RF should be Reddicks to lose

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    RF should be Reddicks to lose

    Last year we were talking about Kalish but unfortunately he was injured.  All that really matters now is fielding players who want to play, can play and are helping our cause.  I have no doubt Theo has Drew, Cam, McD and even Lackey on radar.   

    When you invest a great deal of money into players that don't produce, your hope is they recover so your investment doesn't look as bad.  Theo certainly has a few tough decisions to make.  I'm not saying Reddick will be our "long term" solution in RF when Carl returns but he is hitting better than any other option so play him.
     
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    The only thing Lackey is in danger of is going on the DL until he's needed.  When Crawford comes back, I think McDonald will be the odd man out since he would be easiest to keep with the organization.  Personally I'd like to see Cam go though.

    Reddick should continue starting every game against RHP's while gradually getting more and more starts against average LHP's.  If he keeps impressing throughout the season, I think the job would be his to lose going into 2012.  Really a bad time for Kalish to have gotten hurt, it may have cost him his future in Boston.
     
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    Put Reddick in CF, and trade Ellsbury with a few other parts, for Kemp.

     
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    RedSox are now 3-6 without CRAWBURY in tact.
    They weren't much better in April, when CRAWBURY slumped.
    Took off in May/first half of June when CRAWBURY clicked.

    As goes CRAWBURY, so go the RedSox.
     
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    While Crawbustbury has nothing to do with Red Sox winning, Crawbustbury isn't going well.
     
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    While Crawbustbury has nothing to do with Red Sox winning,Crawbustbury isn't going well.
    Posted by redsoxcorpseman


    CRAWBURY slumps in April/split in mid-June: Team goes 14-21.
    CRAWBURY clicks in May and 1/2 of June: Team goes 31-13.

    Oh yeah, no connection to them winning.
    Keep it coming...
     
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    What my imitator means to say is that Ellsbury has everything to do with our losing. Send him packing, before his style of play becomes contagious.
     
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    If this were true, Private Harness, Crawburry would be the desire of every GM in baseball. Instead, the Red Sox would have to pay most of the freight and two bus tickets to get them to the next closed shop.
     
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    Great game for Reddick. I think he was 3-3? This team really needs hitting right now, and he seems to be doing just that. I'd find a way to keep him in the game. I don't care about the error, as it seemed more like he was being pretty nonchalant about catching the ball. I doubt that happens again.
     
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    If this were true, Private Harness,Crawburry would

    be the desire of every GM in baseball
    . Instead, the Red Sox would have to pay most of the freight and two bus tickets to get them to the next closed shop.
    Posted by redsoxcorpseman


    Of course it is. That's why the Angels went 18 mil over 7 years. Nobody else could go that high except NY & Boston, and that position was already filled in NY. Otherwise, he'd be in pinstripes.

    You think Boston went 7 years/20 mil a year by choice?
     
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    Of course it is. That's why the Angels went 18 mil over 7 years. Nobody else could go that high except NY & Boston, and that position was already filled in NY. Otherwise, he'd be in pinstripes.

    You think Boston went 7 years/20 mil a year by choice?

    Of course it was. It's not now! Only those who have some clue about value and the market avoid the mania of FA phonies like Crawford and Werth. Right now, there isn't a GM in baseball who would touch Crawford without the Red Sox paying all of the last 3 or 4 years and a substantial part of the other years.

    You are talking about then, not now.

    Yes, Harness, I think the Red Sox went 7 years and 20M a year without a gun being held to their heads. There was no undue influence or coercion. It was a choice, and an embarrassingly foolish choice. And what the Red Sox do as a team doesn't validate it, any more than Scutaro, Renteria, Lugo or any other FA career high contract year value bust are validated.

    Harness, get a clue. Notice how AGon wasn't in San Diego on opening day, like you guaranteed.
     
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    In Response to Re: RF should be Reddicks to lose : Of course it is. That's why the Angels went 18 mil over 7 years. Nobody else could go that high except NY & Boston, and that position was already filled in NY. Otherwise, he'd be in pinstripes. You think Boston went 7 years/20 mil a year by choice?
    Posted by harness

    Yes, the Boy Wonder had the choice to say no and go with a cheaper option. He should have traded Bellsbury and two B prospects for Matt Kemp during the offseason, but his man crush on the OF is disturbing. Like yours with CERA.
     
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    They went 7 years/20 mil because that was the market price. They felt not signing him would have been a greater risk.

    The CRAWBURY tandem is the dream of any GM. Wake up! Again, the RedSox are 14-21 when CRAWBURY slumps/is split up.

    They are 31-13 when they click. The correlation is undeniable...except for the deaf & dumb stereo stooges.
     
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    They went 7 years/20 mil because that was the market price

    And when you take out a mortgage for a house based upon market price, the value foreclosure was your choice and yours alone.

    What the market price was didn't make it compulsory.

    I doubt a guy with a .275 OBP is the dream of anyone, except maybe your failure to admit how foolish you were for recommending this contract obligation.

    There is no correlation. "When they click" is meaningless drivel. The fact is that Ortiz cooling off for the two days and then sitting is what ended the current run.

    If 2 of Youk and Ortiz and Gonzo slug well in any game, the Red Sox will win at a 100 plus wins a season percentage.

    If Bellsbury gets on base, and Crawford gets on base in the 6 or 7 spot, it's a car going no where.

    Time will prove that the bean counters who broke ground on Ichiro and the other scatback contracts and placed them near the superstar sluggers will be proven to be on the wrong side of offensive history.
     
    The 2009 Yankees and strongest Red Sox offensive teams did not have Crawbust.

    You've sold Crawbust since it was announced. You now are embarrassingly trying to defend it. As we approach July 1 with Crawbust on the DL, he and his .275 OBP had noting to do with where the team was a week ago.
     
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    The only thing Lackey is in danger of is going on the DL until he's needed.  When Crawford comes back, I think McDonald will be the odd man out since he would be easiest to keep with the organization.  Personally I'd like to see Cam go though. Reddick should continue starting every game against RHP's while gradually getting more and more starts against average LHP's.  If he keeps impressing throughout the season, I think the job would be his to lose going into 2012.  Really a bad time for Kalish to have gotten hurt, it may have cost him his future in Boston.
    Posted by JB-3


    The poor offense from our RF's is only one of our issues.
     

    #1
    Our pen is still sketchy
    #2 Ells is going through a slump, leadoff is an importand part of our lineup
    #3 We need Crawford back despite how some fans feel about his stats
    #4 We need Clay back ASAP
    #5 We need a solid SS, Lowrie, Scutaro and possibly even Iglesias may not be the answer if he can't hit.
    #6 RF, as I said should be Reddicks to lose, or trade for one that doesn't need to be platooned if Josh stops hitting lefties.  We also don't know how Kalish will rebound.
    #7 Most important, we need to get of this trip through the NL



     
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    I think Reddick has just increased his trade value,  as much as I hate to say this but I think we should sell him now.  Packaged with another player I'm sure we can get an upgrade In RF that is RH. 
     
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    I think Reddick has just increased his trade value,  as much as I hate to say this but I think we should sell him now.  Packaged with another player I'm sure we can get an upgrade In RF that is RH. 
    Posted by ctredsoxfanhugh


    I tend to agree, this whole platoon thing is getting old for me.  We need a guy that can hold his own against anyone not just a RH specialist, especially if we trade Reddick and only have Drew left to rely on against righties.
     
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    In Response to Re: RF should be Reddicks to lose : I tend to agree, this whole platoon thing is getting old for me.  We need a guy that can hold his own against anyone not just a RH specialist, especially if we trade Reddick and only have Drew left to rely on against righties.
    Posted by craze4sox


    Not only should RF belong to Reddick, I really don't see the value in keeping Drew around anymore. He's not good as an everyday player. He can't pinch run. He rarely would be useful as a pinch hitter. He no longer can/has to play any other OF position. I, honest to God, would rather have Bill Hall sitting on the bench that wasting a roster spot on Drew. I saw that well aware that Hall was cut by woeful Houston.

    But, keeping it to the original question and not again railing against Drew...now is the time. He's hitting well, there's a good opportunity here to see what they have going forward with Reddick. I don't see how going forward the Sox really want an all lefty OF, but they fashioned it that way this year, so maybe they are OK with that, I tend to think either Reddick's value gets high enough that they deal him, or Ellsbury is dealt sometime in the next 10 months or so.

    I've been on the Kemp nadwagon since early last year. He's a right handed stud I would give up a LOT for. Ellsbury + Doubront? Another high ranking P? I was ready to do Kelly/Ells/Anderson last year. I'd do something similar now.
     
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    In Response to Re: RF should be Reddicks to lose : Not only should RF belong to Reddick, I really don't see the value in keeping Drew around anymore. He's not good as an everyday player. He can't pinch run. He rarely would be useful as a pinch hitter. He no longer can/has to play any other OF position. I, honest to God, would rather have Bill Hall sitting on the bench that wasting a roster spot on Drew. I saw that well aware that Hall was cut by woeful Houston. But, keeping it to the original question and not again railing against Drew...now is the time. He's hitting well, there's a good opportunity here to see what they have going forward with Reddick. I don't see how going forward the Sox really want an all lefty OF, but they fashioned it that way this year, so maybe they are OK with that, I tend to think either Reddick's value gets high enough that they deal him, or Ellsbury is dealt sometime in the next 10 months or so. I've been on the Kemp nadwagon since early last year. He's a right handed stud I would give up a LOT for. Ellsbury + Doubront? Another high ranking P? I was ready to do Kelly/Ells/Anderson last year. I'd do something similar now.
    Posted by ma6dragon9


    ma6, I believe Theo is trying his best to land a RF who can play every day.  You may be spot on with Reddick or Ells being traded.  I know the Dodgers keep saying Kemp is untouchable but I doubt they want his salary in the next few years if they could land a young replacement and cheap help in other areas.

    I also don't believe Theo wants three LHH OF's in the starting lineup.
     
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    Long term, the Red Sox NEED a right-handed hitting right fielder. Between Drew and Reddick, they'll do well enough to get the job done from the left side. But McDonald and Cameron have been colossal failures; wouldn't surprise anyone to see 'em both gone within the month. Even a lesser trade for Ryan Spilbourghs or someone similar would be considerably better than what they have.
    Love the idea of trading for Matt Kemp.
    Still, I'd be surprised if Drew didn't get something going before the season is out. His stats are lousy for certain but McDonald and Cameron's numbers are simply ridiculous. I have confidence in Reddick as well but I'd stick with Drew.

    BTW, I'm a Astros season ticket holder. Bill Hall was beyond horrific in his time here in Houston. On a  team with zero talent, he somehow still managed to get waived within two months.


     
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    I like Ellsbury.....but that said....I also think value wise he may be at his premium....having a good year....healthy.....maybe making the All Star team....so if packaging him could get you a Matt Kemp....you have the flexibility to play Redick or Crawford in Center...it seem like a good move. We wouldt really have a leadoff hitter, but I think that could work it self out.
     
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                           ctsoxfanhugh, ........Why would we sell our best performing OF'er right now who is 24 yrs.old and making the major league minimum salary or close to it. He's the elephant in the outfield for RS management. He's forcing them to take a hard look now when they hoped they wouldn't have to. The RF production collapse has caused this to occur. He's also the fall back guy in case they can't or won't sign JE next year. At this point in time, his future is very bright in Boston.                                                                                    
     
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    Reddick  yes   ride  the hot hand..
     
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    Crawford will wind up being THE worst FA signing in Red Sox history.
    Why this guy is being paid 20 million a year is nuts. He's getting Manny money, and will never come close to that type of production.
    Seven years! Wow! They're stuck with Crawford for that long.
    This is the same management that claimed they couldn't afford Matt Holiday, who certainly would have been a better fit here.
    The nonsense that he's still adjusting to Boston is a crock.
    VMart came from Cleveland and JBay came from Pittsburgh, and both were starts from day one. Crawford was in a World Series. He shouldn'tr have Boston as an excuse.
    As for Reddick, how many times has he come up and started hot, only to fade as the pitcher catch up to him?
    He's not the long term answer. He hasn't even hit at AAA.
     
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    In Response to Re: RF should be Reddicks to lose : ma6, I believe Theo is trying his best to land a RF who can play every day.  You may be spot on with Reddick or Ells being traded.  I know the Dodgers keep saying Kemp is untouchable but I doubt they want his salary in the next few years if they could land a young replacement and cheap help in other areas. I also don't believe Theo wants three LHH OF's in the starting lineup.
    Posted by craze4sox
    There is what Frank McCourt wants (cheap enough to hold on to a team everyone but Frank knows he has lost) and what the baseball operations people want to see. MLB took control of those offices even while Frank stills legal owns the team specfically to ensure that baseball operations concerns were addressed and the team was not subject to short sighted fire sale.

    Kemp and Either are there middle of the order identity. Look for the Dodgers to trade out aging veteran pieces to get their salary relief IMO.

    As for Reddick, does it dawn on anybody that Francona is bringing a guy who was hitting .234 in AAA along with caution? While some may disagree with that tact, Terry actually has a pretty decent track record with the RS.

    The RS have the misfortune of having Crawford out at least until after the Houston series. That has allowed him time to give PT to multiple OFers and sort through just what he has. If reports are true, they are about to make a roster move with Cameron. All part of a sorting out process that required PT to determine what is up. It takes some actual data after all to make a team willing to eat a $7M or $14M deal. It is after all in their world a business where they are working with their money.
     
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