Report: Buchholz has stress fracture, out for season

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    Report: Buchholz has stress fracture, out for season

    CHICAGO--Red Sox pitcher Clay Buchholz has a stress fracture in his lower back and will most likely miss the rest of the season, according to a report in Comcast Sports New England.

    The injury was discovered in an MRI administered to Buchholz last week after he experienced discomfort in a bullpen session lasr Monday, according to the report. Buchholz's next throwing session, which was to have been last Wednesday, was cancelled, and an appointment was made for the pitcher to see Dr. Robert Watkins, a back specialist in Los Angeles.

    The club did not reveal that Buchholz had an MRI last week, even though it often does release such information, and as recently as last Friday, manager Terry Francona was referring to the injury as a "muscle strain." Francona, asked last Thursday if the club was concerned that Buchholz would not be able to pitch for the rest of the season, said: "Not right now.

    "It's not the simplest muscle strain we've ever seen,'' he said.

    After trading for another starting pitcher, left-hander Erik Bedard, minutes before the trading deadline, Epstein hinted that the club did not expect good news after Buchholz visits Watkins on Monday.

    "Clearly, we have some concern for Clay," Boston Red Sox GM Theo Epstein said Sunday night. "It's been a couple of months now, which is longer than we expected it to be. We're still awaiting some more feedback and another opinion. I think we have a feel for what might be going on, but Clay is seeing another expert [Robert Watkins] to get his opinion and then we're all going to put our heads together this week.

    "I'll refrain from answering in too much detail until we have a chance to talk to Clay and we have a chance to talk things through. … We think we're in the process of getting to the bottom of it, and we're all going to put our heads together early this week and talk about it with Clay before we discuss it publicly."
     
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    by Sean McAdam/CSNNE
    CHICAGO -- With the benefit of hindsight, it's easy to now understand why the Red Sox spent so much time and energy on finding a starting pitcher at the trade deadline.

    Clay Buchholz, who's been out six weeks, is suffering from a stress fracture in his lower back, according to a person with knowledge of the situation.

    It's unlikely that Buchholz will pitch again this season, though a return in the postseason has not entirely been ruled out yet.

    Buchholz, whose last start was June 15, is scheduled to see noted back specialist Dr. Thomas Watkins in Los Angeles Monday. But Watkins will likely only confirm what has already been diagnosed.

    Buchholz threw off the mound last Monday and told reporters afterward that he felt the session was a step in the right direction, adding that he felt about 80 percent recovered.

    "I think it's going to feel better," Buchholz said at the time. "There was still a little soreness coming off after I threw. I sat down for about 10 minutes, did a couple stretches and it felt better. This is, I think, the biggest step in the right direction so far in this process."

    However, the very next day, Buchholz experienced some additional soreness and underwent an MRI, which revealed the stress fracture. Previously, the official diagnosis had been that Buchholz was battling stress inflammation of the back.

    Such injuries are rare for pitchers. They are more common in position players. New York Mets third baseman David Wright was diagnosed with a stress fracture in mid-May and only recently returned, having missed about two months.

    No surgery is required for a stress fracture, which is usually healed with rest and treatment.

    It's possible Buchholz could be physically ready sometime in September to resume pitching. By then, however, the seasons for every minor-league affiliate would be complete and there would be no venue for which Buchholz could rehab.

    Without the benefit of live game conditions to build arm strength, it would be difficult for Buchholz to return late in the season. It's conceivable, the source said, that Buchholz could pitch in relief in the postseason, but that would be asking a great deal for someone who will not have faced major league hitters since mid-June.
         
    General manager Theo Epstein, in a conference call with reporters Sunday to discuss the team's acquisition of Erik Bedard, said, "Clearly, we have some concern for Clay. It's been almost a couple of months now, which is longer than we expected it to be. We're still awaiting some more feedback and another opinion. I think we have a feel for what may be going on, but Clay is seeing another expert to get his opinion, then we're all going to put our heads together this week.

    "I'll refrain from answering in too much detail until we have a chance to talk to Clay and we all have a chance to talk things through. Clearly any time a pitcher of his caliber isn't on the mound for a while and throws a side as he did on Monday but then can't necessarily back it up with another side and getting out there on a rehab assignment, there's some concern."
         
    The Sox may have held off on making any announcement on Buchholz's condition out of fear that the news would cost them leverage in trade talks with opposing teams leading up to Sunday's deadline.

     
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    Re: Report: Buchholz has stress fracture, out for season

    Just as I stated earlier last week. The sawx knew he was done for the season but were not going to announce it before the deadline for fear that teams would be able to hold them over a barrel in any trade discussions for a starter.
     
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    Just as I stated earlier last week. The sawx knew he was done for the season but were not going to announce it before the deadline for fear that teams would be able to hold them over a barrel in any trade discussions for a starter.
    Posted by -The--Babe---------


    Well, I'm glad the Sox understand the value of OPSEC, but I'm not sure that was the driving force in this instance.  For evidence I cite Bedard, who is hardly equivalent to Buchholz.  The simple fact is that everyone knew/knows Buchholz was hurting and not likely to return soon.  Everyone also knew the Sox 3, 4, and 5 starters are Lackey, Wakefield, and Miller, so clearly Bedard was insurance for those three more than a replacement for Buchholz. 
     
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    In Response to Re: Report: Buchholz has stress fracture, out for season : Well, I'm glad the Sox understand the value of OPSEC, but I'm not sure that was the driving force in this instance.  For evidence I cite Bedard, who is hardly equivalent to Buchholz.  The simple fact is that everyone knew/knows Buchholz was hurting and not likely to return soon.  Everyone also knew the Sox 3, 4, and 5 starters are Lackey, Wakefield, and Miller, so clearly Bedard was insurance for those three more than a replacement for Buchholz. 
    Posted by maxbialystock

    Ummmm....last I checked buch was their number 3 starter, so basically bedard is his replacement.

     
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    Re: Report: Buchholz has stress fracture, out for season

    Bedard no matter how you slice it is the current replacement for Clay.
    Just wondering though is BB rubbing off on the RS in regards to all the secreacy surrounding many RS injuries? Just seems the RS are playing the same game BB does with the Pats in regards to injuries.
     
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    Just as I stated earlier last week. The sawx knew he was done for the season but were not going to announce it before the deadline for fear that teams would be able to hold them over a barrel in any trade discussions for a starter.
    Posted by -The--Babe---------


    Yeah, it looks like you were 100% correct.
     
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    Bedard no matter how you slice it is the current replacement for Clay. Just wondering though is BB rubbing off on the RS in regards to all the secreacy surrounding many RS injuries? Just seems the RS are playing the same game BB does with the Pats in regards to injuries.
    Posted by JimfromFlorida

    They weren't going to announce that buch was done for the season right before the trading deadline. Got nothing to do with bill belicheat.

     
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    Re: Report: Buchholz has stress fracture, out for season

    Bedard will vie for the #3 spot, he does not get that by default.  Currently, Lackey is the best candidate.  Saying Buck is out so the next guy brought in replaces him in the order makes no sense.   But either way Bedard needs to pitch better than Miller.  That is all we need.  We have done fine without Buck for quite awhile now, having the best offense makes this easier.  
     
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    Re: Report: Buchholz has stress fracture, out for season

    Read all about stress fracture of the lower back (aka; spondylolysis). According to this it's a 6 week recovery, and ususally occurs in adolescents.
    http://www.physioroom.com/injuries/back/lower_back_stress_fracture_full.php
     
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    Re: Report: Buchholz has stress fracture, out for season

    So when does everyone start calling him a  sissy and a lot of the things they called Ells last year.
     
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    So when does everyone start calling him a  sissy and a lot of the things they called Ells last year.
    Posted by wallyac


    That was Softlaw and his gang of ten last year. Most of us didn't fall for it. You can't take Softlaw seriously - he doesn't.
     
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    Re: Report: Buchholz has stress fracture, out for season

    We were all mislead as to the seriousness of Buchholz's back issues, and it is no surprise that the Sox played it like they did, with the July 31st deadline looming.  That is just smart poker play.  Don't know that Bill B deserves any credit for that, or would accept any.

    But Bedard is not, in my mind, Buchholz's replacement.  He is insurance that Aceves can stay performing the role in which he has benefitted the club the most, that of long relief.  And he (Bedard) is insurance that come playoff time, if Lackey, Miller and Wake are not fit for prime time, there is another starter to look to (hey, Bedard himself may not be looking like the best choice...we shall see).

    There is also the possibility that Buchholz's examination leads to the conclusion that there is no further damage that can be done by throwing.  That the stress fracture is healing and that he is cleared to throw later this month, as pain allows, and that he wil in fact be back in time for October baseball.
     
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    Re: Report: Buchholz has stress fracture, out for season

    The irony is that the recovery is exercise to strengthen the muscles of the lower back....I can think of no better exercise than pitching!
     
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    Re: Report: Buchholz has stress fracture, out for season

    I think it is definitely a possibility that he could return in October, if Bedard doesnt pan out
     
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    Re: Report: Buchholz has stress fracture, out for season

    Definitely golf is out.  And he and his newlywed may have to cool their jets and eliminate the missionary position from their repertoire.
     
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    Re: Report: Buchholz has stress fracture, out for season

    In Response to Re: Report: Buchholz has stress fracture, out for season:
    In Response to Re: Report: Buchholz has stress fracture, out for season : He probably shouldn't be lifting any laptops anytime soon.
    Posted by -The--Babe---------



    Judging by the 14 posts it appears you have been banned yet again recently.  Seriously you must not have much of a life.  This is a red sox forum.  You will always be nothing more than a loser and a troll.  Why not post on Yankee forums?   I guarantee you won't be missed.
     
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    In Response to Re: Report: Buchholz has stress fracture, out for season : Judging by the 14 posts it appears you have been banned yet again recently.  Seriously you must not have much of a life.  This is a red sox forum.  You will always be nothing more than a loser and a troll.  Why not post on Yankee forums?   I guarantee you won't be missed.

    Posted by william93063

    I'll let you know when your worthless opinion means anything to me.

     
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    Re: Report: Buchholz has stress fracture, out for season

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    Read all about stress fracture of the lower back (aka; spondylolysis). According to this it's a 6 week recovery, and ususally occurs in adolescents. http://www.physioroom.com/injuries/back/lower_back_stress_fracture_full.php
    Posted by Alibiike


    David Wright missed ten weeks with a lower back stress fracture, but lets hope 6 weeks.
     
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    Re: Report: Buchholz has stress fracture, out for season

    Damn.

    So all this time he's only had the one mri 5 weeks after the injury?  Three other specialists didn't come to this conclusion?
     
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    The irony is that the recovery is exercise to strengthen the muscles of the lower back....I can think of no better exercise than pitching!
    Posted by Alibiike


    Haha.  You always hold the old-school tough guy line Ike.  I appreciate that.  But, what I wouldn't appreciate is Clay pitching through the pain.  Yeah, he could do it ... and I could just see our August/September division race angst as we give him the ball every five and watch him get LIT UP because he can't finish his delivery, leaving meatballs up in the zone and making his beautiful 12-6 yacker a tasty BP toss.  Lots of fun (see Beckett 2010).
     
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    Re: Report: Buchholz has stress fracture, out for season

    I gotta give you credit Babe. you DID say last week that buch was done for the season. and it was a smart move by theo not to announce it until after the trade deadline. I'll be the last one on this board to say that you don't know your baseball Babe.
     
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    Re: Report: Buchholz has stress fracture, out for season

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    In Response to Re: Report: Buchholz has stress fracture, out for season : David Wright missed ten weeks with a lower back stress fracture, but lets hope 6 weeks.

    Posted by tomnev

    The way they treat it is 6 weeks of rest followed by physical therapy before he would even begin a throwing regimen. wright didn't have to build up arm strength like a pitcher would.

    He will not be back for the playoffs despite all the wishful thinking on these boards.

     
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    Re: Report: Buchholz has stress fracture, out for season

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    I gotta give you credit Babe. you DID say last week that buch was done for the season. and it was a smart move by theo not to announce it until after the trade deadline. I'll be the last one on this board to say that you don't know your baseball Babe.

    Posted by Hammah29r2

    Thanks hammah.

    How was your weekend?

     
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    Re: Report: Buchholz has stress fracture, out for season

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    I gotta give you credit Babe. you DID say last week that buch was done for the season. and it was a smart move by theo not to announce it until after the trade deadline. I'll be the last one on this board to say that you don't know your baseball Babe.
    Posted by Hammah29r2


    Please don't humor him.  Chances were 50/50 that Buck was done.  And waiting to announce the injury is about as obvious as the fact that ARod is a cheater.  I'll assume you were just trying to make the kid feel good about himself in case he doesn't get to kick a few puppies on his way home from his job at the 7-Eleven.....
     
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