Rios clamed off waivers

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    Rios clamed off waivers

    Batting 315 against lefties, I hope it's us.

    http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/white-sox-alex-rios-claimed-off-waivers-080813

     
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    Re: Rios clamed off waivers

    MLBtraderumors is reporting that the rangers have claimed Alex Rios..

     

     

     http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2013/08/unknown-team-claims-alex-rios-on-waivers.html

     

     

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    Hanging by a thread

    He'd give anything for this to just go away

    This grip is only so strong

     

    I try to hold on tightly

    But it's all slipping through my fingers

    In a fleeting moment 

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    Re: Rios clamed off waivers

    In response to xXR3S1NXx's comment:

    MLBtraderumors is reporting that the rangers have claimed Alex Rios..

     

     

     http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2013/08/unknown-team-claims-alex-rios-on-waivers.html

     

     

    At the end of your rope                                                                                                     

    Hanging by a thread

    He'd give anything for this to just go away

    This grip is only so strong

     

    I try to hold on tightly

    But it's all slipping through my fingers

    In a fleeting moment 

    Aspirations bled dry

    Eyes that once beamed with hope now only stare in remorse.

     

    -Times of grace



    That sucks

     
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    Re: Rios clamed off waivers

    $13M per year.

     
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    Re: Rios clamed off waivers

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    In response to xXR3S1NXx's comment:

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    MLBtraderumors is reporting that the rangers have claimed Alex Rios..

     

     

     http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2013/08/unknown-team-claims-alex-rios-on-waivers.html

     

     

    At the end of your rope                                                                                                     

    Hanging by a thread

    He'd give anything for this to just go away

    This grip is only so strong

     

    I try to hold on tightly

    But it's all slipping through my fingers

    In a fleeting moment 

    Aspirations bled dry

    Eyes that once beamed with hope now only stare in remorse.

     

    -Times of grace

     



    That sucks

     

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    Would have been worse if we got Rios. Our outfield has been producing why would you trade that for Alex Rios?

     
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    While we have serious issues vs LHPs, our OF is not our weakest area on that spli. Victorino and Gomes have been tremendous vs lefties from 2010-2013 and very good over their career. They maybe struggling a little bit this year, but I don't see Rios as a big upgrade at the plate vs LHPs over those two. Nava has better splits vs RHPs, so unless you want to bench Victorino for 2/3rds of the games (vs RH'd starters) then why give up prospects for minimal gains at best?

    Now, if Rios played 3B...

     

    The Rios spilts:

    vs LHPs .843 (.857 in 2012 and .760 career)

    vs RHPs .724 (.848 in 2012 and .785 career)

     
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    Re: Rios clamed off waivers

    Right now, 5 of our top 10 hitters can play OF (Carp and nava can play 1B too).

    2) Carp  .923

    3) Ellsb   .793

    4) Nava  .791

    8) Gomes .783

    10) Vict    .760

     

    OF is not our current weak link.  Waiver deals should be made to stregthen our weakest links only.

     

    Sox4ever

     
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    Re: Rios clamed off waivers

    Micheal Young cleared waivers and can be traded to any team on his short list of approved teams. A list I believe the Red Sox are on. He's not tearing the cover off the ball but is a solid veteran that would slot in nicely at 3B And probably can be had for a bag of balls...

     
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    Micheal Young cleared waivers and can be traded to any team on his short list of approved teams. A list I believe the Red Sox are on. He's not tearing the cover off the ball but is a solid veteran that would slot in nicely at 3B And probably can be had for a bag of balls...



    Young would certainly be better than Holt or Snyder, not to mention being another solid veteran presence in the clubhouse.

    One problem, hes not hitting lefties either!

     
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    Batting 315 against lefties, I hope it's us.

    http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/white-sox-alex-rios-claimed-off-waivers-080813

     



    While we have serious issues vs LHPs, our OF is not our weakest area on that spli. Victorino and Gomes have been tremendous vs lefties from 2010-2013 and very good over their career. They maybe struggling a little bit this year, but I don't see Rios as a big upgrade at the plate vs LHPs over those two. Nava has better splits vs RHPs, so unless you want to bench Victorino for 2/3rds of the games (vs RH'd starters) then why give up prospects for minimal gains at best?

     

    Now, if Rios played 3B...

     

    The Rios spilts:

    vs LHPs .843 (.857 in 2012 and .760 career)

    vs RHPs .724 (.848 in 2012 and .785 career)

     



    Rios is better than Nava, Carp or Gomes against lefties

     

     
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    I think the speculation is Rios was claimed by Texas. I've liked him and I think he would be a better threat batting behind Ortiz than Nap. If the Sox  make that move for a RH bat I think we will  see Nap's name on the waiver wire.

    The concern I have since the end of June Nap's numbers haven't changed much except for his K total. Since the end of June Nap has 5 HR's and 10 RBI--all in July. He is batting .203 in the 18 games he's played since the AS Break.  

    Truthfully I have to place much of the blame on the entire coaching staff and the GM for not moving him down in the order sooner and not insisting that he spend hours reviewing game film of him pre June 1 and not working with him on making some adjustments because obviously the opposing pitching staffs have made adjustments--there is a reason why he is not performing the way he was. Injury--over compensating for Hip Pain-- Somthing in his off field life-who knows.

    He probably has a modest amount left on his contract so waiving him would not be a huge issue. Reynolds is not the answer but he is a RH threat just as Rios or Young would be. The goal, as always, is to have the best 25 on the field.

    Drew has a slghtly higher OPS and BA  than Nap-- hard to believe.

     

     

     
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    I think the speculation is Rios was claimed by Texas. I've liked him and I think he would be a better threat batting behind Ortiz than Nap. If the Sox  make that move for a RH bat I think we will  see Nap's name on the waiver wire.

    The concern I have since the end of June Nap's numbers haven't changed much except for his K total. Since the end of June Nap has 5 HR's and 10 RBI--all in July. He is batting .203 in the 18 games he's played since the AS Break.  

    Truthfully I have to place much of the blame on the entire coaching staff and the GM for not moving him down in the order sooner and not insisting that he spend hours reviewing game film of him pre June 1 and not working with him on making some adjustments because obviously the opposing pitching staffs have made adjustments--there is a reason why he is not performing the way he was. Injury--over compensating for Hip Pain-- Somthing in his off field life-who knows.

    He probably has a modest amount left on his contract so waiving him would not be a huge issue. Reynolds is not the answer but he is a RH threat just as Rios or Young would be. The goal, as always, is to have the best 25 on the field.

    Drew has a slghtly higher OPS and BA  than Nap-- hard to believe.

     



    Rios was expensive but I agree would have probably been better than anyone we have in the field and against lefties.

     
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    Rios is better than Nava, Carp or Gomes against lefties

    1) He won't play instead of Ellsbury.

    2) He won't play instead of Victorino.

    3) Gomes has been great vs LHPs over his career and recent years up to this year.

    Going forward, I don't see Rios as a large enough upgrade over Gomes vs LHPs or Nava vs RHPs to justify the prospects needed to give up to get him.

    Sox4ever

     
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    Re: Rios clamed off waivers

    Rangers Acquire Alex Rios By  Steve Adams [August 9 at 1:03pm CST]

    1:03pm: Hayes retracts the report on Garcia, noting that the Rangers will send the White Sox a player to be named later or cash (Twitter link). Jon Heyman of CBS Sports confirms that it's a PTBNL, and adds that the White Sox are sending $1MM to the Rangers in the deal (on Twitter).

    1:00pm: The Rangers have acquired Alex Rios from the White Sox, according to Dan Hayes of CSN Chicago. The White Sox will receive Leury Garcia in the deal, he adds (Twitter links)

     
     
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    Rios is better than Nava, Carp or Gomes against lefties

    1) He won't play instead of Ellsbury.

    2) He won't play instead of Victorino.

    3) Gomes has been great vs LHPs over his career and recent years up to this year.

    Going forward, I don't see Rios as a large enough upgrade over Gomes vs LHPs or Nava vs RHPs to justify the prospects needed to give up to get him.

    Sox4ever

     



    Hey moon,

    Rios is faster, has a good glove, steals bases and hits better than Gomes all round.  I would say he would have been a "hands down" upgrade over any of our LF's but thats just my opinion.  Gomes is also a platoon player, Rios isn't and I'm sure he could have handled LF.

     

     
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    Re: Rios clamed off waivers

    looks like texas got a deal done for rios, the rumored prospect they sent to the white sox was ranked 20th in their system. Now i am not a huge fan of rios (though he is better than gomes/nava etc), but if thats what the price was then i would have been all for it. 

     
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    looks like texas got a deal done for rios, the rumored prospect they sent to the white sox was ranked 20th in their system. Now i am not a huge fan of rios (though he is better than gomes/nava etc), but if thats what the price was then i would have been all for it. 

     




    I look at the Sox missing the boat on Rios for the following reasons.

     

    #1 Rios is a player who can play every day against any pitcher

    #2 He could probably play LF as good or better and has a decent arm

    #3 He filled our need for a RH bat and has experience in the AL East

    #4 We probably could have had him through 2015

    #5 He steals bases and has decent speed unlike Carp, Gomes, Nap and Nava

    #6 His offense could make up for losing Jacoby, which Bradley won’t do for a year or two

    #7 Cost wise he would have been cheaper than Jacoby next season

    #8 He makes Texas better when Cruz returns

     

    Those are pretty significant factors in return for an unproven prospect, as was Peavy.

     

     
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    Re: Rios clamed off waivers

    Remember, Texas had the right to claim Rios before the Sox did, so the Sox could not get him.  Yes, they could have attempted a trade before the deadline, but so could Texas.  I am guessing the price in prospects was too high, so he didn't go anywhere.  Once the trade deadline passed the price dropped.

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    Re: Rios clamed off waivers

    In response to craze4sox's comment:

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    Rios is better than Nava, Carp or Gomes against lefties

    1) He won't play instead of Ellsbury.

    2) He won't play instead of Victorino.

    3) Gomes has been great vs LHPs over his career and recent years up to this year.

    Going forward, I don't see Rios as a large enough upgrade over Gomes vs LHPs or Nava vs RHPs to justify the prospects needed to give up to get him.

    Sox4ever

     



    Hey moon,

    Rios is faster, has a good glove, steals bases and hits better than Gomes all round.  I would say he would have been a "hands down" upgrade over any of our LF's but thats just my opinion.  Gomes is also a platoon player, Rios isn't and I'm sure he could have handled LF.

     



    I said he was an upgrade, just not enough to be worth trading prospects for.

    I was responding more to the hitting part of the equation. No doubt Rios brings more than just offense to the table when compared to Gomes and Nava, but my response was geared more towards this...

    2011-2013 OPS:

    vs RHPs:

    Rios  .724

    Nava .829

     

    vs LHPs:

    Rios  .795

    Gomes .871

     

    2012-2013 OPS

    vs RHPs:

    Rios  .795

    Nava .829

     

    vs LHPs: 

    Rios:  .852

    Gomes  .874

     

    2013 alone:

    vs RHPs:

    Rios  .724

    Nava  .854

     

    vs LHPs:

    Rios  .843

    Gomes  .729

     

    If picking up Rios was supposed to help our offense, I'm not convinced it would happen.

     
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