an OPS around 750.  

    Also apparently he gets angry when pointed out this is not very good.

     

    Reddick has the 4th or 5th highest WAR in RF, not very good???  How can you discount fielding?  Look at the whole picture.

    Avg RF OPS  .760      JR  .774

    Take park effect into account and JR is a bit above average hitting and well above average fielding.

    ProJo: Boston has allowed more sacrifice flies than any other team in baseball, and nearly double the league average. While that's a crude judge of outfield arm strength, it speaks to other teams' willingness to run on medium-depth and even shallow fly-ball outs.

     MLB OF Assists:

    Francouer  19

    Gordon   16

    Hunter   14

    Kubel   14

    Reddick  14 (5 errors)

    Red Sox OF  25 (19 errors)

     

     
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    Yep, apparently schump is thrilled with a guy who hits 240, with 30 homers, strikes out 25 percent of the time, and had an OPS around 750.  

    Also apparently he gets angry when pointed out this is not very good.

     

    Reddick has the 4th or 5th highest WAR in RF, not very good???  How can you discount fielding?  Look at the whole picture.

    Avg RF OPS  .760

    Take park effect into account and JR is a bit above average hitting and well above average fielding.

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    That's the gist of it right there. 

     

     

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