RIP NORMAN SCHWARZKOPF

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    Re: RIP NORMAN SCHWARZKOPF

    Seemed like a real soldier type of guy.  Old school.

     
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    In response to EdithBRTN's comment:
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    Why is the forum 90% ultra-Conservative when the population is only 10%? Makes one wonder if an ultra-Conservative has multiple aliases here. Anyway the thread does not belong in a baseball forum. Softlaw must have about ten aliases here who are postinging concurrently and yet the forum only can see multiple Kims and Pikes. Go figure.

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    pike

     
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    BTW *reported for abuse

     
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    Re: RIP NORMAN SCHWARZKOPF

    OP is about an honorable man, one who just passed on... and you introduced a personal agenda.

     
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    In response to EdithBRTN's comment:
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    Why is the forum 90% ultra-Conservative when the population is only 10%? Makes one wonder if an ultra-Conservative has multiple aliases here. Anyway the thread does not belong in a baseball forum. Softlaw must have about ten aliases here who are posting concurrently and yet the forum only can see multiple Kims and Pikes. Go figure.

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    You really think this forum is 90% Ultra Conservative???? Have you ever gotten out of Mass.?

    Far from Ultra Conservative on this forum

     
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    Re: RIP NORMAN SCHWARZKOPF

    yes rip Norman schwarzkpf and look over  the great George hw bush also Theses truely was great commanders 

     
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    Technology "kicked butt" in Desert Storm, not Schwarzkopf.

    We had better high-tech killing machines than the Iraqis.

     
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    Technology "kicked butt" in Desert Storm, not Schwarzkopf.

    We had better high-tech killing machines than the Iraqis.

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    In 1966 he volunteered for Vietnam and served two tours, first as a U.S. adviser to South Vietnamese paratroops and later as a battalion commander in the U.S. Army's Americal Division. He earned three Silver Stars for valor — including one for saving troops from a minefield — plus a Bronze Star, a Purple Heart and three Distinguished Service Medals.

     
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    he was a contrarian kinda guy.. where have these great men gone? bet he wasnt taking services from a "biographer" as his men suffered out in the fields? he came he saw and kicked buttt in the first gulf war.. as time goes by, i am putting GH bush in my all-time top 10 of leaders.. where have the mods in the now-nutjob GOP gone? he was my kind of republican!

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    My son, a staff sarge, and I held this guy in the highest regard.  He's the kind of stand up guy my son thought the Army was the way to make a difference with his life. 

    RIP indeed ... we could use more like him.

     
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    Ted Kennedy was a great example of an honest and trustworthy public servant working for social justice. He was an authentic leader of integration, both in his intimate personal decisions as well as in teaching his children to integrate when making intimate behavorial choices.

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    Sarcasm right!?  honest   trustworthy. How quickly people forget his personal transgressions as far s the family goes they are a mixed group at best at making good choices.

    To put him in this thread is an insult to the General. RIP Sir

     
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    hIn response to ZILLAGOD's comment:
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    Technology "kicked butt" in Desert Storm, not Schwarzkopf.

    We had better high-tech killing machines than the Iraqis.

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    No doubt we had better stuff, Zilla, but there is no doubt that leadership makes a difference.  We have seen when leadership fails = both in sprt and in real life.  The General was very competrent and made a huge difference in winning that first go round.  As a matter of fact, the blood thirsty leaders of Iraq counted on American leadership failure.  The failed effort  of Pres. Carter to get back the hostages as well as the cruise missile attacks of Pres. Clinton, which were seen as ineffective and cowardly, convinced Hussein and Ben Laden we didn't have the leadership or guts to make decisions that have effective results.   Schwarzkopf lead things effectively.

     
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    A BAC 111 aircraft, which had been reconfigured to carry a sufficient amount of fuel to travel 3,600 miles, left Andrews Air Force Base in the late afternoon of October 19, 1980. The aircraft's destination: Paris, France. The Passengers aboard the aircraft included the command pilot U.S. Navy Captain Gunther Russbacher, Richard Brenneke and Heinrick Rupp, on the flight deck; and in the cabin was William Casey, soon to be the Director of the Central Intelligence Agency; Donald Greggs, soon to be the ambassador to South Korea; and George Bush, the future Vice President and President of the United States and former director of the Central Intelligence Agency. There were also Secret Service agents aboard the aircraft.

    This is the weekend - three weeks before the November 1980 Presidential Election, that Bush has claimed he spent at Andrews Air Force Base.

    Testifying to this flight is Russbacher, the pilot. The Navy pilot is currently at Terminal Island, a federal prison, awaiting an appeal on a charge of misuse and misappropriation of government properties, misuse of government jets, and misuse of government purchase orders for purchase of fuel. He was also a member of the Office of Naval Intelligence and worked with the Central Intelligence Agency. Russbacher's alias is Robert A. Walker. Russbacher now becomes the second crew member of that flight to testify to this clandestine episode that may have changed the politics of this nation and which has been labeled the "October Surprise". Brenneke was upheld by a Federal jury when he testified about the flight. After his testimony he was charged by the Federal Government with perjury, but a Federal jury acquitted him upholding his testimony that the flight actually took place. The trial was held in Portland, Oregon last year.

    Russbacher, in an exclusive interview, states that Bush stayed at the Hotel Crillion in Paris. Russbacher has stated that more than one flight was involved, but that this was the initial flight at which time an agreement was made between Bush and Casey and the Government of Iran to delay the release of American hostages in Iran until after the November 1980 election. Former President Jimmy Carter and several Congressmen are now asking for an investigation into the "October Surprise".

    According to Russbacher statements, Bush stayed only a couple of hours. He attended a meeting at the Hotel Crillion and at the Hotel George V. Russbacher, Brenneke, and Rupp stayed at the Hotel Florida. Bush did not return on the same BAC 111 aircraft or return with some of the people he had flown with to Paris, but instead Russbacher flew him back in the SR71. The aircraft was refueled about 1800 to 1900 nautical miles into the Atlantic by a KCl35.

    The returning flight with Bush landed at McGuire Air Force base at approximately 2 a.m. on October 20. Russbacher states that Bush, while in Paris, met with Hashemi Rafsanjani, the second in command to the Ayatollah and now the president of Iran, and Adnan Khashoggi, a Saudi Arabian businessman who was extremely powerful. Arrangements were apparently made to pay Iran $40 million to delay the release of hostages in order to thwart President Jimmy Carter's re-election bid. The $40 million was the beginning of terms that created the Iran-Contra scandal that is now being reopened by Congress.

    Russbacher is concerned for his life, but feels that the other pilots will now come forward in a new Congressional investigation. He indicates that there is a growing division within the Central Intelligence Agency. ÒThere is no one higher than the CIA, but there are groups within the company (term used by insiders for the CIA) that are very, very strong. And the group or clique that I belonged to, in my opinion, was probably the strongest but there are other factions that are at war with themselves,Ó Russbacher states."You have these groups that are answerable to no one. Well, they are answerable to one man, on top, and he doesn't seem to care how the problems are resolved, just as long as they are taken care of." The man Russbacher is referring to is President Bush.

    On the eve of an announcement of a Congressional investigation into the ÒOctober SurpriseÓ, Russbacher was to have taken a helicopter trip with Navy Intelligence officers, but he did not take the trip. The helicopter carrying several Naval Intelligence officers was reported to have crashed near or on Fort Ord in California. Russbacher, who was willing to tape this interview, states that had he been on the helicopter he would be dead right now. In fact, because of that crash, Russbacher wanted this interview taped for safety reasons.

    He believes that the other aircrew members are in danger, as well, but feels that they are ready to come forward and testify, as did Brenneke last year.

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bL1Xt3T9ZnY

     

     

     
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    I can not believe you posted that on this thread true or not. You are truly a sorry sorry little man.

     
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    Re: RIP NORMAN SCHWARZKOPF

    In response to Softlaw1's comment:
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    Ted Kennedy was a great example of an honest and trustworthy public servant working for social justice. He was an authentic leader of integration, both in his intimate personal decisions as well as in teaching his children to integrate when making intimate behavorial choices.

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    Not only that , but he was a heck of a good swimmer too. 

     
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