Re: R.I.P George
posted at 7/30/2013 12:38 PM EDT
In response to TexasPat's comment:
In response to CubanPete's comment:
It was wrong for the Sox to trade him after the 1971 season, leaving the team without a legit 1B.
It was wrong to reacquire him before the 1977 season, by giving up Cecil Cooper.
Scott epitomized everything that was wrong with team management in the 1970s.
...the King of the Rumba Beat...
Actually, the initial Scott trade wasn't all that bad, because it nearly led to them winning the AL East pennant in "72 (Sox fell one-half of a game short to the Detroit Tigers). The Sox had the right idea, in trading Scottie away to get some badly needed pitching. The October 10, 1971 trade consisted of the Sox sending Scottie, a worthless catcher named Don Pavletich, injury plagued pitcher Jim Lonborg, and prospects who had vastly disappointed, lefthanded pitcher Ken Brett, and supposedly power hitting OF, Joe Lahoud, for some guy named Pat Skrable, Tommy Harper, and starting pitchers Lew Krausse, and Marty Pattin.
Harper had back to back great years with the Sox, in 1972 and 1973. Batting lead-off, he was the catalyst to their offense. Harper scored 92 runs in "72 and "73, stole 25 and 54 bases, respectively, hit for some power, and posted an OBP of .341 and .351 in those years. Krausse was worse than worthless, while Pattin pitched 253 innings, and won 17 games for the Sox in 1972.
In Scottie's five years in Milwaukee, he hit .263, 20 hrs, 88 rbi in "72, .306 24 hrs, 107 rbi in "73, .281, 17 hrs, 82 rbi in "74, .285 36 hrs., 109 rbi in "75, and .274 18 hrs., 77 rbi in "76.
That said, the trade that brought Scottie back to Boston was far worse, as the Sox sent Cecil Cooper for Scottie and Bernie Carbo, in "77. Though Carbo had some big hits in Boston, Scottie was coming toward the end of the line, after initially hitting 33 homers for the Sox in "77. Cecil Cooper went onto an all-star career in Milwaukee.
You have a point about the first trade. I think in both cases, the Sox benefited short term but not long term.
I like playing the what-if game.
What if Scott and Longborg weren't traded. First, Lonborg was good in 1972 (3.23 ERA). In 1974 when the Sox collapsed in September, he had an excellent year in Philly (3.21 ERA, 17 wins). That was the year the Sox had picked up Rick Wise, who was hurt most of the year.
And the Sox would have had Scott for those years, especially in 1975 when he had 36 home runs. Imagine having him at 1B, Yax in LF and Rice DH. Wondered what the W.S. would have been like.