In response to Ice-Cream's comment:

Ouch! lol

In response to J-BAY's comment:

You sound like Kst.

I guess not everyone likes a variety of diverse honest opinions.

I know 4Bs does just as long as they are in line with his.

I wonder how much shelve life my recent posts have.

Should disappear any second.

In response to ThatWasMe's comment:

You make a blanket comment about hypocrites on the board, and I'm the one with the problem?

That's rich...

In response to ThefourBs' comment:

No you're the only one who responded to it.

You know if the shoe fits.

 

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I can deal with schadenfreude but not the hypocrisy on this issue.

 

 

 

Yes, it seems to be a running complain amomg Yankee fans here.

 

It's not going to change. I'm sure you'll see the same on other team sites.

Fans are fans.

 

 

You seem to accept the mantra of defending all things Red Sox like my comments are directed toward you which they were not.

Unless you are a hypocrite.

Yes fans are fans but not all fans are hypocrites.

Although I do agree that there are hypocrites in every fanbase.

 

 

 

 

 

 

and you expect exactly what on a Red Sox forum, TWM?

 

 

What do I expect?

 

That Four Bs seems to have an issue with my posts?

What does that have to do with anyone else here?

I don't see a lot of other folks taking my comments personal.

Look I tend to be candid in my assessments with both my Yankees and with your Red Sox

there is nothing personal about it.

If we can't have honesty we can't have much.

I do notice there are few complaints when I unload on Yankees which I expect.

 

 If you expect it, why complain about it? Yankee fans come here, with the same intent, which I expect, also. If you're looking for complaints about negative comments about the Yankees, you're in the wrong place.  As 4B's said, fans are fans. Goes hand in hand.

 

 

 

And if fans are fans like 4Bs states why complain about my opinions?

 

Your negative opinions , as a Ynakee fan, about Red Sox players? I'm just guessing here ....because $B's is a Red Sox fan, on a  Red Sox forum??

 

 

 

You sound like Kst.

I guess not everyone likes a variety of diverse honest opinions.

I know 4Bs does just as long as they are in line with his.

 

How so, TWM?  Did I say the Yankee fans weren't welcome?   They're your opinions, like everyone else's here. Doesn't make them any more, or less, honest or dishonest.

 

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I can deal with schadenfreude but not the hypocrisy on this issue.

 

 

 

Yes, it seems to be a running complain amomg Yankee fans here.

 

It's not going to change. I'm sure you'll see the same on other team sites.

Fans are fans.

 

 

You seem to accept the mantra of defending all things Red Sox like my comments are directed toward you which they were not.

Unless you are a hypocrite.

Yes fans are fans but not all fans are hypocrites.

Although I do agree that there are hypocrites in every fanbase.

 

 

 

 

 

 

and you expect exactly what on a Red Sox forum, TWM?

 

 

What do I expect?

 

That Four Bs seems to have an issue with my posts?

What does that have to do with anyone else here?

I don't see a lot of other folks taking my comments personal.

Look I tend to be candid in my assessments with both my Yankees and with your Red Sox

there is nothing personal about it.

If we can't have honesty we can't have much.

I do notice there are few complaints when I unload on Yankees which I expect.

 

 If you expect it, why complain about it? Yankee fans come here, with the same intent, which I expect, also. If you're looking for complaints about negative comments about the Yankees, you're in the wrong place.  As 4B's said, fans are fans. Goes hand in hand.

 

 

 

And if fans are fans like 4Bs states why complain about my opinions?

 

Your negative opinions , as a Ynakee fan, about Red Sox players? I'm just guessing here ....because $B's is a Red Sox fan, on a  Red Sox forum??

 

 

 

You sound like Kst.

I guess not everyone likes a variety of diverse honest opinions.

I know 4Bs does just as long as they are in line with his.

 

You make a blanket comment about hypocrites on the board, and I'm the one with the problem?

 

That's rich...

 

 

No you're the only one who responded to it.

You know if the shoe fits.

 

 

 

I was just the first.

Most folks don't like to be redundant.

Or, it could be they're just used to this type of nonsense from you.

In response to ThefourBs's comment:

Oh I'm sure everyone here much prefers your brand of nonsense.

Attempts to mute opinions unlike your own.

 

"Most folks don't like to be redundant."

Funniest thing I've read today.

Truth is most folks have thicker skin than you.

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I can deal with schadenfreude but not the hypocrisy on this issue.

 

 

 

Yes, it seems to be a running complain amomg Yankee fans here.

 

It's not going to change. I'm sure you'll see the same on other team sites.

Fans are fans.

 

 

You seem to accept the mantra of defending all things Red Sox like my comments are directed toward you which they were not.

Unless you are a hypocrite.

Yes fans are fans but not all fans are hypocrites.

Although I do agree that there are hypocrites in every fanbase.

 

 

 

 

 

 

and you expect exactly what on a Red Sox forum, TWM?

 

 

What do I expect?

 

That Four Bs seems to have an issue with my posts?

What does that have to do with anyone else here?

I don't see a lot of other folks taking my comments personal.

Look I tend to be candid in my assessments with both my Yankees and with your Red Sox

there is nothing personal about it.

If we can't have honesty we can't have much.

I do notice there are few complaints when I unload on Yankees which I expect.

 

 If you expect it, why complain about it? Yankee fans come here, with the same intent, which I expect, also. If you're looking for complaints about negative comments about the Yankees, you're in the wrong place.  As 4B's said, fans are fans. Goes hand in hand.

 

 

 

And if fans are fans like 4Bs states why complain about my opinions?

 

Your negative opinions , as a Ynakee fan, about Red Sox players? I'm just guessing here ....because $B's is a Red Sox fan, on a  Red Sox forum??

 

 

 

You sound like Kst.

I guess not everyone likes a variety of diverse honest opinions.

I know 4Bs does just as long as they are in line with his.

 

How so, TWM?  Did I say the Yankee fans weren't welcome?   They're your opinions, like everyone else's here. Doesn't make them any more, or less, honest or dishonest.

 

 

 

We've played the game since 2005 when HGH was finally banned without testing for it.

Without random blood testing for all I know all the players on both the Red Sox and the Yankee world championship teams were on the juice.

My point was and still is that there are quite a few people who just don't understand there was no testing for illegal HGH use for the last 7 seasons.

Which team has had the most cheats I don't have a clue. But I'm sure every team had some.

And I would guess the more successful teams more than others.

The 2003 test which 104 players failed including Arod, Manny and Papi was just for PEDS not HGHs.

 

 

In response to mrmojo1120's comment:

 

What a great excuse by Braun!!   Silly me, I would want my lawyer handling things like finding expert witnesses.  As it would make more sense for the lawyer to find a guy who knew what to say in front of a jury (or panel, in this case).  And I would expect my lawyer to  handle the initial fees and then to reimburse him (presumably with a surcharge in there, too). 

 

But Braun's best idea to disasscoiate himself from a PED supplier was to consult with another PED supplier?   And to leave his name in their finacial records?  Way to seperate yourself from the PED Community, Ryan!!

 

That's like hiring a cat burglar to install your home security system.  Assuming, of course, I believed a word he said about it... 

 

In response to notin's comment:

Good analogy.

In response to nhsteven's comment:

In the end while many are trying to discredit Bosch as some glory seeker, who's clinics are in strip malls...Braun's statements only serve to bolster the guys credibility.

 

In response to pinstripezac35's comment:

Sorry Zac but take Schilling comments w/ a grain of salt these days. He's broke and will do anything to get his name in the public's eye. Don't think he's not looking for another job as commentator or analyst. Can't think the Rhode Island mess has made getting work easy for him.

If it wasn't anyone in uniform, or anyone in baseball ops. Then its either the janitor, a food service employee, or maybe medical staff? that suggested it. Not sure I believe anything that comes out of his mouth, just wants to bring attention to himself. If someone from medical staff said it than give us a name. Whay try to protect this person?

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In response to garyhow's comment:

 

Ryan Braun now claiming [or his excuse] is his name is on list because he sought out advice for his defense from his previous almost suspension. But records said he owed almost $30,000. Advice is getting awful expensive these days? Anyone else find it ironic how many Yankee names keep popping up on these lists, Mitchell Report was full of Yankees past and present. Now this latest list includes Arod[again] / Cervelli / Melky / Montero. Call me a Yankee hater, but could team be some how behind this. Why not point guys in a direction that might improve their players production [team wins] players perform better leads to better contracts [player wins], would like to hear what anyone else thinks? or am I just a Red Sox fan? I know RS have had there share as well, but Yanks names more abundant than anyone else, why?

 

Everyone did it. Our beloved Red Sox would not have won a World Series without PEDs. Manny and Papi, and you can go on with unproven names.

 

 

I appreciate the stand up  post ADG

the timing of garys question is ironic

considering schillings latest comments

 

 

 

Sorry Zac but take Schilling comments w/ a grain of salt these days. He's broke and will do anything to get his name in the public's eye. Don't think he's not looking for another job as commentator or analyst. Can't think the Rhode Island mess has made getting work easy for him.

If it wasn't anyone in uniform, or anyone in baseball ops. Then its either the janitor, a food service employee, or maybe medical staff? that suggested it. Not sure I believe anything that comes out of his mouth, just wants to bring attention to himself. If someone from medical staff said it than give us a name. Whay try to protect this person?

 

 

Just curious has Schilling in the past ever made public statements that were found to be not true?

I know during the Govt, hearings he participated in he was the most honest and candid player participant before during and after the hearings.

I know everyone was aghast at Canseco's outspoken revelations which now have turned out to pretty much all true.

Let's remember we have played the game since 2005 without any testing for the use of HGH.

I tend to believe the amount of folks who have cheated is a real big number.

I know Schilling has a history of being outspoken but can't recall if he has ever been accused of being a liar.

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In response to garyhow's comment:

greetings gary

I just called it ironic because

I didn't think you saw his comments when you posted

 but take Schilling comments w/ a grain of salt these days. He's broke and will do anything to get his name in the public's eye. Don't think he's not looking for another job as commentator or analyst. Can't think the Rhode Island mess has made getting work easy for him.


If it wasn't anyone in uniform, or anyone in baseball ops. Then its either the janitor, a food service employee, or maybe medical staff? that suggested it. Not sure I believe anything that comes out of his mouth, just wants to bring attention to himself. If someone from medical staff said it than give us a name. Why try to protect this person?

putting aside curts motives

according to PA it's true

not sure why he doesn't give up a name

but curt has never been willing to go all in

on the subject

 

 

MLB investigated Schilling report in 2008

Former Red Sox pitcher Curt Schilling was standing in the clubhouse at Fenway Park early in the 2008 season when a member of the team’s medical staff suggested he try human growth hormone to help overcome a shoulder injury.

Schilling reported the incident to Theo Epstein, then the team’s general manager. Epstein was required to inform Major League Baseball and an investigation subsequently took place.

“Our office was notified. We take any report like this seriously and there was an investigation," MLB vice president Pat Courtney said.

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In response to garyhow's comment:

 

Ryan Braun now claiming [or his excuse] is his name is on list because he sought out advice for his defense from his previous almost suspension. But records said he owed almost $30,000. Advice is getting awful expensive these days? Anyone else find it ironic how many Yankee names keep popping up on these lists, Mitchell Report was full of Yankees past and present. Now this latest list includes Arod[again] / Cervelli / Melky / Montero. Call me a Yankee hater, but could team be some how behind this. Why not point guys in a direction that might improve their players production [team wins] players perform better leads to better contracts [player wins], would like to hear what anyone else thinks? or am I just a Red Sox fan? I know RS have had there share as well, but Yanks names more abundant than anyone else, why?

 

Everyone did it. Our beloved Red Sox would not have won a World Series without PEDs. Manny and Papi, and you can go on with unproven names.

 

 

I appreciate the stand up  post ADG

the timing of garys question is ironic

considering schillings latest comments

 

 

 

Sorry Zac but take Schilling comments w/ a grain of salt these days. He's broke and will do anything to get his name in the public's eye. Don't think he's not looking for another job as commentator or analyst. Can't think the Rhode Island mess has made getting work easy for him.

If it wasn't anyone in uniform, or anyone in baseball ops. Then its either the janitor, a food service employee, or maybe medical staff? that suggested it. Not sure I believe anything that comes out of his mouth, just wants to bring attention to himself. If someone from medical staff said it than give us a name. Whay try to protect this person?

 

You  have an excuse for everything, don't you? I can only imagine your tone if a Yankee said this. 

Regardless, I think Schilling should have kept his mouth shut.

 

In response to Beantowne's comment:

Yes