In response to steven11's comment:
In response to moonslav59's comment:
In response to Bill-806's comment:
Why would you want someone that slow in the 3rd spot ???
BILL, the number 3 slot is about OBP and SLG%, RBIs and clutch hits. Speed is about 149th on the list of wants from the 3 slot.
It never ceases to amaze me how you continually focus on only the negative when it comes to Papi, when there is so much positive going on all around you with this guy.
(BTW, you know that the speedster Pedey hit into more DP last year than Papi, right?)
well we can solve this easily. You are a stat head, so where did Farrell have Ortiz play most of the season, 3rd or 4th? how about the post season, did Ortiz even see the 3rd slot?
Papi has batted 4th almost exclusively over the past few years. The Sox did have Papi bat 3rd and Manny 4th back in the day, but I would have flipped those two, as I felt Manny was the better overall hitter, while Papi had a little more HR power to bat 4th.
I don't pretend to be better than Theo, Ben, Tito or John, but I have my ideas about line-up construction that, that at times, have differed from the Sox choices.
I understand why they batted Pedey 3rd last year, and liked that idea better than him up 2nd, since it allowed Napoli to bat 5th not 4th, thereby lengthening our line-up. I did mention last year, that at least vs righties, I'd have preferred Papi 3rd and Pedey 4th, but I'm not hung up on it, and was not and am not critical of John for what he did.
The way I see it, Papi is our best overall hitter. In an ideal world, he should bat 3rd, but with no clear cut great clean-up hitter, batting Papi 4th is not a big deal to me. Pedey up 3rd makes sense in many ways too, but now that Ellsbury is gone, a good argument could be made for this line-up:
then hope one of the kids can rise and shine enough to thrive in the 5 slot.
I'm also fine with this...
as this "lengthens" the line-up by making the 3-4-5 slots stronger, as well as upgrading the 6-7-8 slots by moving everyone else down a notch