In response to Hfxsoxnut's comment:
Here are some quotes from 'jackbu' from his '71 games' thread - his posts were deleted but parts of them are still there quoted by other posters.
All I can say when I read a post like this is wow, there really are some ignorant people out there." That is a stat that someone desperate to hold on to the past would use. Ortiz isn't close to being the player ted was. Sorry if my facts ruffle the girls in the crowd. Anything I post here are facts and not made up. Ortiz missed 71 games this season and there is the chance that this will be the way next season. I am not about to offer a 37 year old a multi year contract, especially when we see other older players breaking down in a hurry. Despite what he did before the injury, those are the numbers he ended with the season. Those are the numbers the owners should base their offer on.
Ortiz will no doubt miss a lot of games next season. He will no doubt go 2 for 20 many times. He will also get his hits and homers but they will be once again off bad teams and bad pitchers.
The sox did not get their 14.5 million worth from Ortiz this past season. You are a pink hat fan if you think they did. Obviously there is a problem in the negotiations, because the talks aren't moving along as fast as first reported.
Here is a quote from 'The4040Club' from this thread.
There is no doubt Ortiz had a good year. But it is fair to bring up that he is having a tough time against good pitching. Possibly the second time around will be a charm. The first time around against detroit starters has him batting 0.00. Not a good stat for a clutch player.
Here is a quote from 'LionSean' from this thread.
Cause he is paid to be an offensive player. That is all he is paid to do and he's choking. 8 players in the lineup have better averages than your hero.
Besides someone has to bring the pink hat Ortiz hero worshippers back to reality. Only a pink hat would be giddy about a home run from a guy whose gone 1 for 15 in a championship series.
4040Club and LionSean showed up at the same time jackbu disappeared.
One of the dumbest and bravest posters here. Dumb because, well you can just read and see. And brave because he hid behind a keyboard calling grown men girls, amongst other things. Thats a coward/troll.
404 already tried to come at me once and I had a feeling it might be that loser. He said to me, "Your the one that lives and dies by stats". This really shows his ignorance because I was the one person here telling people not to trust the defensive stats on Drew, he was a much better defender than that. whoever jackbu is now, hes learned not to mess with me here. The Mods understand who he is too. Not sure on the other name you mentioned.
Everytime Papi went 0-4, jack was talking how Iggy was as good of a hitter as him. Really? And he really thinks Iggy is a .300 hitter? If he knew the game little better (which he doesnt), you certainly wouldnt have to read some of the garbage that comes from him. Hopefully he can keep it in check or he'll be thinking of a new name again.