Re: Right handed Power Hitter?
posted at 1/3/2012 4:38 PM EST
In Response to Re: Right handed Power Hitter?
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Right handed Power Hitter? : Not sure we can say NEVER on this one Moon. The organization is already different under Cherringtons helm than Theo's. Theo certainly put too much a premium on the numbers. But, Ben C. set out his own methodology, while still giving much weight to the geek stats, as setting a premium on character/make-up and the human intangibles. And i don't think this is just lip service. Making the first priority to re-up Scutaro, then signing Punto, Melancon and Bailey seems, to me, evidence that he means what he says. these guys are gamers, dirt dogs.
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Dan D signed Manny for his numbers and not his attitude. I don't think we win '04 or '07 without his lethal RH'd bat in our line-up. He also made Papi a better producer.
Theo signed many players based mostly on numbers; I'll grant you that, but we did win 2 rings, and he did sign some "attitude guys (Millar, Roberts, Reese, Mueller...) so I'm not sure we can blast his methodology. Some of his choices were bad. I'm not sure anyone can justify paying Crawford or lackey that kind of money based on their prior "numbers". paying CC $20M+ for about an .850 career OPS was not based on "numbers". I think Theo thought his attitude and "intangibles" made him worth it.
Signing and trading for these players worked:
Are you so sure Ben signed and traded for these guys based on attitude?
Scutaro had very good offensive numbers for a SS last year and would have cost $1.5M to let walk anyways. He really only paid a $4.5M differential to keep him.
Ben also decided to offer Papi arb... is Papi a "dirt dog"? No. He offered Papi arb to get 2 picks or to get a DH that is not easily replacable.
What's the evidence that Shoppach, Bailey & Melncon are "dirt dogs"? I'm not saying they aren't. I just have not heard anything that makes me think they are or aren't.