Relax Revisited.... Care for a review of the season lost in April?

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    [QUOTE]Yet the troll hunters, the Pikettes, and others who identified the concern trolls, closet Yankee fans, and fair-weather fans were deemed by J-Bay, Harness, NHSteven, Nagey, MikeyintheBronx, and others of thier fraternity - to be detrimental and a blight to the forum. In their narrow view it is wrong to identify the trolls since they believe that they are targets and thus a unifying necessity. This is the mantra ohf Harness, Burrito, Softlaw, and others who support diversity (trolls) as being vital to the forum.
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    The sanitarium must be full today...
     
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    Relax and enjoy only being 4 games under 500 whilst being able to maintain the delusion we can somehow pull ourselves out of the basement.
    andrewmitch

    Thanks for maintaining the delusion, SY.   You deserve a special medal of honor for starting the thread of the year and holding fickle and shortsighted posters accountable.  Outstanding work!

     
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    [QUOTE]Let me see if I have this right.  The Sox lose 6 straight to start the season, then go to 2-10 while the Yankees are winning games right and left.  And it was at that exact point that true Sox fans were supposed to be saying, "not a problem.  The Sox are right where they need to be.  In just three months they will be a shoo-in for a play-off slot."  Crawford not hitting?  Not a problem.  Ortiz off to a slow start?  Only to be expected.  Lackey and Matsuzaka looking less than stellar?  Things could not be better. While I will agree that April is way too early to give up, I am stunned that we now have a thread about how all true Sox fans should have been in a good frame of mind while the Sox were digging themselves a hole.   Since John Henry and company took over, these have been the absolutely best years to be a Sox fan.  But I have to admit that before this golden era I spent over 50 years (1949 to 2002) rooting for a team that would always find a way to extend the can't win a WS streak, which lasted 86 years.  I even had an uncle who lived to be 90 but never saw the Sox win a WS.  So, please, spare me the self congratulations.  Moreover,I don't recall anyone back in April saying that getting to the playoffs was going to be a piece of cake this year.  Anyone with any sense had to be worried.  Not defeatist.  Just worried. 
    Posted by maxbialystock[/QUOTE]

    Ahhhhh Max. UR a solid contributor to this board, but you often can't see beyond the car in front of you. You get too caught up in the game-to-game scenario.

    First off, Thread author probably has the smallest ego on this forum. He is showing posters a reflection of their own lack of faith. He isn't doing it for self promotion.
    If that's what you think, you don't know S.Y.

    Yes, it was a rough start. But your allusion to the successful Henry group and team player personnel should have allowed for some vision on your part. Any team with new parts searches for their common intensity level. Your long tenure as a fan is for not if you can't recognize the obvious.
     
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    [QUOTE]Let me see if I have this right.  The Sox lose 6 straight to start the season, then go to 2-10 while the Yankees are winning games right and left.  And it was at that exact point that true Sox fans were supposed to be saying, "not a problem.  The Sox are right where they need to be.  In just three months they will be a shoo-in for a play-off slot."  Crawford not hitting?  Not a problem.  Ortiz off to a slow start?  Only to be expected.  Lackey and Matsuzaka looking less than stellar?  Things could not be better. While I will agree that April is way too early to give up, I am stunned that we now have a thread about how all true Sox fans should have been in a good frame of mindwhile the Sox were digging themselves a hole.   Since John Henry and company took over, these have been the absolutely best years to be a Sox fan.  But I have to admit that before this golden era I spent over 50 years (1949 to 2002) rooting for a team that would always find a way to extend the can't win a WS streak, which lasted 86 years.  I even had an uncle who lived to be 90 but never saw the Sox win a WS.  So, please, spare me the self congratulations.  Moreover,I don't recall anyone back in April saying that getting to the playoffs was going to be a piece of cake this year.  Anyone with any sense had to be worried.  Not defeatist.  Just worried. 
    Posted by maxbialystock[/QUOTE]

    This is not an assault on fans' frames of mind.  It's about holding people accountable for their reckless words. 
     
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    Max, just don't wear you cynicism, skepticism, and lack of faith as a badge of honor or an identity. It gets sickening, repetitive, pedictable, and boring. We oldtimers need to forget the bad years, agony of defeat, and despair. Don't dwell on it. Be optimistic and hopeful and enjoy yourself.
     
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    this coming from Captain Fun who lives on Sunny Lane in La La State.
     
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    Yeah Pike. Your beacon of light has dead batteries and low brain cells
    when it comes to how you patronize this board.
     
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    [QUOTE]Let me see if I have this right.  The Sox lose 6 straight to start the season, then go to 2-10 while the Yankees are winning games right and left.  And it was at that exact point that true Sox fans were supposed to be saying, "not a problem.  The Sox are right where they need to be.  In just three months they will be a shoo-in for a play-off slot."  Crawford not hitting?  Not a problem.  Ortiz off to a slow start?  Only to be expected.  Lackey and Matsuzaka looking less than stellar?  Things could not be better. While I will agree that April is way too early to give up, I am stunned that we now have a thread about how all true Sox fans should have been in a good frame of mind while the Sox were digging themselves a hole.   Since John Henry and company took over, these have been the absolutely best years to be a Sox fan.  But I have to admit that before this golden era I spent over 50 years (1949 to 2002) rooting for a team that would always find a way to extend the can't win a WS streak, which lasted 86 years.  I even had an uncle who lived to be 90 but never saw the Sox win a WS.  So, please, spare me the self congratulations.  Moreover,I don't recall anyone back in April saying that getting to the playoffs was going to be a piece of cake this year.  Anyone with any sense had to be worried.  Not defeatist.  Just worried. 
    Posted by maxbialystock[/QUOTE]

    Yes, Max.  that is what you should have done.  Had you done so, you would be rewarded now with the kind of play many of us knew was coming.
     
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    [QUOTE]Let me see if I have this right.  The Sox lose 6 straight to start the season, then go to 2-10 while the Yankees are winning games right and left.  And it was at that exact point that true Sox fans were supposed to be saying, "not a problem.  The Sox are right where they need to be.  In just three months they will be a shoo-in for a play-off slot."  Crawford not hitting?  Not a problem.  Ortiz off to a slow start?  Only to be expected.  Lackey and Matsuzaka looking less than stellar?  Things could not be better. While I will agree that April is way too early to give up, I am stunned that we now have a thread about how all true Sox fans should have been in a good frame of mind while the Sox were digging themselves a hole.   Since John Henry and company took over, these have been the absolutely best years to be a Sox fan.  But I have to admit that before this golden era I spent over 50 years (1949 to 2002) rooting for a team that would always find a way to extend the can't win a WS streak, which lasted 86 years.  I even had an uncle who lived to be 90 but never saw the Sox win a WS.  So, please, spare me the self congratulations.  Moreover,I don't recall anyone back in April saying that getting to the playoffs was going to be a piece of cake this year.  Anyone with any sense had to be worried.  Not defeatist.  Just worried. 
    Posted by maxbialystock[/QUOTE]

    This is the point. There were plenty of defeatist posts like andrewbitch's, and you can't say his was just a worried post. The board was filled posts on how the season was lost and it was time to panic and how the Sox had no chance and .. I could go on.

    Those weren't worried posts, they were defeatist posts and posters like that deserve to be mocked.

    Of course no one was saying it was going to be a piece of cake. Anyone who thought it would be a piece of cake before teh season or if the Sox began 10-2 deserve to be mocked too.

    It's a long season. Certainly there were things to be concerned about but look at all the "Salty experiment is a failure" posts there were. The overreaction after 12-15 games was pathetic and those posters deserve to be mocked all the time.


     
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    I just don't climb to the mountain top in April to voice my concerns. I am like Breidy, Katz, and Harness - I suffer in silence and sulk  without looking for scapegoats and pouting in public. Of course, everyone is different and some need to jump up onto a podium in the Boston Commons at noon hour and bi-tch about everything Red Sox. Real fans would never think of doing that but then again everyone "roots" differently. If everyone was a reserved , loyal fan then this forum would peter out. The forum needs the crybabies, chronic skeptics and cynics, pessimists, and trolls. Long live the imperfect forum. What else would Harness and Burrito do with themselves all night long until breakfast.
     
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    What would you do all day long if someone stole your cracker-jack marshal badge?
     
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    Watch youtube and old movies and claim that Johnny Cash and Amy Winehouse are both talented - like you do. I would spread myself so thin that I would be transparent - like you.
     
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    I doubt he would make up false accusations, however. My cell mate's still smarting over that one.
     
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    Very good. At least you addressed me this time - instead of the masses, who now tune you out. There may be a glimmer of hope yet.

    Yes, I think Johnny Cash had talent, as does his daughter, Rosanne.
    And I do prefer old movies over the shock treatment of today's porn and violence.
    If being diverse translates into 'spreading myself too thin', I'll take that over sounding like a broken record that posters now ignore.
     
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    [QUOTE]Great post Yaz!! Its good to see all those posts again and who the realists really are..Those that believed in this team...Its true, it was hard to watch. But if you really did look at it realistically, There should have been no doubt that this team was way too talented to keep playing that poorly..Its time for some to "man up" and eat some crow..Good job!!
    Posted by southpaw777[/QUOTE]

    Every team has a slump; it's some fans that are fickle; heck, even during this 15-3 run (or is it better than that?), you saw the whiners come out after losses.
     
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    [QUOTE]Very good. At least you addressed me this time - instead of the masses, who now tune you out. There may be a glimmer of hope yet. Yes, I think Johnny Cash had talent, as does his daughter, Rosanne. And I do prefer old movies over the shock treatment of today's porn and violence. If being diverse translates into 'spreading myself too thin', I'll take that over sounding like a broken record that posters now ignore.
    Posted by harness[/QUOTE]

    Even though I'm not much of a country music fan, knocking Johnny Cash is fightin' words.  I'll also vouch for Amy Winehouse and load up another nice piece of work for those open to the idea that talent comes from all generations.

    http://youtu.be/4L9-AvjsB6g
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Relax Revisited.... Care for a review of the season lost in April? : Even though I'm not much of a country music fan, knocking Johnny Cash is fightin' words.  I'll also vouch for Amy Winehouse and load up another nice piece of work for those open to the idea that talent comes from all generations. http://youtu.be/4L9-AvjsB6g
    Posted by Sheriff-Rojas[/QUOTE]


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnMMWledtZ8
     
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    Um....I think I called that King Felix game.  Not all of us believed what was being presented. :)

    Great thread, Yaz.
     
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    [QUOTE]The great thing about team sports is there are no perfect teams. All teams have weak spots. There's always room for improvement and that leaves teams open for criticism. I live on the Patriots board and hear the same things there. It's always what have you done lately. The Sox and Pats are similar in that they have had recent success after years of disappointment and heartache. Suddenly, success and championships are now expected! Failure is not an option! So when the Patriots lose a game or two or the Red Sox go on a losing streak, the critics come out. And they are vocal. I'm like you Yaz. I'm just relaxed and enjoying the ride.
    Posted by digger0862[/QUOTE]

    Good to meet you, Digger.

      Despite last night's loss, we'll enjoy this thing together.  :o)


      I was gonna say welcome aboard, but you're already there!!!  Just on a different deck of the ship, I guess. 


      Digger is the name of one of my new kittens ... he and his brother are a blast!


      Football is on again, too ... 

      As the Germans say, "Besser und besser!"

       bettah n bettah ....
     
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    [QUOTE]Relax and enjoy only being 4 games under 500 whilst being able to maintain the delusion we can somehow pull ourselves out of the basement. andrewmitch Thanks for maintaining the delusion, SY.   You deserve a special medal of honor for starting the thread of the year and holding fickle and shortsighted posters accountable.  Outstanding work!
    Posted by Sheriff-Rojas[/QUOTE]

    I am but a deputy, boss.  :o)

    Delusion is my specialty, though.

    I see dead people walking ....uh dead seasons playing .... as if they are alive!
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Relax Revisited.... Care for a review of the season lost in April? : Every team has a slump; it's some fans that are fickle; heck, even during this 15-3 run (or is it better than that?), you saw the whiners come out after losses.
    Posted by nhsteven[/QUOTE]

    Steve,

       That is the reason for the timing of the re-post.  I figured on doing it in some future date, but all of a sudden we were getting negativity from lots of sources other that our infamous child poster.  It was like, well, heck yeah, so that now we are where we are supposed to be, we can start unloading on every little mistake ...or hammering players ... which never sits well with me.

        Pinstripezac made it clear for a long time that while he was a Yanqui fan, he was also a baseball fan.  That is why we can get along so well.  It's only the obnoxious ones that are .... strangley - obnoxious.

     
     
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    OMG i could not stay up last night/this morning to watch the game. Im in SHOCK, we lost a game, we are now in a major SLUMP. I think its time we make some changes, this team is toast and going nowhere, our lead is now down to 2 games over the Yanks, I know we are doomed, how could we lose to KC? My summer has been ruined. I digress! 
     
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    [QUOTE]OMG i could not stay up last night/this morning to watch the game. Im in SHOCK, we lost a game, we are now in a major SLUMP. I think its time we make some changes, this team is toast and going nowhere, our lead is now down to 2 games over the Yanks, I know we are doomed, how could we lose to KC? My summer has been ruined. I digress! 
    Posted by promise4you[/QUOTE]

    You blamed no one and did not apply a disparaging nickname to a selected  scapegoat.  Sorry promise.  This does not qualify as an authentic bash post worthy of public ridicule. 
     
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    *  No one gave up, we still watched the games.

    *  IMO if you weren't frustrated in April then you aren't a real fan.  Just my opinion of course and I don't want to say who is a real fan or not.

    *  I said many times they still had a chance but that they gave away the division.  They haven't won the division yet.  I still think they weren't prepared on Opening Day.

    *  For those who claim to take the "high road" in July by looking back on comments in April, you would be well-adivsed to wait until October or November to do that. 

    *  No proven lefty in the pen hasn't been too problematic yet.  The playoffs is really when this could be a problem.  Right now, looks like their pen is OK.  But we won't know until the end of the season.  If you can spend 170 million but don't spend $ on a bona fide lefty, it seems like a foolish way to allocate your budget.

    *  Kinda sad to spend that kind of time to go back to old posts to the extent you are now to try and beat up on other posters for speaking their minds.  Especially since most posters talk about the game and players.  It's the few that think it is their "role" to try and bash other posters because they don't like what they write - so sad. 
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Relax Revisited.... Care for a review of the season lost in April? : You blamed no one and did not apply a disparaging nickname to a selected  scapegoat.  Sorry promise.  This does not qualify as an authentic bash post worthy of public ridicule. 
    Posted by Sheriff-Rojas[/QUOTE]

    Darn, I failed again to trash my beloved players & team! Surprised
     

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